Chiefs QB of the Future???

Shox · 09:32 AM

Green is beginning to show his age slightly. I thought his declining arm strength really showed up at times this past year. I think he only has 1 maybe 2 year left at best. Surely the Chiefs will address the situation in the offseason. So who is next?

A. Chad Pennington: The Jets are not going to give 9 million to Penny and I doubt he will just give in and forfiet the bonus. Players and coaches seem to want out of the Jets organization pretty bad right now. Penny is damaged goods right now, so he could probably be picked up pretty cheap (assuming the Jets cut him loose). Let him sit behind Trent in 2006 and really get healthy and then take over in 2007.

B. Daunte Culpepper: Giving up a second round pick for a guy who has been as successful as Culpepper is not a bad risk. Many say Moss made Cpepper look a lot better than he really is which might be true. But I think Cpepper can still be a very good NFL QB. Again he could backup Green for 2006 and really get his knee healthy and then take over in 2007. The problem here is getting him and his contract under the CAP.

C. Drew Brees: Rumor is the Chargers might let him go. I think he would be a very good fit for the Chiefs. He knows how to use the TE and is more than willing to turn around and give the rock to a stud RB, rather than demand to be the focus of the offense. Two huge problems here; 1 CAP issues, 2 Brees is not going to want to play backup and I doubt the Chiefs will kick Green to the bench.

D. Patrick Ramsey: I like this possiblity a lot. I think he has played reasonable well in difficult situations. I think if you put players around him, a running game, and a decent offensive system he can be a very effect NFL QB. I don't think he is a FA agent, but I would imagine he could be acquired for a 2nd (maybe 3rd) round pick.

E. Other FA trade candidate: I can't think of anything else that would be very promissing.

F. Draft: The Chiefs need to use the first round pick to fill a need on D. So I can't imagine using there 1st round pick on a QB. The NFL has many later round QB who have been great, but the Chiefs don't ever seem to get any of those guys so I'm not optimistic about this propect.

Most likely:
1. Ramsey
2. Rookie 3rd rounder
3. Pennington
4. Other
5. Do nothing this year
6. Brees
7. Cpepper

Hoover · 02-17-2006, 09:22 AM

My top pick would be Ramsey.

Hew is young, and its not going to break the bank.

Culpepper is coming off an injury, fumbles a lot, and hasn't done well when he doesn't have Moss.

Pennington, guy has heart but so do I, he sucks and is always hurt.

Brees, another guy who got hurt, I like him, I think he would be a good fit, but I'm not willing to give him the $$$$ he is going to demand.

Extra Point · 02-17-2006, 09:23 AM

Jamarcus Russell. Louisiana State University.

In the meanwhile, Ramsey would do. It's a Washington thang with Green......

**Dunit35** · 02-17-2006, 09:27 AM

I'm going with Ramsey as well.

Culpepper...no thanks..
Brees...no thanks
Pennington...no thanks...not after reading that ESPN article awhile back about that QB who was never the same after the same injury Pennington has.

htismaqe · 02-17-2006, 09:28 AM

There isn't a good option on that list, other than F.

Archie Bunker · 02-17-2006, 09:32 AM

I like McCown from AZ in FA. I would love to get Croyle from Alabama if he is around in the 3rd. Whitehurst would be a good option in the mid-rounds also.

Hoover · 02-17-2006, 09:34 AM

I agree that Brees is the best one on the list, but I'm willing to develope someone one like Ramsey to save FA space so we can add some FAs on D.

Frankie · 02-17-2006, 09:46 AM

Ramsey's definitely worth a shot. I think he can be rehabbed in the next 2 years while we still can count on Green. If we draft one, I hope he won't be a first or second rounder. With the first subpar day from Green all fickle fans would scream for the new guy. A 3rd rounder with talent that needs polishing is the way to go. And the timing would be perfect. What QB is projected to go in the 3rd by draft gurus?

And don't forget Kilian? I'd like to see how he does in Europe.

Deberg_1990 · 02-17-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Shox

. I thought his declining arm strength really showed up at times this past year.

You Did?? Look, the guy has ever had the greatest arm strength in the world but he finds a way to get the job done. Hes nails on the short to intermidiate stuff down the middle of the field. What he has never excelled at is the deep out down the sidelines. Im not sure if thats his arm strenght though or hes just not good at the timing?? Ive seen him underthrow and overthrow those routes for 5 seasons now....

Having said that, Id love to see what Ramsey could do in this offense under the tutelage of Green for the next 2-3 seasons.

htismaqe · 02-17-2006, 09:48 AM

The is one of the deepest drafts for QB's in a long time. There's gonna be some decent talent available in the 3rd and 4th.

pikesome · 02-17-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

I agree that Brees is the best one on the list, but I'm willing to develope someone one like Ramsey to save FA space so we can add some FAs on D.

Does SD even have to do anything with Brees? I know they would probably like to but I think their current cap situation allows them to be picky

htismaqe · 02-17-2006, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pikesome

Does SD even have to do anything with Brees? I know they would probably like to but I think their current cap situation allows them to be picky

They have to offer him a contract or tag him again. His tag number would be even more than last year's $9M.

Deberg_1990 · 02-17-2006, 09:54 AM

If Brees goes anywhere it will be to start. Do you really think he would want to go somewhere and be a backup??? I highly doubt it. Hes a proven starter in this league. Ramsey would be our best bet out of that bunch.

ChiefsOne · 02-17-2006, 09:57 AM

Brees would be my choice if it could work, but never gonna happen. I say draft best available QB anytime after 1st round.

dtrain · 02-17-2006, 09:58 AM

What about Sage Rosenfels in Miami or McMahon in Philly those are two good young arms that could be had reasonably cheap.

02-17-2006, 09:16 AM
Shox Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Casino cash: $10005765	Chiefs QB of the Future??? Green is beginning to show his age slightly. I thought his declining arm strength really showed up at times this past year. I think he only has 1 maybe 2 year left at best. Surely the Chiefs will address the situation in the offseason. So who is next? A. Chad Pennington: The Jets are not going to give 9 million to Penny and I doubt he will just give in and forfiet the bonus. Players and coaches seem to want out of the Jets organization pretty bad right now. Penny is damaged goods right now, so he could probably be picked up pretty cheap (assuming the Jets cut him loose). Let him sit behind Trent in 2006 and really get healthy and then take over in 2007. B. Daunte Culpepper: Giving up a second round pick for a guy who has been as successful as Culpepper is not a bad risk. Many say Moss made Cpepper look a lot better than he really is which might be true. But I think Cpepper can still be a very good NFL QB. Again he could backup Green for 2006 and really get his knee healthy and then take over in 2007. The problem here is getting him and his contract under the CAP. C. Drew Brees: Rumor is the Chargers might let him go. I think he would be a very good fit for the Chiefs. He knows how to use the TE and is more than willing to turn around and give the rock to a stud RB, rather than demand to be the focus of the offense. Two huge problems here; 1 CAP issues, 2 Brees is not going to want to play backup and I doubt the Chiefs will kick Green to the bench. D. Patrick Ramsey: I like this possiblity a lot. I think he has played reasonable well in difficult situations. I think if you put players around him, a running game, and a decent offensive system he can be a very effect NFL QB. I don't think he is a FA agent, but I would imagine he could be acquired for a 2nd (maybe 3rd) round pick. E. Other FA trade candidate: I can't think of anything else that would be very promissing. F. Draft: The Chiefs need to use the first round pick to fill a need on D. So I can't imagine using there 1st round pick on a QB. The NFL has many later round QB who have been great, but the Chiefs don't ever seem to get any of those guys so I'm not optimistic about this propect. Most likely: 1. Ramsey 2. Rookie 3rd rounder 3. Pennington 4. Other 5. Do nothing this year 6. Brees 7. Cpepper Last edited by Shox; 02-17-2006 at 09:32 AM..
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02-17-2006, 09:22 AM	#2
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-1961821	My top pick would be Ramsey. Hew is young, and its not going to break the bank. Culpepper is coming off an injury, fumbles a lot, and hasn't done well when he doesn't have Moss. Pennington, guy has heart but so do I, he sucks and is always hurt. Brees, another guy who got hurt, I like him, I think he would be a good fit, but I'm not willing to give him the $$$$ he is going to demand.
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02-17-2006, 09:23 AM	#3
Extra Point MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Prairie Village, KS Casino cash: $10004900	Jamarcus Russell. Louisiana State University. In the meanwhile, Ramsey would do. It's a Washington thang with Green...... __________________ "Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits." --Satchel Paige
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02-17-2006, 09:27 AM	#4
Dunit35 Keepin it Real Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Oklahoma Casino cash: $-2112955	I'm going with Ramsey as well. Culpepper...no thanks.. Brees...no thanks Pennington...no thanks...not after reading that ESPN article awhile back about that QB who was never the same after the same injury Pennington has.
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02-17-2006, 09:28 AM	#5
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	There isn't a good option on that list, other than F.
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02-17-2006, 09:32 AM	#6
Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $-701022	I like McCown from AZ in FA. I would love to get Croyle from Alabama if he is around in the 3rd. Whitehurst would be a good option in the mid-rounds also.
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02-17-2006, 09:34 AM	#7
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-1961821	I agree that Brees is the best one on the list, but I'm willing to develope someone one like Ramsey to save FA space so we can add some FAs on D.
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02-17-2006, 09:46 AM	#8
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Ramsey's definitely worth a shot. I think he can be rehabbed in the next 2 years while we still can count on Green. If we draft one, I hope he won't be a first or second rounder. With the first subpar day from Green all fickle fans would scream for the new guy. A 3rd rounder with talent that needs polishing is the way to go. And the timing would be perfect. What QB is projected to go in the 3rd by draft gurus? And don't forget Kilian? I'd like to see how he does in Europe.
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02-17-2006, 09:48 AM	#10
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	The is one of the deepest drafts for QB's in a long time. There's gonna be some decent talent available in the 3rd and 4th.
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02-17-2006, 09:54 AM	#13
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $314454	If Brees goes anywhere it will be to start. Do you really think he would want to go somewhere and be a backup??? I highly doubt it. Hes a proven starter in this league. Ramsey would be our best bet out of that bunch. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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02-17-2006, 09:57 AM	#14
ChiefsOne Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $5138192	Brees would be my choice if it could work, but never gonna happen. I say draft best available QB anytime after 1st round.
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02-17-2006, 09:58 AM	#15
dtrain Who's your daddy? Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Junction City Casino cash: $-1206694	What about Sage Rosenfels in Miami or McMahon in Philly those are two good young arms that could be had reasonably cheap. __________________ To bad more of the team doesn't have this mentality!!!
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