Other Sports Andre Dawson elected to MLB HoF...Mark McGwire not

Deberg_1990 · 01-06-2010, 02:24 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100106/...o_hall_of_fame

NEW YORK – Andre Dawson was elected to the Hall of Fame on Wednesday in his ninth try, while Bert Blyleven and Roberto Alomar fell just short of earning baseball's highest honor.

Dawson received 420 of 539 votes in voting announced by the Baseball Writers' Association of America, 15 more than the 75 percent necessary to gain election. The eight-time All-Star outfielder had fallen 44 votes short last year.

"It was well worth the wait. I can't really describe the elation," Dawson said during a telephone conference call. "If you're a Hall of Famer, eventually you're going to get in, no matter how long it takes."

Blyleven had 400 votes (74.2 percent), up from 338 last year, and the pitcher will likely get in because he has two more tries on the BBWAA ballot. The highest percentage for a player who wasn't elected in a later year was 63.4 by Gil Hodges in 1983, his final time on the ballot.

"Hopefully, next year will be my time," Blyleven said in an interview on MLB Network.

Alomar received 397 votes (73.7 percent) in the second baseman's first appearance and was followed by pitcher Jack Morris with 282 (52.3 percent), a big rise from his 237 last year.

"I feel disappointed, but next year hopefully I make it in," Alomar said at his home in New York. "At least I was close."

Cincinnati shortstop Barry Larkin, also making his first appearance, was on 278 ballots (51.6 percent), followed by reliever Lee Smith at 255 (47.3 percent) and slugger Edgar Martinez at 195 (36.2 percent). Martinez, on the ballot for the first time, is viewed as an early test of how voters will receive players who were primarily designated hitters.

Mark McGwire received 128 votes (23.7 percent), 10 more than last year and matching the total from his first two times on the ballot. Eighth on the career list with 583 homers, he has been stigmatized since evading questions from Congress in 2005 about steroids use.

McGwire was hired in October as St. Louis Cardinals hitting coach and is expected to hold an introductory news conference at some point.

Dawson will be inducted July 25 at Cooperstown along with manager Whitey Herzog and umpire Doug Harvey, elected last month by the Veterans Committee.

Dawson hit 438 homers in a career that spanned from 1976-96. Nicknamed "The Hawk," he was voted NL Rookie of the Year in 1977 with Montreal and NL Most Valuable Player in 1987 with the Chicago Cubs, the first member of a last-place team to earn the honor.

A victim of owners' conspiracy against free agents after he left the Expos, Dawson signed a blank contract with the Cubs during spring training. Then-general manager Dallas Green filled in the dollar amount of $500,000, making Dawson the second-lowest paid regular on the team.

Dawson stayed with the Cubs through 1992, then spent two seasons apiece with Boston and Florida. He had a .279 career average with 1,591 RBIs and 314 steals, playing through 12 knee operations.

He is one of only three players with at least 400 home runs and 300 stolen bases, joining Barry Bonds and Willie Mays.

The close calls for Blyleven and Alomar marked the first time in BBWAA balloting that two players fell fewer than 10 votes short in one year.

Alomar received the most votes of any first-year candidate who wasn't elected.

Next year's ballot also will include newcomers Rafael Palmeiro, Juan Gonzalez, Larry Walker, Jeff Bagwell, John Franco and Kevin Brown.

Demonpenz · 01-06-2010, 02:25 PM

the hawk was hitting it into the blue everytime in RBI baseball. AND THE FANS BLINK

Mr. Laz · 01-06-2010, 02:28 PM

McGwire will make it eventually ... but it will be awhile.

Deberg_1990 · 01-06-2010, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

McGwire will make it eventually ... but it will be awhile.

If he held a presser and said: "Yes i did it, and im sorry" he would get in the next year.

RJ · 01-06-2010, 02:30 PM

Glad for Dawson, but Alomar was the best player on the ballot.

DJ's left nut · 01-06-2010, 02:32 PM

And Bert Blyeleven gets screwed again.

The good news about Dawson getting in is that it's at least 1 more player with a worse resume than Jim Edmonds.

No way Dawson deserved to get in over Alomar....no way he really deserved to get in period with a .326 lifetime OBP and an overrated defensive reputation for a corner OFer.

Redrum_69 · 01-06-2010, 02:33 PM

no one likes a roid junkie

Deberg_1990 · 01-06-2010, 02:34 PM

I Agree...

I think Dawson belongs in the Hall of "Really Good" But not "of Fame"

Mr. Laz · 01-06-2010, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

If he held a presser and said: "Yes i did it, and im sorry" he would get in the next year.

no, he wouldn't

everyone would just shout "liar,liar another cheater" and then start talking about how it would of be different if he had come clean in the beginning. Which of course isn't true either.

Jerm · 01-06-2010, 02:38 PM

Since Alomar is a douche, I'm not really that torn up about him not getting in yet...don't know what it's going to take for Blyleven to get in, that's an absolute joke.

Kinda surprised Jack Morris didn't get more votes.

wild1 · 01-06-2010, 02:40 PM

Blyleven belongs there more than Dawson does.

RJ · 01-06-2010, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And Bert Blyeleven gets screwed again.

The good news about Dawson getting in is that it's at least 1 more player with a worse resume than Jim Edmonds.

No way Dawson deserved to get in over Alomar....no way he really deserved to get in period with a .326 lifetime OBP and an overrated defensive reputation for a corner OFer.

Are you a big Edmonds fan? Just curious, cause I never thought of him as HOF worthy. I might be off base though, since I never really saw him play that much other than his amazing defensive highlights on Sportscenter.

Reerun_KC · 01-06-2010, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrum_69

no one likes a roid junkie

I only watch baseball for the roid junkie's.. Without 600ft monster splashed homeruns, Baseball is a dying aids forest...

rageeumr · 01-06-2010, 03:00 PM

I kind of thought Alomar would be a first-ballot guy.

Jerm · 01-06-2010, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rageeumr

I kind of thought Alomar would be a first-ballot guy.

He's a spitter, not a swallower.

01-06-2010, 02:24 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $224454	Andre Dawson elected to MLB HoF...Mark McGwire not http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100106/...o_hall_of_fame NEW YORK – Andre Dawson was elected to the Hall of Fame on Wednesday in his ninth try, while Bert Blyleven and Roberto Alomar fell just short of earning baseball's highest honor. Dawson received 420 of 539 votes in voting announced by the Baseball Writers' Association of America, 15 more than the 75 percent necessary to gain election. The eight-time All-Star outfielder had fallen 44 votes short last year. "It was well worth the wait. I can't really describe the elation," Dawson said during a telephone conference call. "If you're a Hall of Famer, eventually you're going to get in, no matter how long it takes." Blyleven had 400 votes (74.2 percent), up from 338 last year, and the pitcher will likely get in because he has two more tries on the BBWAA ballot. The highest percentage for a player who wasn't elected in a later year was 63.4 by Gil Hodges in 1983, his final time on the ballot. "Hopefully, next year will be my time," Blyleven said in an interview on MLB Network. Alomar received 397 votes (73.7 percent) in the second baseman's first appearance and was followed by pitcher Jack Morris with 282 (52.3 percent), a big rise from his 237 last year. "I feel disappointed, but next year hopefully I make it in," Alomar said at his home in New York. "At least I was close." Cincinnati shortstop Barry Larkin, also making his first appearance, was on 278 ballots (51.6 percent), followed by reliever Lee Smith at 255 (47.3 percent) and slugger Edgar Martinez at 195 (36.2 percent). Martinez, on the ballot for the first time, is viewed as an early test of how voters will receive players who were primarily designated hitters. Mark McGwire received 128 votes (23.7 percent), 10 more than last year and matching the total from his first two times on the ballot. Eighth on the career list with 583 homers, he has been stigmatized since evading questions from Congress in 2005 about steroids use. McGwire was hired in October as St. Louis Cardinals hitting coach and is expected to hold an introductory news conference at some point. Dawson will be inducted July 25 at Cooperstown along with manager Whitey Herzog and umpire Doug Harvey, elected last month by the Veterans Committee. Dawson hit 438 homers in a career that spanned from 1976-96. Nicknamed "The Hawk," he was voted NL Rookie of the Year in 1977 with Montreal and NL Most Valuable Player in 1987 with the Chicago Cubs, the first member of a last-place team to earn the honor. A victim of owners' conspiracy against free agents after he left the Expos, Dawson signed a blank contract with the Cubs during spring training. Then-general manager Dallas Green filled in the dollar amount of $500,000, making Dawson the second-lowest paid regular on the team. Dawson stayed with the Cubs through 1992, then spent two seasons apiece with Boston and Florida. He had a .279 career average with 1,591 RBIs and 314 steals, playing through 12 knee operations. He is one of only three players with at least 400 home runs and 300 stolen bases, joining Barry Bonds and Willie Mays. The close calls for Blyleven and Alomar marked the first time in BBWAA balloting that two players fell fewer than 10 votes short in one year. Alomar received the most votes of any first-year candidate who wasn't elected. Next year's ballot also will include newcomers Rafael Palmeiro, Juan Gonzalez, Larry Walker, Jeff Bagwell, John Franco and Kevin Brown.
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