Chiefs Gretz's take on the cuts....

Deberg_1990 · 09-06-2009, 08:05 AM

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...tml#more-10330

There really wasn’t much in 21 of the 22 roster moves the Chiefs made the last two days that would qualify as a surprise.

The exception was the release on Saturday of safety Bernard Pollard.

A veteran of 48 games in three seasons with the team and 31 starts over the past two seasons, Pollard was one of 14 moves made on Saturday to reach the NFL deadline for a roster of 53 players. Just 24 years old and a former second-round draft choice, Pollard will very quickly find work somewhere in the NFL.

But why wasn’t he wanted with the Chiefs? It’s hard to give you the straight skinny on that given that Pioli/Haley were unavailable to speak in the last two days. More than likely they wouldn’t have much to say about Pollard even should there be microphones around.

So all we can do is speculate. First, there was the play of three other safeties in the St. Louis game, while Pollard was home in Kansas City. Jon McGraw, Mike Brown and DaJuan Morgan were the best defenders on the field for the Chiefs. McGraw came back from a bad game against Seattle last weekend, while Brown got his first extensive playing time. Morgan was all over the field.

We do not know why Pollard was not practicing last week and why he wasn’t available for the game. Early in training camp he did tweak an ankle, but he did not miss a practice.
Second, there was the disagreement on the practice field back on August 26 between Pollard and defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast. Pollard was yanked from the first-team defense during a drill and he was very vocal in his unhappiness to Pendergast and eventually head coach Todd Haley.

Afterwards, Pollard wouldn’t talk about what set him off saying only: “Man, there’s just so much crap going down around here.” Pollard did say he had a conversation with Haley off the practice field and felt that everything was fine. “He didn’t let it fester, he came to me and we talked about it,” Pollard said. “I like that.”

Third, it may come down to talent, or lack of same in the eyes of the Chiefs coaches. Pollard is a hitter and always has been during his football career. However, he was not a good tackler. Pollard was prone to going for the big bang with his shoulder and not wrapping up to make sure the ball carrier was down. Given the focus of Haley and his staff on fundamentals, it’s not a surprise that habit may have hurt Pollard.

Whatever the reason, Pollard is the second starter from the ‘08 team that was released over the weekend, joining RT Damion McIntosh. At this point the only starters from last year’s team that are gone are Pollard, McIntosh, RG Adrian Jones, DE Alfonso Boone and MLB Pat Thomas.

Here’s a look at the other moves from Saturday:

ZACH THOMAS – Everyone involved was sad that Thomas didn’t get anything done during training camp and the pre-season. He was such an influence during the off-season and OTAs. But the last time he was on the field was August 6th; since then it’s been rehab for the quad or hamstring injury in his left leg.

ASHLEY LELIE – Although he did catch five passes for 95 yards in the pre-season, that all came in the second half against second and third team defenses. He might have had a chance if he’d been around all during the off-season, but Lelie didn’t show enough in his time with the Chiefs to warrant a roster spot.

RODNEY WRIGHT – For awhile during training camp, Wright was the most consistent and productive receiver on the roster. But he could not keep up that pace, and he was unable to provide anything in the way of returns, averaging 5.7 yards on three punt returns and 9.5 yards on a pair of kick returns. He also caught seven passes for 113 yards.

DEREK LOKEY – Too small to be a regular nose tackle, Lokey survived to the final cut because of his effort. At 6-1, 287 pounds he does not have the bulk to be a 3-4 nose, but he has the heart.

JACKIE BATES – College free agent out of Hampton, Bates never elevated himself out of the bottom of the roster at the highly competitive cornerback spot.

TOM CRABTREE – At no time during camp and the pre-season was Crabtree able to elevate himself out of the fourth TE spot. With former college teammate Jake O’Connell injured recently, there was a chance he could stick. But this move is an indication O’Connell must be ready to return to work.

DION GALES – Back in the spring, I would have bet money that Gales would never have made it to River Falls, let alone the final cut. He showed up as a college free agent very out of shape and he struggled through a pair of mini-camps. Gales survived by show up for training camp in shape.

BOBBY GREENWOOD – There’s a good package with this college free agent out of Alabama, but he didn’t advance fast enough to be able to stay on the roster. It would not be a surprise to see him join the practice squad, because he’s got some skills.

DARRYL HARRIS – I would expect this college free agent out of Mississippi to be on the practice squad. Harris was impressive early in camp, but he could not maintain or improve that level of performance. But he’s got good feet and more exposure to the weight room and the NFL may be enough to get him back on an active roster.

TAURUS JOHNSON – He never really showed consistent focus and performance to be an NFL receiver.

RICKY PRICE – I wouldn’t be surprised to see him brought back to the practice squad as well. He got some opportunities to see snaps at safety because of various injuries at the position. The college free agent out of Oklahoma State showed good range and athletic ability.

JAVARRIS WILLIAMS – The backfield is pretty crowded with talented players, and his chance to make the squad was going to come from beating out a Jackie Battle or Dantrell Savage. That didn’t even come close to happening, plus he didn’t provide any help in the kicking game.

LaChapelle · 09-06-2009, 08:21 AM

I wonder if there will be a police report come out about Pollard. If it was more than just bad play that pushed him off the edge of the roster.

**SAUTO** · 09-06-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

I wonder if there will be a police report come out about Pollard. If it was more than just bad play that pushed him off the edge of the roster.

HUH? i would almost bet the farm it was JUST bad play

LaChapelle · 09-06-2009, 08:27 AM

That formula I posted is one I've come to see many, many a time. Nothing personal about Pollard.

Deberg_1990 · 09-06-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

HUH? i would almost bet the farm it was JUST bad play

Exactly. What i dont get is why people are hurt over him getting cut??

Hasnt nearly everyone been complaining about his mistakes for the past 3 years??

The Chiefs saw no upside to him. Hes a finished player and he is what he is.

**SAUTO** · 09-06-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

That formula I posted is one I've come to see many, many a time.

what formula? here ive got a formula for you

no wrap-up+taking the wrong angle+slow x missed tackles and middle of the road safety= player looking for work

LaChapelle · 09-06-2009, 08:32 AM

Glad Pollard is gone. No one willing to trade even a 7th rounder for a 3 year, 24 year old starter. Is the reason for the question.

**SAUTO** · 09-06-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

Glad Pollard is gone. No one willing to trade even a 7th rounder for a 3 year, 24 year old starter. Is the reason for the question.

i think my formula spells it out for you. its one ive seen happen many a time

LaChapelle · 09-06-2009, 08:36 AM

It spells it out for you, not me.

**Scorp** · 09-06-2009, 08:37 AM

I'll bet Pollard cried like a bitch in Haley's office. "but....but.....but.....I am the Bonecrusher!"

**SAUTO** · 09-06-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

It spells it out for you, not me.

huh, so you think a player that has NEVER shown the ability ir willingness to WRAP UP, should be a safety(who by definition of the word would be your last line of defense)in the nfl?

milkman · 09-06-2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorp

I'll bet Pollard cried like a bitch in Haley's office. "but....but.....but.....I am the Bonecrusher!"

Haley's response:

"And I'm the soul crusher, now get off my football team, bitch."

LaChapelle · 09-06-2009, 08:41 AM

I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing. Find someone else for that foreplay. THE DEAL IS DONE!!11

**Scorp** · 09-06-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Haley's response:

"And I'm the soul crusher, now get off my football team, bitch."

HAHA that is outstanding!

**SAUTO** · 09-06-2009, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaChapelle

I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing. Find someone else for that foreplay. THE DEAL IS DONE!!11

what are you arguing about? why a team wouldnt trade for him? should be pretty obvious

09-06-2009, 08:05 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $254454	Gretz's take on the cuts.... http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...tml#more-10330 There really wasn’t much in 21 of the 22 roster moves the Chiefs made the last two days that would qualify as a surprise. The exception was the release on Saturday of safety Bernard Pollard. A veteran of 48 games in three seasons with the team and 31 starts over the past two seasons, Pollard was one of 14 moves made on Saturday to reach the NFL deadline for a roster of 53 players. Just 24 years old and a former second-round draft choice, Pollard will very quickly find work somewhere in the NFL. But why wasn’t he wanted with the Chiefs? It’s hard to give you the straight skinny on that given that Pioli/Haley were unavailable to speak in the last two days. More than likely they wouldn’t have much to say about Pollard even should there be microphones around. So all we can do is speculate. First, there was the play of three other safeties in the St. Louis game, while Pollard was home in Kansas City. Jon McGraw, Mike Brown and DaJuan Morgan were the best defenders on the field for the Chiefs. McGraw came back from a bad game against Seattle last weekend, while Brown got his first extensive playing time. Morgan was all over the field. We do not know why Pollard was not practicing last week and why he wasn’t available for the game. Early in training camp he did tweak an ankle, but he did not miss a practice. Second, there was the disagreement on the practice field back on August 26 between Pollard and defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast. Pollard was yanked from the first-team defense during a drill and he was very vocal in his unhappiness to Pendergast and eventually head coach Todd Haley. Afterwards, Pollard wouldn’t talk about what set him off saying only: “Man, there’s just so much crap going down around here.” Pollard did say he had a conversation with Haley off the practice field and felt that everything was fine. “He didn’t let it fester, he came to me and we talked about it,” Pollard said. “I like that.” Third, it may come down to talent, or lack of same in the eyes of the Chiefs coaches. Pollard is a hitter and always has been during his football career. However, he was not a good tackler. Pollard was prone to going for the big bang with his shoulder and not wrapping up to make sure the ball carrier was down. Given the focus of Haley and his staff on fundamentals, it’s not a surprise that habit may have hurt Pollard. Whatever the reason, Pollard is the second starter from the ‘08 team that was released over the weekend, joining RT Damion McIntosh. At this point the only starters from last year’s team that are gone are Pollard, McIntosh, RG Adrian Jones, DE Alfonso Boone and MLB Pat Thomas. Here’s a look at the other moves from Saturday: ZACH THOMAS – Everyone involved was sad that Thomas didn’t get anything done during training camp and the pre-season. He was such an influence during the off-season and OTAs. But the last time he was on the field was August 6th; since then it’s been rehab for the quad or hamstring injury in his left leg. ASHLEY LELIE – Although he did catch five passes for 95 yards in the pre-season, that all came in the second half against second and third team defenses. He might have had a chance if he’d been around all during the off-season, but Lelie didn’t show enough in his time with the Chiefs to warrant a roster spot. RODNEY WRIGHT – For awhile during training camp, Wright was the most consistent and productive receiver on the roster. But he could not keep up that pace, and he was unable to provide anything in the way of returns, averaging 5.7 yards on three punt returns and 9.5 yards on a pair of kick returns. He also caught seven passes for 113 yards. DEREK LOKEY – Too small to be a regular nose tackle, Lokey survived to the final cut because of his effort. At 6-1, 287 pounds he does not have the bulk to be a 3-4 nose, but he has the heart. JACKIE BATES – College free agent out of Hampton, Bates never elevated himself out of the bottom of the roster at the highly competitive cornerback spot. TOM CRABTREE – At no time during camp and the pre-season was Crabtree able to elevate himself out of the fourth TE spot. With former college teammate Jake O’Connell injured recently, there was a chance he could stick. But this move is an indication O’Connell must be ready to return to work. DION GALES – Back in the spring, I would have bet money that Gales would never have made it to River Falls, let alone the final cut. He showed up as a college free agent very out of shape and he struggled through a pair of mini-camps. Gales survived by show up for training camp in shape. BOBBY GREENWOOD – There’s a good package with this college free agent out of Alabama, but he didn’t advance fast enough to be able to stay on the roster. It would not be a surprise to see him join the practice squad, because he’s got some skills. DARRYL HARRIS – I would expect this college free agent out of Mississippi to be on the practice squad. Harris was impressive early in camp, but he could not maintain or improve that level of performance. But he’s got good feet and more exposure to the weight room and the NFL may be enough to get him back on an active roster. TAURUS JOHNSON – He never really showed consistent focus and performance to be an NFL receiver. RICKY PRICE – I wouldn’t be surprised to see him brought back to the practice squad as well. He got some opportunities to see snaps at safety because of various injuries at the position. The college free agent out of Oklahoma State showed good range and athletic ability. JAVARRIS WILLIAMS – The backfield is pretty crowded with talented players, and his chance to make the squad was going to come from beating out a Jackie Battle or Dantrell Savage. That didn’t even come close to happening, plus he didn’t provide any help in the kicking game.
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09-06-2009, 08:21 AM	#2
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	I wonder if there will be a police report come out about Pollard. If it was more than just bad play that pushed him off the edge of the roster.
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09-06-2009, 08:27 AM	#4
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	That formula I posted is one I've come to see many, many a time. Nothing personal about Pollard.
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09-06-2009, 08:32 AM	#7
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Glad Pollard is gone. No one willing to trade even a 7th rounder for a 3 year, 24 year old starter. Is the reason for the question.
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09-06-2009, 08:36 AM	#9
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	It spells it out for you, not me.
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09-06-2009, 08:37 AM	#10
Scorp Whiskey Tango Foxtrot OVER! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hell Casino cash: $6629000	I'll bet Pollard cried like a bitch in Haley's office. "but....but.....but.....I am the Bonecrusher!" __________________
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09-06-2009, 08:41 AM	#13
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of arguing. Find someone else for that foreplay. THE DEAL IS DONE!!11
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