Chiefs Shop For Free Agents: Who would You Pick Up?

KCJohnny · 12-25-2008, 05:04 AM

Shop For Free Agents: Who would You Pick Up?

Scout.com 2009 Free Agency Rankings

Chiefs have only 17 players on the 47 man roster with 4 years or more experience. That's 18 rookies, 30 guys total in their 3rd year or less. That makes Kansas City the youngest team in the NFL. The departure of players like Pat Surtain, Damon Huard and Donnie Edwards would make the Chiefs even less bouyed by experience.

The Chiefs will in all likelihood bid on some of the players listed at site linked to above. Anybody got your attention? With the team $32 mil under the salary cap, I think the FO can afford a bit of a shopping spree.

Me? Julius Peppers and Albert Haynesworth would look great in red & gold. Safetyman Yeremiah Bell is only in his 5th year.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,
KCJohnny

Mr. Arrowhead · 12-25-2008, 07:38 AM

Peppers and Vilma

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-25-2008, 08:10 AM

Suggs is the only player of note even worth pursuing in FA, and that's assuming he doesn't get tagged.

None of the top guys are going to come here unless we pay them probably 10% more than what Allen got from Minnesota. We aren't at the point where we can add top tier guys, and even then, you shouldn't get cornerstones from FA, only complementary players.

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-25-2008, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Suggs is the only player of note even worth pursuing in FA, and that's assuming he doesn't get tagged.

None of the top guys are going to come here unless we pay them probably 10% more than what Allen got from Minnesota. We aren't at the point where we can add top tier guys, and even then, you shouldn't get cornerstones from FA, only complementary players.

This.

KCJohnny · 12-25-2008, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Suggs is the only player of note even worth pursuing in FA, and that's assuming he doesn't get tagged.

None of the top guys are going to come here unless we pay them probably 10% more than what Allen got from Minnesota. We aren't at the point where we can add top tier guys, and even then, you shouldn't get cornerstones from FA, only complementary players.

Says who? You ascribe to a subjective orthodoxy that you assume all fans must by needs follow. Chiefs fans should note that Lenny Dawson was the equivalent to a FA and he was THE cornerstone of the Kansas City Chiefs to include 2 SB appearances.

If we aren't at the point to add top tier players ($32 mil under the cap) then who is?

**The Bad Guy** · 12-25-2008, 08:40 AM

Terrell Suggs and Jason Brown.

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-25-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Says who? You ascribe to a subjective orthodoxy that you assume all fans must by needs follow. Chiefs fans should note that Lenny Dawson was the equivalent to a FA and he was THE cornerstone of the Kansas City Chiefs to include 2 SB appearances.

Your logic is based upon a 45 year old occurrence - it's no wonder you're not taken seriously.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-25-2008, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Says who? You ascribe to a subjective orthodoxy that you assume all fans must by needs follow. Chiefs fans should note that Lenny Dawson was the equivalent to a FA and he was THE cornerstone of the Kansas City Chiefs to include 2 SB appearances.

If we aren't at the point to add top tier players ($32 mil under the cap) then who is?

Len Dawson was 40 years ago. The NFL changes. At one point the draft was almost 20 rounds and there was no free agency.

The fact of the matter is that with the increase in the cap and the use of the franchise tag, top tier players don't get away. All the players who hit the open market have severe flaws in their game or huge personal question marks surrounding them with so much associated risk that the increase in the size of the contracts far outweighs the potential reward of signing them.

Draft your core players, let the nonessential guys walk in FA, and collect compensatory draft picks. Use the savings to lock up the big guys.

Look at all the big free agent prizes of the last several years. T.O., Nate Clements, Steve Hutchinson, Leonard Davis, Joey Porter, Plaxico Burress, Justin Smith. All those players either play complementary positions (Hutch, Davis), are complementary players (Smith) and got paid huge cash, or are nutjobs. The one exception is Clements who got a 70 million dollar contract and has done nothing to justify it.

This team has built itself through FA for the last 15 years and hasn't won a playoff game because of it. At least the Chiefs of about 89-94 were built through the draft, save for Saleamua and Montana. Once KC's core draft picks from the end of the Steadman era dried up, so did the team.

Deberg_1990 · 12-25-2008, 09:18 AM

IM just glad that KCJohnny wont ever be a GM.

Fat Elvis · 12-25-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Len Dawson was 40 years ago. The NFL changes. At one point the draft was almost 20 rounds and there was no free agency.

This team has built itself through FA for the last 15 years and hasn't won a playoff game because of it. At least the Chiefs of about 89-94 were built through the draft, save for Saleamua and Montana. Once KC's core draft picks from the end of the Steadman era dried up, so did the team.

Whoa there...don't confuse ShortJeep Johnny with the facts.

RustShack · 12-25-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

IM just glad that KCJohnny wont ever be a GM.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-25-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Suggs is the only player of note even worth pursuing in FA, and that's assuming he doesn't get tagged.

None of the top guys are going to come here unless we pay them probably 10% more than what Allen got from Minnesota. We aren't at the point where we can add top tier guys, and even then, you shouldn't get cornerstones from FA, only complementary players.

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milkman · 12-25-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Len Dawson was 40 years ago.

Not to mention that, although he turned into a HoF QB, he wasn't in any way, shape, or form, considered a cornerstone FA in the open market.

FloridaMan88 · 12-25-2008, 02:13 PM

Matt Cassel and Antonio Bryant would be at the top my list.

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-25-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Matt Cassel and Antonio Bryant would be at the top my list.

Right, cause, who needs defense?

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