Sampson in the lead for the RT position.

tyton75 · 06-22-2005, 08:40 AM

Vermeil was on 810 this morning talking about some stuff most of us already know..

Key Fox is ready to be a starter (whether he will be or not is yet to be determined)

Fredex is a talented reciever and good in traffic (per Vermeil)

Going to bring in some CB vets to try to shore things up.. Vermeil sounds like he isnt' comfortable with the current situation at CB

Waters is out of shape but Vermeil trusts that he will get back in shape.

But the eye opener to me was that he said Sampson would probably be the opening day RT... I was under the impression that it was Blacks job to lose.. but I guess Sampson is really looking good.

jspchief · 06-22-2005, 08:46 AM

This LB thing is a clusterfuck.
So if Fox is ready to start, and Bell is the other OLB, that puts DJ, Barber, and Fujita on the bench. That's 5 good to solid LBs.

Meanwhile, we have a mediocre Mitchell in the middle, with Scatlon, Boomer, and Maz on the bench.

Seems like we have a surplus of good OLBs, and still don't have anyone solid in the middle. I hope Gun puts Bell at MLB.

HC_Chief · 06-22-2005, 08:51 AM

What jsp said.

**The Bad Guy** · 06-22-2005, 08:52 AM

The Chiefs don't need Shawn Barber anymore. Reach an injury settlement with him and send him on his way.

Bell, Mitchell, Johnson, Fox, Fujita, Boomer will likely be the 6 LBs they carry. Where is their room for Barber?

I'm also shocked about Sampson, but he did look real good in TC last year.

KCTitus · 06-22-2005, 08:52 AM

Sampson is another Syracuse alum, I believe...we may need a film breakdown from the Roy's before we know what to think on this.

JimNasium · 06-22-2005, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

This LB thing is a clusterfuck.
So if Fox is ready to start, and Bell is the other OLB, that puts DJ, Barber, and Fujita on the bench. That's 5 good to solid LBs.

Meanwhile, we have a mediocre Mitchell in the middle, with Scatlon, Boomer, and Maz on the bench.

Seems like we have a surplus of good OLBs, and still don't have anyone solid in the middle. I hope Gun puts Bell at MLB.

Bell in the middle?

tyton75 · 06-22-2005, 08:55 AM

I dont' know if I like having Bell in the middle either.. although I think he would be great... i think he would be even better playing his natural position

same idea of moving Bartee to CB.. bad idea!

**RealSNR** · 06-22-2005, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus

Sampson is another Syracuse alum, I believe...we may need a film breakdown from the Roy's before we know what to think on this.

I never saw either of them pimping Eric "The Road Grader" Downing

milkman · 06-22-2005, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JimNasium

Bell in the middle?

Gun said he was going to have a "floating" depth chart in TC, but I really think it would just about take an act of God to get him to move Bell.

Just my read on the situation.

**Saulbadguy** · 06-22-2005, 08:57 AM

You realize this will lead to the dreaded "What about a 3-4 defense?" discussion.

TRing · 06-22-2005, 08:58 AM

At first i also thought that Bell needed to be in the middle. Now if he was able to learn that position quick that would be the best case scenerio because we could put our top 3 linebackers on the field, which i feel we are not doing by putting kawika in the middle (though I've heard good things, I'm not convinced)

JimNasium · 06-22-2005, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

You realize this will lead to the dreaded "What about a 3-4 defense?" discussion.

Falcon?

**Saulbadguy** · 06-22-2005, 08:59 AM

Cut it out, Jim.

**RealSNR** · 06-22-2005, 09:00 AM

So where does this leave Scanlon? "He will have a spot on this football team"

jspchief · 06-22-2005, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimNasium

Bell in the middle?

Yes. Bell in the middle.

The only reason to put him on the outside is his pass rushing skills. But rushing the passer is only a small fraction of an OLB's duties. Besides that, I think rushing oLBs is ineffective overall. Name an OLB in a 4-3 that gets a lot of sacks.

Bell will be exposed in pass coverage. As was stated by htismaqe in another thread, if we play Bell on the outside, we're going to turn him into another Gary Stills.

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