Pioli's Big Board

ForeverChiefs58 · 02-11-2011, 03:36 PM

Pioli's Big Board
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 24, 2011 9:02 PM CST

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This is Mocking Dan's Top 100 of his actual Top 200. If the Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli was parsing Dan's list from www.mockingthedraft.com who would we, could we, and should we look at? Lets dissect the best 2011 NFL Draft talent by scheme, then by need, then we will have a good criteria in place for the first three rounds of the Chiefs Draft. We have picks number 21, 55, and 88 around 122, 150, 154, 186, and 218 (ballparkish) as we sit today. So lets go

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Hammock Parties · 02-11-2011, 03:38 PM

Justin Houston FTW.

**Tribal Warfare** · 02-11-2011, 03:55 PM

My gut feeling is it's going to be Phil Taylor , because Pioli's philosophy of DL/OL in general.

BPA would be Houston though.

Chiefnj2 · 02-11-2011, 04:04 PM

He eliminates Von Miller as not fitting KC's scheme?

The author apparently doesn't have much of a clue.

AndChiefs · 02-11-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

He eliminates Von Miller as not fitting KC's scheme?

The author apparently doesn't have much of a clue.

Wow took the words straight out of my mouth. Von Miller played in a 3-4 at A&M and would be a great fit.

That being said...he certainly belonged in the will likely be picked before #21 column.

**cabletech94** · 02-11-2011, 04:13 PM

76. Luke Stocker | 6'6, 240 pounds | TE | Tennessee - interviewed By Chiefs

uh-oh.

Dante84 · 02-11-2011, 04:16 PM

If someone who knows what they are doing put this together, it would be really great.

Then you rank the remaining candidates based on a combination of talent, leadership ability, stats, measurables, the talent they faced in college.... anything I'm leaving out?

You would have a legitimate "Chiefs board" that might resemble the real one.

milkman · 02-11-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

My gut feeling is it's going to be Phil Taylor , because Pioli's philosophy of DL/OL in general.

BPA would be Houston though.

So, you're expanding your whipering skills to Scott Pioli now?

Stick to what you've already proven your idiocy on.

No need to further prove your idiocy.

ToxSocks · 02-11-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

He eliminates Von Miller as not fitting KC's scheme?

The author apparently doesn't have much of a clue.

Pretty much right where i stopped reading.

Hammock Parties · 02-11-2011, 05:52 PM

Von Miller doesn't fit our scheme because the NE 3-4 typically employs bigger OLB. I doubt the Chiefs pick him. He's 243 lbs.

**Tribal Warfare** · 02-11-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ClayWhit

Von Miller doesn't fit our scheme because the NE 3-4 typically employs bigger OLB. I doubt the Chiefs pick him. He's 243 lbs.

238 at the Senior Bowl

**the Talking Can** · 02-11-2011, 06:08 PM

eh, it's a smart way to look at the players even if he's wrong about Miller...

but we really have no clue who they'll draft...a CB or RB in the first 3 rounds could happen

WebGem · 02-11-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

17. Mike Pouncey | 6'5, 320 pounds | G/C | Florida

MP FTW

**DeezNutz** · 02-11-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WebGem

MP FTW

Most everything I've seen and read indicate that he'll be a guard, which we don't need.

milkman · 02-11-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Most everything I've seen and read indicate that he'll be a guard, which we don't need.

I like Jon Asomoah, and I like what Ryan Lilja brings to the table in terms of mobility.

I think Asomoah can bring some of that same mobility, and he can get stronger, to be a more effective guard in the power run game in short yardage situations than we have at this point, but Lija is maxed out in that.

I wouldn't use a first round pick on a guard, but we can certainly improve.

02-11-2011, 03:36 PM
ForeverChiefs58 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $835326	Pioli's Big Board Pioli's Big Board by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 24, 2011 9:02 PM CST 210 comments Email Print. This is Mocking Dan's Top 100 of his actual Top 200. If the Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli was parsing Dan's list from www.mockingthedraft.com who would we, could we, and should we look at? Lets dissect the best 2011 NFL Draft talent by scheme, then by need, then we will have a good criteria in place for the first three rounds of the Chiefs Draft. We have picks number 21, 55, and 88 around 122, 150, 154, 186, and 218 (ballparkish) as we sit today. So lets go Lets eliminate the 4-3 defensive players and the Power Scheme blockers. 3. Da'Quan Bowers \| 6'4, 280 pounds \| DE \| Clemson * 4. Nick Fairley \| 6'5, 298 pounds \| DT \| Auburn * 10. Cameron Heyward \| 6'6, 288 pounds \| DE \| Ohio State 12. Adrian Clayborn \| 6'3, 282 pounds \| DE \| Iowa 13. Stephen Paea \| 6'1, 295 pounds \| DT \| Oregon State 22. Greg Jones \| 5'11, 228 pounds \| MLB \| Michigan State 24. Jurrell Casey \| 6'1, 305 pounds \| DT \| Southern California * 32. Marvin Austin \| 6'3, 305 pounds \| DT \| North Carolina 35. Von Miller \| 6'3, 240 pounds \| OLB \| Texas A&M 36. Gabe Carimi \| 6'7, 315 pounds \| OT \| Wisconsin 39. Corey Liuget \| 6'3, 300 pounds \| DT \| Illinois * 43. Drake Nevis \| 6'2, 285 pounds \| DT \| LSU 44. Rodney Hudson \| 6'2, 283 pounds \| G \| Florida State 48. Tyron Smith \| 6'6, 285 pounds \| OT \| Southern California * 52. Bruce Carter \| 6'3, 230 pounds \| OLB \| North Carolina 58. Mason Foster \| 6'2, 240 pounds \| OLB \| Washington 64. Quan Sturdivant \| 6'2, 235 pounds \| MLB \| North Carolina 66. Jarvis Jenkins \| 6'4, 305 pounds \| DT \| Clemson 78. Dontay Moch \| 6'1, 240 pounds \| DE/OLB \| Nevada 90. Lee Ziemba \| 6'8, 310 pounds \| OT \| Auburn -------------------------------------------------------------------- Now let's eliminate those that are probably not falling to Pick # 21 1. A.J. Green \| 6'4, 200 pounds \| WR \| Georgia * 2. Patrick Peterson \| 6'1, 222 pounds \| CB \| LSU * 5. Julio Jones \| 6'4, 210 pounds \| WR \| Alabama * 6. Prince Amukamara \| 6'1, 200 pounds \| CB \| Nebraska 7. Marcell Dareus \| 6'3, 304 pounds \| DT/DE \| Alabama * 14. Cameron Jordan \| 6'4, 285 pounds \| DE \| California - interviewed By Chiefs --------------------------------------------------------------------- Now let's eliminate those positions we have good depth in or are probably not looking for a 1st-3rd rounder in. 11. Mark Ingram \| 5'10, 215 pounds \| RB \| Alabama * 18. Mikel Leshoure \| 6'0, 230 pounds \| RB \| Illinois * 21. Blaine Gabbert \| 6'5, 240 pounds \| QB \| Missouri * 25. Cam Newton \| 6'6, 246 pounds \| QB \| Auburn * 26. Kyle Rudolph \| 6'6, 265 pounds \| TE \| Notre Dame * 34. Ryan Williams \| 5'10, 210 pounds \| RB \| Virginia Tech ** 40. Ryan Mallett \| 6'7, 238 pounds \| QB \| Arkansas * 47. Jake Locker \| 6'3, 226 pounds \| QB \| Washington 61. Tyler Sash \| 6'1, 210 pounds \| SS \| Iowa * 65. DeAndre McDaniel \| 6'0, 212 pounds \| SS \| Clemson 71. Jordan Todman \| 5'9, 190 pounds \| RB \| Connecticut * 95. Ahmad Black \| 5'9, 185 pounds \| SS \| Florida ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Now let's break out what is left by position groups: NT, 3-4 DE's and Tweener 3-4 OLB's 8. Robert Quinn \| 6'5, 265 pounds \| DE \| North Carolina * 9. Aldon Smith \| 6'4, 258 pounds \| DE \| Missouri ** 15. Justin Houston \| 6'3, 254 pounds \| DE/OLB \| Georgia * 23. J.J. Watt \| 6'6, 292 pounds \| DE/DT \| Wisconsin * 29. Allen Bailey \| 6'4, 285 pounds \| DT/DE \| Miami (Fla.) 31. Akeem Ayers \| 6'5, 254 pounds \| OLB \| UCLA * 33. Ryan Kerrigan \| 6'4, 255 pounds \| OLB \| Purdue 37. Muhammad Wilkerson \| 6'5, 305 pounds \| DT \| Temple * 73. Pernell McPhee \| 6'4, 285 pounds \| DE \| Mississippi State 75. Mark Herzlich \| 6'4, 248 pounds \| OLB \| Boston College 77. Phil Taylor \| 6'4, 355 pounds \| DT \| Baylor 80. Sione Fua \| 6'2, 307 pounds \| DT \| Stanford 86. Jeremy Beal \| 6'3, 261 pounds \| DE \| Oklahoma 89. Jerrell Powe \| 6'2, 340 pounds \| DT \| Mississippi 93. Lawrence Guy \| 6'5, 300 pounds \| DT \| Arizona State * 96. Sam Acho \| 6'3, 260 pounds \| DE \| Texas 98. Jabaal Sheard \| 6'4, 260 pounds \| DE \| Pittsburgh 99. Christian Ballard \| 6'5, 285 pounds \| DT/DE \| Iowa - interviewed By Chiefs Cornerbacks and Free Safeties 16. Brandon Harris \| 5'11, 195 pounds \| CB \| Miami (Fla.) * 30. Jimmy Smith \| 6'2, 205 pounds \| CB \| Colorado 38. Aaron Williams \| 6'1, 195 pounds \| CB \| Texas * 45. Rahim Moore \| 6'1, 195 pounds \| FS \| UCLA * 50. Johnny Patrick \| 6'0, 190 pounds \| CB \| Louisville 51. Quinton Carter \| 6'1, 195 pounds \| FS \| Oklahoma - interviewed By Chiefs 53. Brandon Burton \| 6'0, 185 pounds \| CB \| Utah * 54. Deunta Williams \| 6'2, 210 pounds \| FS \| North Carolina 59. Jaiquawn Jarrett \| 6'2, 202 pounds \| FS \| Temple 67. Ras-I Dowling \| 6'2, 200 pounds \| CB \| Virginia 68. Robert Sands \| 6'4, 221 pounds \| FS \| West Virgnia * 74. Curtis Brown \| 6'0, 184 pounds \| CB \| Texas 79. Davon House \| 6'0, 190 pounds \| CB \| New Mexico State 91. Tejay Johnson \| 6'1, 212 pounds \| FS \| TCU Eric Haag SS Nebraska - interviewed By Chiefs Offensive Linemen 17. Mike Pouncey \| 6'5, 320 pounds \| G/C \| Florida 20. Derek Sherrod \| 6'6, 300 pounds \| OT \| Mississippi State 28. Anthony Costanzo \| 6'7, 308 pounds \| OT \| Boston College - interviewed By Chiefs 41. Nate Solder \| 6'8, 305 pounds \| OT \| Colorado 46. Stefen Wisniewski \| 6'3, 302 pounds \| C \| Penn State 63. Kristofer O'Dowd \| 6'5, 300 pounds \| C \| Southern California - interviewed By Chiefs 70. DeMarcus Love \| 6'5, 315 pounds \| OT \| Arkansas 72. Danny Watkins \| 6'4, 310 pounds \| OT \| Baylor - 26 year old rookie offensive lineman 127. Jason Pinkston \| 6'4, 305 pounds \| OT \| Pittsburgh - interviewed By Chiefs 195. Stephen Schilling \| 6'5, 304 pounds \| G/OT \| Michigan - interviewed By Chiefs Receivers 19. Jonathan Baldwin \| 6'5, 220 pounds \| WR \| Pittsburgh * 27. Torrey Smith \| 6'1, 205 pounds \| WR \| Maryland * 55. Jerrell Jernigan \| 5'9, 185 pounds \| WR/KR \| Troy 56. D.J. Williams \| 6'2, 250 pounds \| TE \| Arkansas 57. Ronald Johnson \| 6'0, 190 pounds \| WR \| Southern California 60. Randall Cobb \| 5'11, 190 pounds \| WR/ATH \| Kentucky * 62. Titus Young \| 5'11, 170 pounds \| WR \| Boise State 76. Luke Stocker \| 6'6, 240 pounds \| TE \| Tennessee - interviewed By Chiefs 82. Leonard Hankerson \| 6'3, 215 pounds \| WR \| Miami (Fla.) 84. Weslye Saunders \| 6'5, 280 pounds \| TE \| South Carolina 92. Niles Paul \| 6'1, 220 pounds \| WR \| Nebraska 94. Greg Little \| 6'3, 210 pounds \| WR \| North Carolina 97. Vincent Brown \| 6'0, 195 pounds \| WR \| San Diego State ### Jock Sanders 5'7 179 WR West Virginia - interviewed By Chiefs ### Dwayne Harris 6'0 205 WR East Carolina - interviewed By Chiefs Inside Linebackers 42. Nate Irving \| 6'1, 235 pounds \| MLB \| North Carolina State 49. Martez Wilson \| 6'4, 250 pounds \| MLB \| Illinois * 100. Kelvin Sheppard \| 6'3, 240 pounds \| MLB \| LSU Running backs and Quarterbacks 69. DeMarco Murray \| 6'1, 214 pounds \| RB \| Oklahoma 81. Pat Devlin \| 6'4, 220 pounds \| QB \| Delaware 83. Roy Helu \| 6'0, 215 pounds \| RB \| Nebraska 85. Noel Devine \| 5'8, 176 pounds \| RB \| West Virginia - interviewed By Chiefs 87. Christian Ponder \| 6'2, 219 pounds \| QB \| Florida State 88. Shane Vereen \| 5'10, 199 pounds \| RB \| California * 110. Bilal Powell \| 6'0, 215 pounds \| RB \| Louisville - interviewed By Chiefs I can mark off players from the Chiefs Big Board that you all deem unworthy of consideration for the top 3 picks Riser and Sinkers from Draftcountdown blogs Scott Wright Go Chiefs
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1010478	Von Miller doesn't fit our scheme because the NE 3-4 typically employs bigger OLB. I doubt the Chiefs pick him. He's 243 lbs. __________________ Chiefs game films
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the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9362208	eh, it's a smart way to look at the players even if he's wrong about Miller... but we really have no clue who they'll draft...a CB or RB in the first 3 rounds could happen __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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