Trent Dilfer in Red & Gold?

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-22-2001, 02:28 PM

Trent Dilfer would be an extremely affordable option (with
Tony Banks) that would allow the Chiefs to get back into cap shape while developing a young QB. Dilfer's numbers are very good. How would the fans take Dilfer? Below is a statistical comparison between Brad Johnson (likely a $7 million dollar a year player) and Trent Dilfer (likely a 2-3 million a year player) over the past 4 seasons. Both have been to the Pro Bowl once:

Brad Johnson: 28-17(.622)
Trent Dilfer: 37-19(.661)
TD% Johnson: 1,499 att 63 TD's
TD% Dilfer: 1,419 att 69 TD's
TD/INT Ratio: Johnson-63TD's, 48 INTS
TD/INT Ration: Dilfer-69 TD's, 59 INTS
Playoff Record: Johnson 1-2 Dilfer 5-1

If Grbac doesn't resign, I wouldn't be surprised to see Dilfer in Red & Gold. The Chiefs would be in better cap shape, have an affordable winning QB, and build through the draft.

keg in kc · 02-22-2001, 02:31 PM

I swear I've seen this post somewhere...

hmm.

;)

For the sake of the folks who don't read the other board, I'll just say the thought of Dilfer in Arrowhead in red is not a pleasant one for me, and leave it at that.

HC_Chief · 02-22-2001, 02:41 PM

<h1>NOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!</h1>

NaptownChief · 02-22-2001, 02:45 PM

I would no longer be a Chief fan if that were to happen...You overlooked the yards issue...He has never thrown for a paltry 3000 yards in a season...Career hi is 2858...He went to the Pro Bowl in a year that he led the 30th ranked offense in the league...Baltimore's offense was horrible...The only reason he played is cause Tony Banks is even worse...Career TD/INT.....82/91....YUK

Mile High Mania · 02-22-2001, 02:48 PM

I think this is the perfect solution for is currently ailing KC.....

KC Jones · 02-22-2001, 02:50 PM

Does he come with the Ravens defense?

Brock · 02-22-2001, 02:50 PM

Definitely a Carl-like move. After all, he can then say, "Look everybody, I've brought you a Super Bowl winning quarterback".

keg in kc · 02-22-2001, 02:51 PM

He could even raise ticket prices again...

donkhater · 02-22-2001, 03:02 PM

Statistics aside, what has Saunders and Vermiel stated as the most important quality of a QB running their offense? The answer: accuracy. Grbac may not have the accuracy of Warner, but it's not bad. Dilfer's accuracy is bad. It won't even be an issue.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-22-2001, 03:36 PM

I'm not lobbying for Dilfer, but I am trying to be a realist. If the Chiefs can't afford Elvis, they certainly won't be able to afford Brad Johnson. Realistcally, I doubt that the Chiefs would send their #12 pick overall for either Matt Hasselbeck or Trent Green. So where would that leave the Chiefs? Vermeil has already stated that there will be growing pains, and losing Grbac could be one of them. If the Chiefs don't re-sign Grbac, a one year deal for someone like Dilfer makes sense. Trent Green could be let go for less next year, and other free agent QB's will be available next year as well. That would allow the Chiefs to draft and build the team. It's just a logical way of looking at things (until we know what's going to happen).

58Forever · 02-22-2001, 04:04 PM

I'm sorry, but Trent Dilfer is no option...the only reason he won a SB was because the Ravens had D and a running game...if he were our QB...we would have been 0-16...

so along with HC....I say...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...****ING WAY...:) have a nice day

Lightning Rod · 02-22-2001, 04:48 PM

This must have something to do with the what is your favorite adult beverage topic. Are you trying to wrestle the GM job away from Bwana on the all idiot team? :)

Trent is not??????? what is the word I'm looking for uh hmmmmm oh,,,, Good. He is not good.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-22-2001, 05:28 PM

I posted this topic so that people would again discuss football, not because I am lobbying or believe that Dilfer would be right for the Chiefs. I posted this to promote discussion, not Dilfer.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-22-2001, 05:31 PM

And believe me, the Chiefs are exploring EVERY option for QB at this point, and I'm sure they are looking at tape of every available Affordable QB, and that does include Dilfer.

DanT · 02-22-2001, 05:43 PM

If the Chiefs were to acquire Dilfer, which I think is unlikely, I'd be inclined to think he has possibilities. He impressed me two seasons ago in two games (vs. the Chiefs and vs. the Saints) with his ability to deliver the long toss. I started thinking then that he was scorned out of all proportion to what he should be. I wouldn't put much stock in what the people of Tampa Bay think about any football player, especially not a QB.

[Edited by DanT on 02-22-2001 at 06:53 PM]

02-22-2001, 02:31 PM	#2
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I swear I've seen this post somewhere... hmm. ;) For the sake of the folks who don't read the other board, I'll just say the thought of Dilfer in Arrowhead in red is not a pleasant one for me, and leave it at that.
Posts: 58,682

02-22-2001, 02:41 PM	#3
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	<h1>NOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!</h1> __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
Posts: 12,355

02-22-2001, 02:45 PM	#4
NaptownChief Football Pimp Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indianapolis,IN Casino cash: $9974900	I would no longer be a Chief fan if that were to happen...You overlooked the yards issue...He has never thrown for a paltry 3000 yards in a season...Career hi is 2858...He went to the Pro Bowl in a year that he led the 30th ranked offense in the league...Baltimore's offense was horrible...The only reason he played is cause Tony Banks is even worse...Career TD/INT.....82/91....YUK __________________ "We weren't worth a damn," the Kansas City Chiefs head coach said, shaking his head. "I'm not worth a damn. No one's worth a damn..." Former President of the Eric Downing Fan Club and Current President of the Kris"Secret Weapon"Wilson Fan Club
Posts: 4,357

02-22-2001, 02:48 PM	#5
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $1057229	I think this is the perfect solution for is currently ailing KC..... __________________
Posts: 30,894

02-22-2001, 02:50 PM	#6
KC Jones Genious Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $10012761	Does he come with the Ravens defense?
Posts: 5,366

02-22-2001, 02:28 PM
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	Trent Dilfer would be an extremely affordable option (with Tony Banks) that would allow the Chiefs to get back into cap shape while developing a young QB. Dilfer's numbers are very good. How would the fans take Dilfer? Below is a statistical comparison between Brad Johnson (likely a $7 million dollar a year player) and Trent Dilfer (likely a 2-3 million a year player) over the past 4 seasons. Both have been to the Pro Bowl once: Brad Johnson: 28-17(.622) Trent Dilfer: 37-19(.661) TD% Johnson: 1,499 att 63 TD's TD% Dilfer: 1,419 att 69 TD's TD/INT Ratio: Johnson-63TD's, 48 INTS TD/INT Ration: Dilfer-69 TD's, 59 INTS Playoff Record: Johnson 1-2 Dilfer 5-1 If Grbac doesn't resign, I wouldn't be surprised to see Dilfer in Red & Gold. The Chiefs would be in better cap shape, have an affordable winning QB, and build through the draft.
Posts: 88,960

02-22-2001, 02:50 PM	#7
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	Definitely a Carl-like move. After all, he can then say, "Look everybody, I've brought you a Super Bowl winning quarterback".
Posts: 47,314

02-22-2001, 02:51 PM	#8
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	He could even raise ticket prices again...
Posts: 58,682

02-22-2001, 03:02 PM	#9
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	Statistics aside, what has Saunders and Vermiel stated as the most important quality of a QB running their offense? The answer: accuracy. Grbac may not have the accuracy of Warner, but it's not bad. Dilfer's accuracy is bad. It won't even be an issue. __________________ The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
Posts: 3,994

02-22-2001, 03:36 PM	#10
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	I'm not lobbying for Dilfer, but I am trying to be a realist. If the Chiefs can't afford Elvis, they certainly won't be able to afford Brad Johnson. Realistcally, I doubt that the Chiefs would send their #12 pick overall for either Matt Hasselbeck or Trent Green. So where would that leave the Chiefs? Vermeil has already stated that there will be growing pains, and losing Grbac could be one of them. If the Chiefs don't re-sign Grbac, a one year deal for someone like Dilfer makes sense. Trent Green could be let go for less next year, and other free agent QB's will be available next year as well. That would allow the Chiefs to draft and build the team. It's just a logical way of looking at things (until we know what's going to happen).
Posts: 88,960

02-22-2001, 04:04 PM	#11
58Forever It's dejavu all over again! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: at home in my own chair Casino cash: $10004900	I'm sorry, but Trent Dilfer is no option...the only reason he won a SB was because the Ravens had D and a running game...if he were our QB...we would have been 0-16... so along with HC....I say...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...**ING WAY...:) have a nice day __________________ joe If the other team scores zero, three points is enough!** "screw you guys, I'm going home."
Posts: 1,828

02-22-2001, 04:48 PM	#12
Lightning Rod Need a new title Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Prairie Village Casino cash: $10004900	This must have something to do with the what is your favorite adult beverage topic. Are you trying to wrestle the GM job away from Bwana on the all idiot team? :) Trent is not??????? what is the word I'm looking for uh hmmmmm oh,,,, Good. He is not good. __________________ Who was the first person to say, "See that chicken over there ... I'm gonna eat the first thing that comes out if its butt"?
Posts: 1,151

02-22-2001, 05:28 PM	#13
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	I posted this topic so that people would again discuss football, not because I am lobbying or believe that Dilfer would be right for the Chiefs. I posted this to promote discussion, not Dilfer.
Posts: 88,960

02-22-2001, 05:31 PM	#14
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	And believe me, the Chiefs are exploring EVERY option for QB at this point, and I'm sure they are looking at tape of every available Affordable QB, and that does include Dilfer.
Posts: 88,960

02-22-2001, 05:43 PM	#15
DanT Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Davis, CA Casino cash: $1741711	If the Chiefs were to acquire Dilfer, which I think is unlikely, I'd be inclined to think he has possibilities. He impressed me two seasons ago in two games (vs. the Chiefs and vs. the Saints) with his ability to deliver the long toss. I started thinking then that he was scorned out of all proportion to what he should be. I wouldn't put much stock in what the people of Tampa Bay think about any football player, especially not a QB. [Edited by DanT on 02-22-2001 at 06:53 PM]
Posts: 4,341