should Shaunard Harts be our starting FS next year?

bricks · 12-23-2004, 01:57 PM

Yes

No

Gaz · 12-23-2004, 01:58 PM

Yes

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Gaz
Likes the Wesley/Harts tandem.

RedandGold · 12-23-2004, 01:59 PM

Should he be? Probably not.

Will he be? Yes.

Considering that I expect us to address CB, LB, and WR before anything else, I doubt that we would be drafting anyone that would be starting material.

Look for Harts and Wesley to be our starters in 2005, with Pile and a late round pick as backups.

**Rain Man** · 12-23-2004, 02:02 PM

There's a role for Woods on the team, but I have to say that I really like Harts. There are some players that just have a natural talent for making plays, and Harts seems to inordinately cause turnovers. I really want a big-play safety, and Woods just doesn't make big plays.

Thig Lyfe · 12-23-2004, 02:05 PM

Covert Woods to CB.

LiL stumppy · 12-23-2004, 02:06 PM

Ys he should be but he won't be.If I am correct Woods is our FS isn't he?Didn't we just sign a big contract with him?

**Iowanian** · 12-23-2004, 02:13 PM

It depends "which" woods shows up at TC.

As to moving Woods to CB..........drop the hose to that Huka arrowhead........He's too slow this year to play safety, and has been a liability in coverage....you might as well put Beisel at CB.

penchief · 12-23-2004, 02:43 PM

Actually, I was thinking of Harts at strong safety. I know that is the exact opposite of how it is now but Harts has played very well at strong safety when he's replaced Wesley. Much of the time he has played better than Wesley.

Pile has also played well. I like Pile. He was a free safety in college, I think. I had read in multiple draft reviews that leadership and smarts were his strengths. I'm not sure but I think I had read that he called defensive plays, as well. Anyway, the gist was that he was considered the defensive leader of his team. If that is true, maybe we should try him at free-safety. Wouldn't it be nice if he turned out to be a defensive leader in the mold of Deron Cherry? We need a lot of leaders on defense. We need a lot of guys with smarts and heart.

I think we are ok at safety. IMO, we should acquire a top-notch corner and a third corner. I think we should give Bartee and Battle a shot at safety next year. If they look like crap in pre-season, can em'.

That way, we can go into next year with Woods, Wesley, Harts, Pile, Bartee the "athelete," and Battle the "athelete" competing at safety.

If Bartee and Battle do well enough to stay on the squad, they are probably good enough atheletes to make a difference on special teams, IMO.

Chiefnj · 12-23-2004, 02:45 PM

IMO, Harts is much better in run support than he is in pass defensing, so I agree with penchief that Harts would probably make a better SS.

I'd like a ball hawk FS who isn't afraid to hit.

Spicy McHaggis · 12-23-2004, 02:47 PM

Our tandem should be Harts and Wesley unless Woods shows some of the player that he used to be. Pile is a nice back up but I haven't been convinced he's a starter yet.

htismaqe · 12-23-2004, 02:52 PM

As a backup...we need a REAL FS, and not Jerome Woods, either...

**Iowanian** · 12-23-2004, 02:54 PM

I think they should try Bartee at Safety in TC, and if it doesn't work out.....cut him. battle needs to have the same offer.

2 new CBs(1 vet, 1 rookie) would suit me just fine.

**Rain Man** · 12-23-2004, 04:17 PM

Actually, I would agree that Harts at FS and Wesley at SS might be better than the other way around.

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12-23-2004, 01:58 PM	#2
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	I think so... Yes xoxo~ Gaz Likes the Wesley/Harts tandem.
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12-23-2004, 01:59 PM	#3
RedandGold Born with Bad Habits Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Right Here Casino cash: $-790000	Should he be? Probably not. Will he be? Yes. Considering that I expect us to address CB, LB, and WR before anything else, I doubt that we would be drafting anyone that would be starting material. Look for Harts and Wesley to be our starters in 2005, with Pile and a late round pick as backups.
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12-23-2004, 02:02 PM	#4
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-472449 VARSITY	There's a role for Woods on the team, but I have to say that I really like Harts. There are some players that just have a natural talent for making plays, and Harts seems to inordinately cause turnovers. I really want a big-play safety, and Woods just doesn't make big plays. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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LiL stumppy 62-21 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Casino cash: $9913684	Ys he should be but he won't be.If I am correct Woods is our FS isn't he?Didn't we just sign a big contract with him? __________________ I'm just cakn partna
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12-23-2004, 02:13 PM	#7
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1808454	It depends "which" woods shows up at TC. As to moving Woods to CB..........drop the hose to that Huka arrowhead........He's too slow this year to play safety, and has been a liability in coverage....you might as well put Beisel at CB.
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12-23-2004, 02:43 PM	#8
penchief MVP Join Date: Feb 2003 Casino cash: $6085286	Actually, I was thinking of Harts at strong safety. I know that is the exact opposite of how it is now but Harts has played very well at strong safety when he's replaced Wesley. Much of the time he has played better than Wesley. Pile has also played well. I like Pile. He was a free safety in college, I think. I had read in multiple draft reviews that leadership and smarts were his strengths. I'm not sure but I think I had read that he called defensive plays, as well. Anyway, the gist was that he was considered the defensive leader of his team. If that is true, maybe we should try him at free-safety. Wouldn't it be nice if he turned out to be a defensive leader in the mold of Deron Cherry? We need a lot of leaders on defense. We need a lot of guys with smarts and heart. I think we are ok at safety. IMO, we should acquire a top-notch corner and a third corner. I think we should give Bartee and Battle a shot at safety next year. If they look like crap in pre-season, can em'. That way, we can go into next year with Woods, Wesley, Harts, Pile, Bartee the "athelete," and Battle the "athelete" competing at safety. If Bartee and Battle do well enough to stay on the squad, they are probably good enough atheletes to make a difference on special teams, IMO.
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12-23-2004, 02:45 PM	#9
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	IMO, Harts is much better in run support than he is in pass defensing, so I agree with penchief that Harts would probably make a better SS. I'd like a ball hawk FS who isn't afraid to hit.
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12-23-2004, 02:47 PM	#10
Spicy McHaggis Keep 'er Movin' Join Date: Sep 2004 Casino cash: $9905359	Our tandem should be Harts and Wesley unless Woods shows some of the player that he used to be. Pile is a nice back up but I haven't been convinced he's a starter yet. __________________ “We want players who are big, strong, smart, fast, tough and disciplined,” Pioli said, finally bringing an end to the era of Chiefs executives who searched desperately for players who are small, weak, stupid, slow, fragile and unruly.
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12-23-2004, 02:52 PM	#11
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	As a backup...we need a REAL FS, and not Jerome Woods, either...
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12-23-2004, 02:54 PM	#12
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1808454	I think they should try Bartee at Safety in TC, and if it doesn't work out.....cut him. battle needs to have the same offer. 2 new CBs(1 vet, 1 rookie) would suit me just fine.
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12-23-2004, 04:17 PM	#13
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-472449 VARSITY	Actually, I would agree that Harts at FS and Wesley at SS might be better than the other way around. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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