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SBK · 03-26-2009, 10:36 PM

I can't believe I didn't find anything about this posted.

Tesla released pics of their new Model S today. Totally electric, 7 passenger, sweet looking car---can be yours under $50,000.

Pricey yes, but who would have ever thought?? (they are gonna sell a crap ton of these things)

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/26/t...ile-range-0-6/

Tesla Model S: $50,000 EV sedan seats seven, 300-mile range, 0-60 in 5.5s

by Jonathon Ramsey on Mar 26th 2009 at 5:15PM

Tesla Model S – Click above for high-res image gallery

It's been a long and difficult road, but Tesla Motors has made it to unveiling No. 2. After a lot of hype and delivery of 250 Tesla Roadsters, the company's Model S was unveiled today in Hawthorne, California. Tesla was incredibly careful about not leaking a lot of information before today – designing the Model S at a high-security rocket facility helped with that, but we still got a peek a few hours ago – and now that it's here, we love what we see. As for new information on the Tesla For The Rest Of Us (sort of), follow the jump for all the details and check out the gallery of high res photos below.

UPDATE: We've added official pictures from Tesla, including this one of the Roadster and the Model S next to each other, to the second gallery below.

Gallery: Tesla Model S: LIVE REVEAL

Gallery: Tesla Model S

Live photos copyright ©2009 Drew Phillips / Weblogs, Inc.

We have just listened to the panjandrum Elon Musk and the car's designer speak about the new Tesla S sedan, and these are the things to know about the first mass-produced highway-capable electric car: production will ramp up to 20,000 units annually by the end of the first year of production; after the $7,500 tax break, the Model S will start at just under $50,000 – $49,900 to be exact; and 440-volt charging will be available. That base price is for the 160-mile range pack; a 230-mile range pack and a 300-mile range pack will also be available.

Some other fast facts:

The car fits seven people and their luggage: five adults and two children in rear-facing seats under the hatch inside, with luggage in the boot up front.
If not people, it can fit a mountain bike with its wheels still on, a surfboard and a 50-inch television at the same time.
The dashboard screens were installed to rid the interior of buttons. The 17-inch main display is fully 3G and Internet capable.
The 300-mile range is possible (vs the Roadster's 244-mile range) because the S has 8,000 battery cells vs. 6,000 in the Roadster, the batteries have been improved in mass and volumetric performance, and there is more advanced cell chemistry in each cell, and the S has a cd of about .27 vs. the Roadster's drag coefficient of .35.
On a 220V outlet, the car can be recharged in 4 hours.
Option packages are being decided, with the only initial option being the battery pack. Customers will also be able to buy the 160-mile pack and rent the long range pack for a trip.
They are finalizing the warranty, and expect it to be 3-4 years for the car and 7-10 years for the battery pack. They expect replacement battery packs to come in at "well under $5000" according to Elon.
The quickness: the standard S will get to 60 in 5.5 to 6.0 seconds. A coming sport version will get to 60 in "well under five seconds," Musk says.
The car will get a single-speed transmission.
The body panels and chassis will be primarily aluminum, with a total weight of just over 4,000 pounds, about 1,200 pounds of that being battery mass.
For infrastructure, Tesla is working with a government-affiliated partner to set up battery changing stations at various locations. They will be able to change the battery in 5-8 minutes, "quicker than filling up your car with gas."

According to Tesla's numbers, buying a Tesla S will save you $10-$15K vs a comparably priced gas-powered sedan when gas is $4 per gallon. For an equivalent comparison, you'd have to lease a $35,000 gas-powered car. The biggest hitch: the car doesn't go into production until Q3 of 2011.

SBK · 03-26-2009, 10:58 PM

Here's a bunch more images, including the interior.

http://www.autobloggreen.com/photos/...s-live-reveal/

Miles · 03-26-2009, 11:05 PM

Looks pretty damn good. Wonder what the average cost it would add to an electricity bill to recharge the battery.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-26-2009, 11:07 PM

Sweet. I'd buy one.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-26-2009, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles

Looks pretty damn good. Wonder what the average cost it would add to an electricity bill to recharge the battery.

Negligible, I'd imagine.

SBK · 03-26-2009, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles

Looks pretty damn good. Wonder what the average cost it would add to an electricity bill to recharge the battery.

One of the sites I was on (I think) said a charge would cost like $4.

SBK · 03-26-2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles

Looks pretty damn good. Wonder what the average cost it would add to an electricity bill to recharge the battery.

Quote:

Model S powertrain includes a liquid-cooled 9-inch motor, floor-mounted battery pack and a single-speed gearbox, delivering effortless acceleration, responsive handling and quiet simplicity -- no fancy clutchwork or gear-shifting required. Model S costs as little as $4 to fully charge – a bargain even if gasoline dropped to $1 per gallon. You can have affordable fun while being socially responsible.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/26/t...ile-range-0-6/

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-27-2009, 01:39 AM

Can you imagine the Hazmat Apocalypse that would entail one of these things hitting another vehicle that then caught fire?

acesn8s · 03-27-2009, 01:56 AM

Video of Tesla roadster

http://jalopnik.com/5110385/top-gear...tesla-roadster

SBK · 03-27-2009, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Can you imagine the Hazmat Apocalypse that would entail one of these things hitting another vehicle that then caught fire?

So you don't like?

MagicHef · 03-27-2009, 09:54 AM

I am skeptical of their numbers. If you can charge it fully in 4 hours on a 220v outlet, that's about 26.4 kWh of capacity. If it can travel 300 miles on one charge, that's an average of 0.088 kWh per mile. That's the equivalent of 375 mpg in a gasoline powered car, or let's say, 10 times as efficient as a fairly fuel efficient car. Most internal combustion engines have an efficiency of around 20%, so it's impossible for an electric motor to be 10 times as efficient.

03-26-2009, 10:36 PM
SBK Curry is the pick??? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Casino cash: $10004900	Tesla Model S I can't believe I didn't find anything about this posted. Tesla released pics of their new Model S today. Totally electric, 7 passenger, sweet looking car---can be yours under $50,000. Pricey yes, but who would have ever thought?? (they are gonna sell a crap ton of these things) http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/26/t...ile-range-0-6/ Tesla Model S: $50,000 EV sedan seats seven, 300-mile range, 0-60 in 5.5s by Jonathon Ramsey on Mar 26th 2009 at 5:15PM Tesla Model S – Click above for high-res image gallery It's been a long and difficult road, but Tesla Motors has made it to unveiling No. 2. After a lot of hype and delivery of 250 Tesla Roadsters, the company's Model S was unveiled today in Hawthorne, California. Tesla was incredibly careful about not leaking a lot of information before today – designing the Model S at a high-security rocket facility helped with that, but we still got a peek a few hours ago – and now that it's here, we love what we see. As for new information on the Tesla For The Rest Of Us (sort of), follow the jump for all the details and check out the gallery of high res photos below. UPDATE: We've added official pictures from Tesla, including this one of the Roadster and the Model S next to each other, to the second gallery below. Gallery: Tesla Model S: LIVE REVEAL Gallery: Tesla Model S Live photos copyright ©2009 Drew Phillips / Weblogs, Inc. We have just listened to the panjandrum Elon Musk and the car's designer speak about the new Tesla S sedan, and these are the things to know about the first mass-produced highway-capable electric car: production will ramp up to 20,000 units annually by the end of the first year of production; after the $7,500 tax break, the Model S will start at just under $50,000 – $49,900 to be exact; and 440-volt charging will be available. That base price is for the 160-mile range pack; a 230-mile range pack and a 300-mile range pack will also be available. Some other fast facts: The car fits seven people and their luggage: five adults and two children in rear-facing seats under the hatch inside, with luggage in the boot up front. If not people, it can fit a mountain bike with its wheels still on, a surfboard and a 50-inch television at the same time. The dashboard screens were installed to rid the interior of buttons. The 17-inch main display is fully 3G and Internet capable. The 300-mile range is possible (vs the Roadster's 244-mile range) because the S has 8,000 battery cells vs. 6,000 in the Roadster, the batteries have been improved in mass and volumetric performance, and there is more advanced cell chemistry in each cell, and the S has a cd of about .27 vs. the Roadster's drag coefficient of .35. On a 220V outlet, the car can be recharged in 4 hours. Option packages are being decided, with the only initial option being the battery pack. Customers will also be able to buy the 160-mile pack and rent the long range pack for a trip. They are finalizing the warranty, and expect it to be 3-4 years for the car and 7-10 years for the battery pack. They expect replacement battery packs to come in at "well under $5000" according to Elon. The quickness: the standard S will get to 60 in 5.5 to 6.0 seconds. A coming sport version will get to 60 in "well under five seconds," Musk says. The car will get a single-speed transmission. The body panels and chassis will be primarily aluminum, with a total weight of just over 4,000 pounds, about 1,200 pounds of that being battery mass. For infrastructure, Tesla is working with a government-affiliated partner to set up battery changing stations at various locations. They will be able to change the battery in 5-8 minutes, "quicker than filling up your car with gas." According to Tesla's numbers, buying a Tesla S will save you $10-$15K vs a comparably priced gas-powered sedan when gas is $4 per gallon. For an equivalent comparison, you'd have to lease a $35,000 gas-powered car. The biggest hitch: the car doesn't go into production until Q3 of 2011.
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03-26-2009, 10:58 PM	#2
SBK Curry is the pick??? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Casino cash: $10004900	Here's a bunch more images, including the interior. http://www.autobloggreen.com/photos/...s-live-reveal/
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03-26-2009, 11:05 PM	#3
Miles MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $-1537600	Looks pretty damn good. Wonder what the average cost it would add to an electricity bill to recharge the battery.
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03-26-2009, 11:07 PM	#4
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	Sweet. I'd buy one.
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03-27-2009, 01:39 AM	#8
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	Can you imagine the Hazmat Apocalypse that would entail one of these things hitting another vehicle that then caught fire? __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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03-27-2009, 01:56 AM	#9
acesn8s MVP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Here Casino cash: $10007119	Video of Tesla roadster http://jalopnik.com/5110385/top-gear...tesla-roadster __________________ Let's not take another 50 years.
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03-27-2009, 09:54 AM	#11
MagicHef The Seated Villain Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Seattle Casino cash: $550247	I am skeptical of their numbers. If you can charge it fully in 4 hours on a 220v outlet, that's about 26.4 kWh of capacity. If it can travel 300 miles on one charge, that's an average of 0.088 kWh per mile. That's the equivalent of 375 mpg in a gasoline powered car, or let's say, 10 times as efficient as a fairly fuel efficient car. Most internal combustion engines have an efficiency of around 20%, so it's impossible for an electric motor to be 10 times as efficient. __________________ With a sack in 61% of his games, SB MVP Von Miller is the most consistent pass rusher in NFL history.
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