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Old 09-19-2011, 12:38 AM  
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Name the GM who got it right on the 2nd coaching hire
I was trying to think if theres any GM in the history of the NFL that missed on the first coaching hire but got it right the second time. I can't think of any off the top of my head....
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Old 09-19-2011, 12:39 AM   #2
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Old 09-19-2011, 12:40 AM   #3
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Old 09-19-2011, 01:56 AM   #4
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As bad as Cassel is, we dont know if Haley is a bad hire.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:00 AM   #5
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As bad as Cassel is, we dont know if Haley is a bad hire.

how many more blow outs do we need till we know haley is a bad hire.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:01 AM   #6
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As bad as Cassel is, we dont know if Haley is a bad hire.
I think we're getting an idea. I will say this though I think it's bullshit how Haley will get all the blame.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:03 AM   #7
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I think we're getting an idea. I will say this though I think it's bullshit how Haley will get all the blame.
I do as well but if we go 1-15 or 0-16 not one fan on here should defend him from getting fired.
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how many more blow outs do we need till we know haley is a bad hire.
Fix the QB position. Problem solved.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:15 AM   #9
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Fix the QB position. Problem solved.
even if we put in Stanzi or Palko I dont think it would change the W/L in Buffalo or Detroit.

one of the Major problems this team has is QB but even that is just one of many.
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even if we put in Stanzi or Palko I dont think it would change the W/L in Buffalo or Detroit.

one of the Major problems this team has is QB but even that is just one of many.
QB problem translates into 1/3 of the problem of defense: simply being tired as hell due to time of possession.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:30 AM   #11
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QB problem translates into 1/3 of the problem of defense: simply being tired as hell due to time of possession.
Field position is the worst part and heres how it translates.

This is how ****ed up Cassel has our defense.

We are the #23 defense in the NFL in yardage allowed...but are dead last in points....by a HUGE margin.

We average giving up 44.5 and the 2nd to last (Rams) only give up 31.

That 2 tds per game worse than the 31st ranked scoring defense, but we arent giving up anywhere near the amount of yards that should make that possible in relation to that many points.

This team needs a quarterback worse than any other in the NFL.

If we start Stanzi after the bye, I bet the energy level of the team will go up almost immediately.
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Well lets see here.

Year one, Haley fires the OC the week the season starts. We suck offensively. Cassel sucks.

Year two, Pioli brings in Crennel and Weiss, we win some games. Holy shit we win our division. The last game of the season Haley starts disliking Wiess and his playcalling and all of the sudden we suck on offense again.

Year three, Haley is back to doing offense his way. Surprise surprise, we royally suck.

Yeah, Haley isn't any part of this problem at all.

That being said, I am really unsure that I trust Pioli to make a good second pick.
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Well lets see here.

Year one, Haley fires the OC the week the season starts. We suck offensively. Cassel sucks.

Year two, Pioli brings in Crennel and Weiss, we win some games. Holy shit we win our division. The last game of the season Haley starts disliking Wiess and his playcalling and all of the sudden we suck on offense again.

Year three, Haley is back to doing offense his way. Surprise surprise, we royally suck.

Yeah, Haley isn't any part of this problem at all.

That being said, I am really unsure that I trust Pioli to make a good second pick.
I see what you're saying.

Cassel sucks.

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I see what you're saying.

Cassel sucks.
I didn't see any point beating the dead horse.
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Yea but what GM has gotten it right the 2nd time? Name some....
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