Chiefs Interesting Weis article

FringeNC · 01-04-2011, 12:03 PM

Sorry, no link, but I got this emailed to me by a ND fan, so most likely it came from a ND beat writer:

The Weis Factor

It's official now. Charlie Weis, the former Notre Dame head football coach, will leave his offensive coordinator post with the resurgent Kansas City Chiefs (10-6) once their playoff run truncates and jump to the University of Florida.

Not only will Weis be joining the staff as offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach, but also jumping on board new Gator head coach Will Muschamp's coaching lineup is Frank Verducci - Weis' offensive line coach at ND in his final season there (2009) - and likely Charlie Weis Jr. as a student intern coach.

The intrigue as it relates to Brian Kelly's football universe is Weis as a recruiter. No school poached Weis' recruiting classes at ND from 2005-09 more painstakingly and more painfully than Florida under Urban Meyer.

And now?

“The irony is that Charlie was very upset that Greg Mattison was badmouthing Notre Dame,” Lemming said of Mattison, a longtime defensive coach and lead recruiter at ND who joined Meyer's staff at Florida in 2005.

“I don't think Charlie will badmouth Notre Dame, though. He's got too much class for that. He really didn't badmouth other schools when he was at Notre Dame. I see him simply pointing out the advantages of playing at Florida in a Weis pro-style offense.

“The move is fantastic for Florida. He's a super-big name and an offensive guru type. He's also one of the great recruiters in college football. He had some weak spots on his recruiting staff, but he, himself, was very good.”

The Muschamp-Weis union actually could have happened at ND. In the days before Weis was officially fired by his alma mater late in November in 2009, Weis did pitch the idea of ND hiring Muschamp and then staying on for the 2010 season - and the 2010 season only - as Irish offensive coordinator, according to two unnamed sources close to Weis and the process.

According to the sources, Irish athletic director Jack Swarbrick listened to the idea with an open mind, but the concept lost traction before it gained much momentum.

Notre Dame and Florida. both of which went 8-5 this season, don't appear on each other's future schedules. But wouldn't it be just like the football gods - and ESPN - to push them together in, say, the Sugar Bowl next January?

Molitoth · 01-04-2011, 12:08 PM

I no longer care about Weis. He is dead to me.

JD10367 · 01-04-2011, 12:11 PM

Given everything we now know about the situation:

- the probable friction between Weis and Haley
- the fact that Weis's kid was planning to go to TX and play under Muschamp
- the fact that Weis's kid will now follow Muschamp to FL
- the fact that Weis has a house in FL
- the fact that Weis probably took the KC job as a temp-thing anyway
- the fact that Weis and Muschamp are apparently friends

I guess the move to Florida makes more sense for Weis now than it first seemed. Still not sure on the timing of it; as I said elsewhere, it's possible that they had no control over that. I'm sure it wasn't leaked out by Weis or the Chiefs; I'm sure they would've preferred to keep it totally under wraps until after the Chiefs finished their season.

01-04-2011, 12:03 PM
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $-1613986	Interesting Weis article Sorry, no link, but I got this emailed to me by a ND fan, so most likely it came from a ND beat writer: The Weis Factor It's official now. Charlie Weis, the former Notre Dame head football coach, will leave his offensive coordinator post with the resurgent Kansas City Chiefs (10-6) once their playoff run truncates and jump to the University of Florida. Not only will Weis be joining the staff as offensive coordinator/quarterbacks coach, but also jumping on board new Gator head coach Will Muschamp's coaching lineup is Frank Verducci - Weis' offensive line coach at ND in his final season there (2009) - and likely Charlie Weis Jr. as a student intern coach. The intrigue as it relates to Brian Kelly's football universe is Weis as a recruiter. No school poached Weis' recruiting classes at ND from 2005-09 more painstakingly and more painfully than Florida under Urban Meyer. And now? “The irony is that Charlie was very upset that Greg Mattison was badmouthing Notre Dame,” Lemming said of Mattison, a longtime defensive coach and lead recruiter at ND who joined Meyer's staff at Florida in 2005. “I don't think Charlie will badmouth Notre Dame, though. He's got too much class for that. He really didn't badmouth other schools when he was at Notre Dame. I see him simply pointing out the advantages of playing at Florida in a Weis pro-style offense. “The move is fantastic for Florida. He's a super-big name and an offensive guru type. He's also one of the great recruiters in college football. He had some weak spots on his recruiting staff, but he, himself, was very good.” The Muschamp-Weis union actually could have happened at ND. In the days before Weis was officially fired by his alma mater late in November in 2009, Weis did pitch the idea of ND hiring Muschamp and then staying on for the 2010 season - and the 2010 season only - as Irish offensive coordinator, according to two unnamed sources close to Weis and the process. According to the sources, Irish athletic director Jack Swarbrick listened to the idea with an open mind, but the concept lost traction before it gained much momentum. Notre Dame and Florida. both of which went 8-5 this season, don't appear on each other's future schedules. But wouldn't it be just like the football gods - and ESPN - to push them together in, say, the Sugar Bowl next January?
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Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $244969	I no longer care about Weis. He is dead to me.
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JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	Given everything we now know about the situation: - the probable friction between Weis and Haley - the fact that Weis's kid was planning to go to TX and play under Muschamp - the fact that Weis's kid will now follow Muschamp to FL - the fact that Weis has a house in FL - the fact that Weis probably took the KC job as a temp-thing anyway - the fact that Weis and Muschamp are apparently friends I guess the move to Florida makes more sense for Weis now than it first seemed. Still not sure on the timing of it; as I said elsewhere, it's possible that they had no control over that. I'm sure it wasn't leaked out by Weis or the Chiefs; I'm sure they would've preferred to keep it totally under wraps until after the Chiefs finished their season.
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