FFL Trade Help!

Hoover · 09-13-2005, 12:46 PM

OK Here is what I have been offered

JJ Arrington
Tony Gonzalez
Ashley Lelie

for

Stephen Jackson
M. Pollard
M. Mason

My team as it is (Starters)

Delhomme, Jake
Jackson, Steven
Tomlinson, LaDainian
Burress, Plaxico
Horn, Joe
Mason, Derrick
Pollard, Marcus
Longwell, Ryan K
Eagles

Bledsoe, Drew
Anderson, Mike
Taylor, Fred
Toefield, LaBrandon
Colbert, Keary
Graham, Daniel TE
Walker, Javon WR GB

With J. Walker out for the year I'm hurting at WR, especially since I have to start 3, plus a TE.

I'm not keen on Mason, and think Lelie will put up solid #2 type numbers along with Burrass. I really would like Tony G since he can score like the top WRs, but I don't want to give up one of my top backs.

What if I offered Taylor, Mason and Pollard for Tony G, Arrington, and Lelie? I get a huge upgrade at TE for my back up RB who is an injury risk?

Thoughts?

**morphius** · 09-13-2005, 12:50 PM

You are already weak at RB, and I don't know that JJ will get it done for you in the long run. I'd turn it down, especially as much as tehy were feeding Mason and Pollard balls in their games.

oldandslow · 09-13-2005, 12:55 PM

I make the deal.

Fred Taylor and JJ will do ok. You know that Gonzo is the same as another WR.

And I don't like Stephan Jackson in the current Rams set up. I think they are going to be throwing the ball 45 times per game - because they will be behind and have a madman for a coach.

Hoover · 09-13-2005, 12:57 PM

I want to know why you think I'm weak at RB? I have the Best RB in the game, Stephen Jackson didn't have a huge breakout game but howmany backs did last week. Fred Taylor scares me, he doesn't get TDs. If I can move him for Tony G I think I should jump on it.

Mecca · 09-13-2005, 12:58 PM

JJ Arrington ran for 8 yards in the game Sunday..........

**morphius** · 09-13-2005, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover

I want to know why you think I'm weak at RB? I have the Best RB in the game, Stephen Jackson didn't have a huge breakout game but howmany backs did last week. Fred Taylor scares me, he doesn't get TDs. If I can move him for Tony G I think I should jump on it.

LOL! I missed Tomlinson. I wasn't sure how long Anderson was going to miss either. Still, I'm just not sure I would give up my number 2 RB for a couple tier 3 WR's.

Eleazar · 09-13-2005, 01:04 PM

J.J. Arrington is a fantasy bust this year. The early, 2 month old fantasy mags were high on him but he had an unspectacular preseason and it's clear that Green doesn't regard him as a feature back. If his 0.6 yards per carry against a team that allowed 4.5 per carry last year doesn't scare you, the fact that Marcel Shipp is stealing time from him ought to.

foxman · 09-13-2005, 01:08 PM

Don't do it. Reasons are already mentioned.

chagrin · 09-13-2005, 01:21 PM

Dude please, always break it down:

JJ Arington (he plays in Arizona, remember?)
Vs Stephen Jackson = Jackson

Tony G vs. Pollard = Tony G

Lelie (QB is teh suxor) vs D. Mason (QB is teh ghey and suxors even teh worse - plus he's injured)
= no winner there at all

Do the right thing and do NOT make this deal, or counter offer his ass.
Bottom line is you win with Tony, LOSE with JJ and break even with Lelie

Kyle401 · 09-13-2005, 01:23 PM

Another don't do it vote here. Arrington will end up on the WW in the next 2 weeks or so. The other owner may already be thinking about cutting him.

As for trades to strengthen your WR corps, I would look at the T. Bell owner's roster and see if he has a decent WR that can serve as your #2 or #3. Someone who you can use to play matchups with D. Mason and P. Burress. Horn is a must play IMO. Either trade MA to the Bell owner for the WR you want, or trade Taylor and Toefield for Bell and the WR you want.

Just some thoughts.

Hoover · 09-13-2005, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chagrin

Dude please, always break it down:

JJ Arington (he plays in Arizona, remember?)
Vs Stephen Jackson = Jackson

Tony G vs. Pollard = Tony G

Lelie (QB is teh suxor) vs D. Mason (QB is teh ghey and suxors even teh worse - plus he's injured)
= no winner there at all

Do the right thing and do NOT make this deal, or counter offer his ass.
Bottom line is you win with Tony, LOSE with JJ and break even with Lelie

(DUDE READ THE THREAD) I was thinking about Countering with Taylor not Jackson. There is no way I can trade Jackson for that.

chagrin · 09-13-2005, 01:29 PM

I didn't mean any offense, it's just the way I talk and type, sorry

**morphius** · 09-13-2005, 01:37 PM

Even with the idea of trading Taylor, I just don't know that it is a great trade for you. I just have to wonder how much sharing is going to happen with Faulk and Jackson down the road, and Taylor gives you a better then average backup if any of your number one's go down.

**Iowanian** · 09-13-2005, 01:44 PM

I was just offered Dunn for Rudi Johnson.

meh.

Hoover · 09-13-2005, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morphius

Even with the idea of trading Taylor, I just don't know that it is a great trade for you. I just have to wonder how much sharing is going to happen with Faulk and Jackson down the road, and Taylor gives you a better then average backup if any of your number one's go down.

Yeah, thats a good point. I think Pollard is probably better than I give him Credit for and Mason with a QB who can throw the ball for more than 5 yards might be a good #2. I think after seeing wht you guys think I should sit tight, even though I'd love to have TG on my team.

09-13-2005, 12:46 PM
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2101821	FFL Trade Help! OK Here is what I have been offered JJ Arrington Tony Gonzalez Ashley Lelie for Stephen Jackson M. Pollard M. Mason My team as it is (Starters) Delhomme, Jake Jackson, Steven Tomlinson, LaDainian Burress, Plaxico Horn, Joe Mason, Derrick Pollard, Marcus Longwell, Ryan K Eagles Bledsoe, Drew Anderson, Mike Taylor, Fred Toefield, LaBrandon Colbert, Keary Graham, Daniel TE Walker, Javon WR GB With J. Walker out for the year I'm hurting at WR, especially since I have to start 3, plus a TE. I'm not keen on Mason, and think Lelie will put up solid #2 type numbers along with Burrass. I really would like Tony G since he can score like the top WRs, but I don't want to give up one of my top backs. What if I offered Taylor, Mason and Pollard for Tony G, Arrington, and Lelie? I get a huge upgrade at TE for my back up RB who is an injury risk? Thoughts?
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09-13-2005, 12:57 PM	#4
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2101821	I want to know why you think I'm weak at RB? I have the Best RB in the game, Stephen Jackson didn't have a huge breakout game but howmany backs did last week. Fred Taylor scares me, he doesn't get TDs. If I can move him for Tony G I think I should jump on it.
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09-13-2005, 12:58 PM	#5
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-662950	JJ Arrington ran for 8 yards in the game Sunday..........
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09-13-2005, 01:04 PM	#7
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	J.J. Arrington is a fantasy bust this year. The early, 2 month old fantasy mags were high on him but he had an unspectacular preseason and it's clear that Green doesn't regard him as a feature back. If his 0.6 yards per carry against a team that allowed 4.5 per carry last year doesn't scare you, the fact that Marcel Shipp is stealing time from him ought to.
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09-13-2005, 01:08 PM	#8
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09-13-2005, 12:50 PM	#2
morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $5765027	You are already weak at RB, and I don't know that JJ will get it done for you in the long run. I'd turn it down, especially as much as tehy were feeding Mason and Pollard balls in their games.
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09-13-2005, 12:55 PM	#3
oldandslow Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $3763149	I make the deal. Fred Taylor and JJ will do ok. You know that Gonzo is the same as another WR. And I don't like Stephan Jackson in the current Rams set up. I think they are going to be throwing the ball 45 times per game - because they will be behind and have a madman for a coach.
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09-13-2005, 01:21 PM	#9
chagrin Giggitty! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missoula, Mt Casino cash: $9804905	Dude please, always break it down: JJ Arington (he plays in Arizona, remember?) Vs Stephen Jackson = Jackson Tony G vs. Pollard = Tony G Lelie (QB is teh suxor) vs D. Mason (QB is teh ghey and suxors even teh worse - plus he's injured) = no winner there at all Do the right thing and do NOT make this deal, or counter offer his ass. Bottom line is you win with Tony, LOSE with JJ and break even with Lelie __________________ Times have changed, so have I, things are better now.
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09-13-2005, 01:23 PM	#10
Kyle401 1st Round Bust Join Date: Feb 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	Another don't do it vote here. Arrington will end up on the WW in the next 2 weeks or so. The other owner may already be thinking about cutting him. As for trades to strengthen your WR corps, I would look at the T. Bell owner's roster and see if he has a decent WR that can serve as your #2 or #3. Someone who you can use to play matchups with D. Mason and P. Burress. Horn is a must play IMO. Either trade MA to the Bell owner for the WR you want, or trade Taylor and Toefield for Bell and the WR you want. Just some thoughts. __________________ Adopt a Chief: Eric "Bench Warmer" Hicks - AKA Hali's Towel Boy
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09-13-2005, 01:29 PM	#12
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09-13-2005, 01:37 PM	#13
morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $5765027	Even with the idea of trading Taylor, I just don't know that it is a great trade for you. I just have to wonder how much sharing is going to happen with Faulk and Jackson down the road, and Taylor gives you a better then average backup if any of your number one's go down.
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09-13-2005, 01:44 PM	#14
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