Chiefs Jared Allen <=> Brandon Albert?

**petegz28** · 12-01-2008, 08:03 AM

I would throw Dorsey in the mix but Albert has been the only one performing. Now, was Albert worth trading Allen?

I say, yes. Albert has been great for a rookie who did not play the pre-season, etc, etc. I think good-great LT's are a more valued commodity than a good-great DE.

So with all the talk going on about Allen, was Albert worth the trade?

phisherman · 12-01-2008, 08:10 AM

a good LT is worth it.

Chiefnj2 · 12-01-2008, 08:14 AM

Lets see how long and at what cost it takes to replace Allen. People are talking about taking Orakpo in the top 5. He'll demand money similar to Allen and who knows if he will be any good.

Delano · 12-01-2008, 08:16 AM

As a Minnesota Twins baseball fan, I kind of compared certain aspects of the Jared Allen trade with the Johan Santana trade.

The thing that got me through both of them (without knowing how the traded players or draft picks would turn out) was knowing there was absolutely NO shot at resigning that player when their contract was up. There was no way Jared was coming back.

Three draft picks are worth the last year of a contract for a guy that doesn't want to play for your team.

As many have said, getting a long term left offensive tackle, a running back and safety are easily worth the one year of Jared Allen.

Chiefnj2 · 12-01-2008, 08:17 AM

Clark should have gotten rid of Peterson.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-01-2008, 08:22 AM

Dorsey had no bearing on that trade. We would have drafted him regardless, and he wasn't part of the compensation.

Is that so hard to understand?

PhillyChiefFan · 12-01-2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Lets see how long and at what cost it takes to replace Allen. People are talking about taking Orakpo in the top 5. He'll demand money similar to Allen and who knows if he will be any good.

That is the only caveat to asking a comparison question. We need to replace a great DE, and now we have to hope that the next one pans out. I like Orakpo but he hasn't proven anything at all in the NFL (obviously), meanwhile JA has definitly proven himself.

And JA was a 4th rounder.

PhillyChiefFan · 12-01-2008, 08:27 AM

I believe we used the extra pick wisely and got a hell of a converted LT.

Albert is playing as well as than most dedicated college LT, let alone a converted one.

Dorsey will come along next year, I am tired of hearing about him being a bust. DT is one of the toughest positions to learn going into the NFL.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-01-2008, 08:27 AM

We turned 1 year of Jared Allen into 10 years of Branden Albert, plus Jamaal Charles and DaJuan Morgan.

Yes, let's bitch some more about this trade, that's all True Fans ever do, mortgage the future for today.

Impatient ****s.

Delano · 12-01-2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Lets see how long and at what cost it takes to replace Allen. People are talking about taking Orakpo in the top 5. He'll demand money similar to Allen and who knows if he will be any good.

How long and at what cost will it take to replace the one year remaining on Allen's contract? I hope you can concede that Allen would have signed elsewhere this upcoming offseason. If so, we would be looking at a DE in the draft ANYWAY as well as a LT, a backup RB, and more DB help (since we would not have received the trade).

PhillyChiefFan · 12-01-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We turned 1 year of Jared Allen into 10 years of Branden Albert, plus Jamaal Charles and DaJuan Morgan.

Yes, let's bitch some more about this trade, that's all True Fans ever do, mortgage the future for today.

Impatient ****s.

And let's not forget the 60 mil contract.

I think we have players to build a team around now. they are raw but they are learning their positions with little or no role models, save maybe Cottam.

Everyone forgets that last year Dorsey, Albert, Flowers, Carr, Charles, and everyone else that is starting or get significant playing time were taking finals last year at this time and playing college football. Now they are starting on an NFL football team. Money doesn't buy experience and technique.

PhillyChiefFan · 12-01-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Delano

How long and at what cost will it take to replace the one year remaining on Allen's contract? I hope you can concede that Allen would have signed elsewhere this upcoming offseason. If so, we would be looking at a DE in the draft ANYWAY as well as a LT, a backup RB, and more DB help (since we would not have received the trade).

**SAUTO** · 12-01-2008, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We turned 1 year of Jared Allen into 10 years of Branden Albert, plus Jamaal Charles and DaJuan Morgan.

Yes, let's bitch some more about this trade, that's all True Fans ever do, mortgage the future for today.

Impatient ****s.

AGREED

Agent V · 12-01-2008, 08:45 AM

Offensive line is my first priority. Thigpen's output wouldn't be near as impressive (yes, not all that great in the last two games) without his blindside protected. Albert has done one hell of a job. And you know what the most important thing is that he's done? He's made McIntosh look even worse.

Chief Faithful · 12-01-2008, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We turned 1 year of Jared Allen into 10 years of Branden Albert, plus Jamaal Charles and DaJuan Morgan.

Yes, let's bitch some more about this trade, that's all True Fans ever do, mortgage the future for today.

Impatient ****s.

True, the Chiefs had to give up their best now defensive player, but Albert can anchor an offensive line for the next decade. Well worth the trade.

12-01-2008, 08:03 AM
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12-01-2008, 08:16 AM	#4
Delano [b]Supporter[/b] Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A Hypnagogic Landscape Casino cash: $7725015	As a Minnesota Twins baseball fan, I kind of compared certain aspects of the Jared Allen trade with the Johan Santana trade. The thing that got me through both of them (without knowing how the traded players or draft picks would turn out) was knowing there was absolutely NO shot at resigning that player when their contract was up. There was no way Jared was coming back. Three draft picks are worth the last year of a contract for a guy that doesn't want to play for your team. As many have said, getting a long term left offensive tackle, a running back and safety are easily worth the one year of Jared Allen. __________________ A million CPilgrims face Mecca. Think of the power behind that fact. All logging in now. And bending. And praying. ChiefsPlanet is the angle at which realities meet. - Don DeLillo
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12-01-2008, 08:27 AM	#8
PhillyChiefFan Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Casino cash: $3221139	I believe we used the extra pick wisely and got a hell of a converted LT. Albert is playing as well as than most dedicated college LT, let alone a converted one. Dorsey will come along next year, I am tired of hearing about him being a bust. DT is one of the toughest positions to learn going into the NFL.
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12-01-2008, 08:45 AM	#14
Agent V Bring me Geno. Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Offensive line is my first priority. Thigpen's output wouldn't be near as impressive (yes, not all that great in the last two games) without his blindside protected. Albert has done one hell of a job. And you know what the most important thing is that he's done? He's made McIntosh look even worse.
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