Tim Tebow is John Elway

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You see, there are so many similarities between these 2 quarterbacks.

1. Both were extremely hyped college quarterbacks.
2. They both like to run around the field.
3. They both have lots of heart.
4. They both have championship rings.

and the real kicker:

5. John Elway, in his second season, lost to the Steelers in the wildcard playoff game at home.
6. Tim Tebow, in his second season, lost to the Steelers in the wildcard playoff game at home.

It's pretty eery

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Only difference is that Elway actually was a good QB.

[ROYC75]

If that peckerhead turns into an Elway we are going to track you down.

Now with that said, Tebow an Elway ? That will take a miracle of major proportions.

Tebow as a passing QB is horrible right now and will probably be forever.

[chiefs2012]

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You are so stupid.

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[Rain Man]

They're both bad quarterbacks.

They both get more credit than they deserve for their team's wins.

[Backwards Masking]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

They're both bad quarterbacks.

They both get more credit than they deserve for their team's wins.

people get so pissed when you say it but it's SO true :

Horseface never won shit until The Rat demoted him to the Number Two Option and made Terrell Davis the Number One Option.

deal with it Cheating Donkey homers

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

people get so pissed when you say it but it's SO true :

Horseface never won shit until The Rat demoted him to the Number Two Option and made Terrell Davis the Number One Option.

deal with it Cheating Donkey homers

For the first ten years of the guy's career - TEN YEARS - he only had one year with a QB rating over 80, and it was 83.4. His average season was 3,021 yards with 16 TDs and 16 Ints.

How happy would we be if we drafted a QB with the #1 pick and he had those statistics for a full decade?

As a comparison, Elway's career rating is 79.9, with 3021 yards, 16 TDs and 16 Ints. During his 11 years in Philly, Donovan McNabb's rating was 85.6. He averaged 3,390 yards, 20 TDs, and 9 Ints. Which guy would you rather have?

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

For the first ten years of the guy's career - TEN YEARS - he only had one year with a QB rating over 80, and it was 83.4. His average season was 3,021 yards with 16 TDs and 16 Ints.

How happy would we be if we drafted a QB with the #1 pick and he had those statistics for a full decade?

As a comparison, Elway's career rating is 79.9, with 3021 yards, 16 TDs and 16 Ints. During his 11 years in Philly, Donovan McNabb's rating was 85.6. He averaged 3,390 yards, 20 TDs, and 9 Ints. Which guy would you rather have?

I'm not defending Denver's favorite equine, but, out of curiosity, how did Elway's numbers measure up against other quarterbacks of the era?

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

For the first ten years of the guy's career - TEN YEARS - he only had one year with a QB rating over 80, and it was 83.4. His average season was 3,021 yards with 16 TDs and 16 Ints.

How happy would we be if we drafted a QB with the #1 pick and he had those statistics for a full decade?

As a comparison, Elway's career rating is 79.9, with 3021 yards, 16 TDs and 16 Ints. During his 11 years in Philly, Donovan McNabb's rating was 85.6. He averaged 3,390 yards, 20 TDs, and 9 Ints. Which guy would you rather have?

His fans were hung up on how he kept putting the offense on his back and carrying his overachieving teams to the superbowl.

I guess they, for some reason, probably thought that was better than pretty statistics.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I'm not defending Denver's favorite equine, however, out of curiosity, how did Elway's statistics measure up against other quarterbacks of the era?

Let's look at the first ten years of other QBs of his era who had long careers.

Average season (and median on the QB rating):

Elway: 3,021 yards, 15.8 TDs, 15.8 Ints, QB Rating 74.6 (Best Year: 83.4)

Dan Marino: 3,950 yards, 29.0 TDs, 16.5 Ints, QB Rating 85.5 (Best Year: 108.9)

Jim Kelly: 3,266 yards, 22.3 TDs, 15.6 Ints, QB Rating 83.6 (Best Year: 101.2)

Neil Lomax (8 year career): 2,846 yards, 17.0 TDs, 11.3 Ints, QB Rating 83.1 (Best Year 92.5)

Jim Everett: 3,158 yards, 19.0 TDs, 15.5 Ints, QB Rating 79.8 (Best Year 90.6)

Randall Cunningham: 2,227 yards, 14.7 TDs, 10 Ints, QB Rating 76.6 (Best Year 91.6) (He didn't start as a rookie and missed nearly two other complete seasons, presumably due to injury.) In his seven full seasons (one of which he started only five games), he averaged 2,980 yards, 20.1 TDs, 12.4 Ints, and a QB Rating of 77.6.

Boomer Esiason: 2,909 yards, 19.0 TDs, 14.0 Ints, QB Rating 80.8 (Best Year 97.4)

Phil Simms: 2,574 yards, 15.8 TDs, 13.7 Ints, QB Rating 74.6 (Best Year 90.0) Missed two full seasons due to injury. In the eight full seasons, he averaged 2,881 yards, 17.8 TDs, 15.3 Ints, QB Rating 76.4.

So Elway wasn't as good as Neil Lomax or Jim Everett, using those two points of comparison. He was almost as good as Phil Simms, and wasn't in the same league as guys like Boomer Esiason, Randall Cunningham (injuries aside), Jim Kelly, or Dan Marino.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Let's look at the first ten years of other QBs of his era who had long careers.

Average season (and median on the QB rating):

Elway: 3,021 yards, 15.8 TDs, 15.8 Ints, QB Rating 74.6 (Best Year: 83.4)

Dan Marino: 3,950 yards, 29.0 TDs, 16.5 Ints, QB Rating 85.5 (Best Year: 108.9)

Jim Kelly: 3,266 yards, 22.3 TDs, 15.6 Ints, QB Rating 83.6 (Best Year: 101.2)

Neil Lomax (8 year career): 2,846 yards, 17.0 TDs, 11.3 Ints, QB Rating 83.1 (Best Year 92.5)

Jim Everett: 3,158 yards, 19.0 TDs, 15.5 Ints, QB Rating 79.8 (Best Year 90.6)

Randall Cunningham: 2,227 yards, 14.7 TDs, 10 Ints, QB Rating 76.6 (Best Year 91.6) (He didn't start as a rookie and missed nearly two other complete seasons, presumably due to injury.) In his seven full seasons (one of which he started only five games), he averaged 2,980 yards, 20.1 TDs, 12.4 Ints, and a QB Rating of 77.6.

Boomer Esiason: 2,909 yards, 19.0 TDs, 14.0 Ints, QB Rating 80.8 (Best Year 97.4)

Phil Simms: 2,574 yards, 15.8 TDs, 13.7 Ints, QB Rating 74.6 (Best Year 90.0) Missed two full seasons due to injury. In the eight full seasons, he averaged 2,881 yards, 17.8 TDs, 15.3 Ints, QB Rating 76.4.

So Elway wasn't as good as Neil Lomax or Jim Everett, using those two points of comparison. He was almost as good as Phil Simms, and wasn't in the same league as guys like Boomer Esiason, Randall Cunningham (injuries aside), Jim Kelly, or Dan Marino.

Those are some beautiful stats. I like this one though:

All 7 of the QBs you listed combined: 1 SB win
Elway: 2 SB wins

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Those are some beautiful stats. I like this one though:

All 7 of the QBs you listed combined: 1 SB win
Elway: 2 SB wins

Rain Man's Elway hate fetish runs deep. Stats only matter if they make Elway look bad.