12/13/11 Nightfyre Mock Draft

Nightfyre · 12-13-2011, 12:34 PM

Assumptions:
1) We are able to move up to pick third without compromising any of this year's selections (for simplicity's sake.)
2) We re-sign Bowe and Carr
3) We sign Paul Soliai and Ben Grubbs to a five year deal.
4) We sign Dan Koppen to a two-year deal.

1) Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
6'2" 220 lbs.
The number two QB on my notional big board. The Chiefs likely need to move up to secure him. Excellent poise, arm strength, mobility and accuracy. He is terrific about setting his feet. Concerns include pre-snap reads, footwork from under center and durability.

2) Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama
6'4" 260 lbs.
A cerebral and talented linebacker to put next to DJ. He also is well-versed in Crennel's system having played at Alabama under Nick Saban. Call's the defense for Alabama. He is as ready-to-play as they come and has the potential to be an impact player for the Chiefs.

3) William Vlachos, C, Alabama
6'1" 295 lbs.
Vlachos anchored the Alabama O-line for Trent Richardson. He is an athletic, pulling center with the strength to hold up at the point of attack. A perfect fit for our current blocking scheme. Hardworker, student of the game type by all reports.

4) Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi State
5'11" 215 lbs.
I can't claim to know a lot about Ballard. But from what I have read, he is a three-down back who could be the workhorse complement to Charles.

5) Andrew Datko, OT, Florida State
6'6" 321 lbs.
Shoulder concerns have dropped this once second round prospect to a late round selection. Evidently he had shoulder surgery that "didn't take" the first go-around. He is a boom or bust fashion pick. When he did play, he had trouble handling speed rushers.

6) Tony Dye, SS, UCLA
5'11" 204
Another player whose stock has been adversely impacted by an injury riddled season. Dye suffered a neck injury followed by a leg injury this season. He is good in run support and adequate in coverage and should back-up Berry. He is another boom or bust type selection given the injury history

7) Elvis Akpla, WR, Montana State
6'1" 190 lbs.
Call it a homer selection, but I promise this guy will play on Sundays. If you watched Montana State get pummeled by Sam Houston on Saturday (the 10th) on ESPN, you would have gotten a taste for his circus-like catching capabilities. This guy has been a play maker for Montana State all year both with terrific catches and good field vision and RAC capabilities. I don't know that we have won a game without a big play from Akpla. Bonus #1, he plays special teams well. Bonus #2, he is a speedy guy. He transfered from Oregon after they ruled that his track scholarship would still count as a football scholarship if he played there. Bonus #3, he made Trumaine Johnson, a second round DB prospect from the University of Montana, look like he was wearing clown shoes.

O.city · 12-13-2011, 01:19 PM

If you are bringing in Grubbs and Koppen you don't need a C in round three. With Soliai, you don't need to pick up a NT.

After Griffin or Barkley in the first we would need to just select best player available IMO.

Nightfyre · 12-13-2011, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

If you are bringing in Grubbs and Koppen you don't need a C in round three. With Soliai, you don't need to pick up a NT.

After Griffin or Barkley in the first we would need to just select best player available IMO.

Koppen will be brought in as depth and a veteran presence on the o-line. Grubbs allows us to use Hudson as guard/center depth. Vlachos will need a year of development before he is ready to start, but ultimately will fill the center hole on a long-term basis. Hudson is damn good guard depth.

Also, I didn't draft a NT.

O.city · 12-13-2011, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Koppen will be brought in as depth and a veteran presence on the o-line. Grubbs allows us to use Hudson as guard/center depth. Vlachos will need a year of development before he is ready to start, but ultimately will fill the center hole on a long-term basis. Hudson is damn good guard depth.

Also, I didn't draft a NT.

I like Hudson at G but him at C with Grubbs at G is a great line setup. Pick up a RT and it's good to go.

I was saying the NT thing more based on not having to look for one and just going BPA.

Nightfyre · 12-13-2011, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

I like Hudson at G but him at C with Grubbs at G is a great line setup. Pick up a RT and it's good to go.

I was saying the NT thing more based on not having to look for one and just going BPA.

Eh. you could swap Vlachos for a Mike Adams or Ricky Wagner and I wouldn't be offended.

O.city · 12-13-2011, 02:37 PM

Night thanks for talking draft on here with me. No one really comes to the draft lounge very often.

O.city · 12-13-2011, 02:39 PM

Round 1

Options:
QB Matt Barkley, USC
QB Landry Jones, Oklahoma
QB Robert Griffin III, Baylor
RB Trent Richardson, Alabama
WR Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State
OT Jonathan Martin, Stanford
OT Riley Reiff, Iowa
OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama
ILB Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State
CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama

Round 2

Options:
RB Montee Ball, Wisconsin
WR Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma
OT DJ Fluker, Alabama
OT Matt Reynolds, BYU
NT Josh Chapman, Alabama
NT Alameda Ta'amu, Washington
DE Derek Wolfe, Cincinnati
ILB Dont'a Hightower, Alabama
CB Casey Hayward, Vanderbilt
CB Cliff Harris, Oregon
CB Chase Minnifield, Virginia
CB Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
FS Eddie Whitley, Virginia Tech

Round 3

Options:
QB Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M
QB Geno Smith, West Virginia
RB Christine Michael, Texas A&M
RB David Wilson, Virginia Tech
RB Chris Polk, Washington
WR Kendall Wright, Baylor
WR T.Y. Hilton, Florida International
TE Coby Fleener, Stanford
OT Nate Potter, Boise State
OG Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin
C William Vlachos, Alabama
NT Dontari Poe, Memphis
DE Kheeston Randall, Texas
ILB D.J. Holt, California
CB Desmond Trufant, Washington
CB Coryell Judie, Texas A&M
CB Keith Tandy, West Virginia

Round 4

Options:
RB Doug Martin, Boise State
TE Orson Charles, Georgia
OT Levy Adcock, Oklahoma State
OT Bob Massie, Ole Miss
OT Tanner Hawkinson, Kansas
OG Ryan Miller, Colorado
OG Lonnie Edwards, Texas Tech
OLB Chase Thomas, Stanford
DE Devon Still, Penn State
ILB Kevin Reddick, North Carolina
CB Cameron Chism, Maryland
S Winston Guy Jr., Kentucky

Round 5

Options:
QB Kirk Cousins, Michigan State
RB Marc Tyler, USC
WR AJ Jenkins, Illinois
OT Blake DeChristopher, Virginia Tech
OT Mike Ryan, Connecticut
OG Stephen Good, Oklahoma
DE Kendall Reyes, Connecticut
DE Billy Winn, Boise State
CB DeQuan Menzie, Alabama
SS Tavon Wilson, Illinois

Round 6

Options:
QB Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State
RB Vick Ballard, Mississippi State
TE Michael Egnew, Missouri
OT Zebrie Sanders, Florida State
C Ben Habern, Oklahoma
NT T.J. Barnes, Georgia Tech
OLB Bruce Irvin, West Virginia
CB Trevin Wade, Arizona
CB Jamell Fleming, Oklahoma

Round 7

Options:
QB Kellen Moore, Boise State
QB Case Keenum, Houston
RB Tauren Poole, Tennessee
OT Andrew Datko, Florida State
OT Josh Oglesby, Wisconsin
OG Jaymes Brooks, Virginia Tech
C Grant Garner, Oklahoma State
C Moe Petrus, Connecticut
OLB Mychal Kendricks, Califonia
ILB Chris Galippo, USC
FS Trenton Robinson, Michigan State

Here is a little somethign we can look at for players.

O.city · 12-13-2011, 02:39 PM

I woudlnt mind David Wilson or Chris Polk in the third.

Nightfyre · 12-13-2011, 02:42 PM

Well, if Tannehill is there in the third, I see no problem drafting another QB. I was thinking Kirk Cousins might also be a good pickup in the fourth or fifth. Purge this team of Cassel and let Orton walk for the comp pick. Three young QBs competing for the job could be fun to watch.

aturnis · 12-13-2011, 06:52 PM

O. City, shame to see that you have Ty Hilton as an option in the third, but not Marvin McNutt... McNutt has fantastic hands, size, adequate speed and has been consistently productive throughout his career. Fantastic after the catch.

Also, I don't think Upshaw lasts until our second unless we're trading up...

O.city · 12-13-2011, 08:23 PM

Sorry aturnis. I didn't put this together I got it from another thread.

Agree that I don't think Upshaw makes it to the second. He is an OLB in a 34. Could see him ending up in Pittsburgh.

O.city · 12-13-2011, 09:08 PM

BTW I bolded my wanna be picks above.

Not only would they reenergize the fan base as there is a heisman winner and heisman finalist in there they would make this team better.

aturnis · 12-14-2011, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

Sorry aturnis. I didn't put this together I got it from another thread.

Agree that I don't think Upshaw makes it to the second. He is an OLB in a 34. Could see him ending up in Pittsburgh.

Or picked at 32 to the Packers at the latest.

spanky 52 · 12-14-2011, 06:25 AM

I don't see Baltimore letting Grubbs go in FA. I like the idea of going after Soliai from Miami. I'd also go after C Myers from Houston. He, Williams and Foster are all eligible for FA and i don't see them signing all three.

I'm not going to get my hopes up for a 1st round QB but we'll see. I like RB Polk in the second and WR Wright in the third. Somehow they have to get a new RT.

Would like to see the Chief's play Hudson, Powe, Stanzi and maybe even a little Mims these last three games to see what they've got.

Dexter Manley · 12-14-2011, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis

O. City, shame to see that you have Ty Hilton as an option in the third, but not Marvin McNutt... McNutt has fantastic hands, size, adequate speed and has been consistently productive throughout his career. Fantastic after the catch.

Also, I don't think Upshaw lasts until our second unless we're trading up...

For a Chief offense with a weak armed QB, McNutt is a good selection.

Hilton is really really fast, but we would need a strong armed QB to exploit that...

12-13-2011, 12:34 PM
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $1358849	12/13/11 Nightfyre Mock Draft Assumptions: 1) We are able to move up to pick third without compromising any of this year's selections (for simplicity's sake.) 2) We re-sign Bowe and Carr 3) We sign Paul Soliai and Ben Grubbs to a five year deal. 4) We sign Dan Koppen to a two-year deal. 1) Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor 6'2" 220 lbs. The number two QB on my notional big board. The Chiefs likely need to move up to secure him. Excellent poise, arm strength, mobility and accuracy. He is terrific about setting his feet. Concerns include pre-snap reads, footwork from under center and durability. 2) Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama 6'4" 260 lbs. A cerebral and talented linebacker to put next to DJ. He also is well-versed in Crennel's system having played at Alabama under Nick Saban. Call's the defense for Alabama. He is as ready-to-play as they come and has the potential to be an impact player for the Chiefs. 3) William Vlachos, C, Alabama 6'1" 295 lbs. Vlachos anchored the Alabama O-line for Trent Richardson. He is an athletic, pulling center with the strength to hold up at the point of attack. A perfect fit for our current blocking scheme. Hardworker, student of the game type by all reports. 4) Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi State 5'11" 215 lbs. I can't claim to know a lot about Ballard. But from what I have read, he is a three-down back who could be the workhorse complement to Charles. 5) Andrew Datko, OT, Florida State 6'6" 321 lbs. Shoulder concerns have dropped this once second round prospect to a late round selection. Evidently he had shoulder surgery that "didn't take" the first go-around. He is a boom or bust fashion pick. When he did play, he had trouble handling speed rushers. 6) Tony Dye, SS, UCLA 5'11" 204 Another player whose stock has been adversely impacted by an injury riddled season. Dye suffered a neck injury followed by a leg injury this season. He is good in run support and adequate in coverage and should back-up Berry. He is another boom or bust type selection given the injury history 7) Elvis Akpla, WR, Montana State 6'1" 190 lbs. Call it a homer selection, but I promise this guy will play on Sundays. If you watched Montana State get pummeled by Sam Houston on Saturday (the 10th) on ESPN, you would have gotten a taste for his circus-like catching capabilities. This guy has been a play maker for Montana State all year both with terrific catches and good field vision and RAC capabilities. I don't know that we have won a game without a big play from Akpla. Bonus #1, he plays special teams well. Bonus #2, he is a speedy guy. He transfered from Oregon after they ruled that his track scholarship would still count as a football scholarship if he played there. Bonus #3, he made Trumaine Johnson, a second round DB prospect from the University of Montana, look like he was wearing clown shoes.
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12-13-2011, 02:37 PM	#6
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12-13-2011, 02:39 PM	#7
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	Round 1 Options: QB Matt Barkley, USC QB Landry Jones, Oklahoma QB Robert Griffin III, Baylor RB Trent Richardson, Alabama WR Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State OT Jonathan Martin, Stanford OT Riley Reiff, Iowa OLB Courtney Upshaw, Alabama ILB Vontaze Burfict, Arizona State CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Alabama Round 2 Options: RB Montee Ball, Wisconsin WR Ryan Broyles, Oklahoma OT DJ Fluker, Alabama OT Matt Reynolds, BYU NT Josh Chapman, Alabama NT Alameda Ta'amu, Washington DE Derek Wolfe, Cincinnati ILB Dont'a Hightower, Alabama CB Casey Hayward, Vanderbilt CB Cliff Harris, Oregon CB Chase Minnifield, Virginia CB Xavier Rhodes, Florida State FS Eddie Whitley, Virginia Tech Round 3 Options: QB Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M QB Geno Smith, West Virginia RB Christine Michael, Texas A&M RB David Wilson, Virginia Tech RB Chris Polk, Washington WR Kendall Wright, Baylor WR T.Y. Hilton, Florida International TE Coby Fleener, Stanford OT Nate Potter, Boise State OG Kevin Zeitler, Wisconsin C William Vlachos, Alabama NT Dontari Poe, Memphis DE Kheeston Randall, Texas ILB D.J. Holt, California CB Desmond Trufant, Washington CB Coryell Judie, Texas A&M CB Keith Tandy, West Virginia Round 4 Options: RB Doug Martin, Boise State TE Orson Charles, Georgia OT Levy Adcock, Oklahoma State OT Bob Massie, Ole Miss OT Tanner Hawkinson, Kansas OG Ryan Miller, Colorado OG Lonnie Edwards, Texas Tech OLB Chase Thomas, Stanford DE Devon Still, Penn State ILB Kevin Reddick, North Carolina CB Cameron Chism, Maryland S Winston Guy Jr., Kentucky Round 5 Options: QB Kirk Cousins, Michigan State RB Marc Tyler, USC WR AJ Jenkins, Illinois OT Blake DeChristopher, Virginia Tech OT Mike Ryan, Connecticut OG Stephen Good, Oklahoma DE Kendall Reyes, Connecticut DE Billy Winn, Boise State CB DeQuan Menzie, Alabama SS Tavon Wilson, Illinois Round 6 Options: QB Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State RB Vick Ballard, Mississippi State TE Michael Egnew, Missouri OT Zebrie Sanders, Florida State C Ben Habern, Oklahoma NT T.J. Barnes, Georgia Tech OLB Bruce Irvin, West Virginia CB Trevin Wade, Arizona CB Jamell Fleming, Oklahoma Round 7 Options: QB Kellen Moore, Boise State QB Case Keenum, Houston RB Tauren Poole, Tennessee OT Andrew Datko, Florida State OT Josh Oglesby, Wisconsin OG Jaymes Brooks, Virginia Tech C Grant Garner, Oklahoma State C Moe Petrus, Connecticut OLB Mychal Kendricks, Califonia ILB Chris Galippo, USC FS Trenton Robinson, Michigan State Here is a little somethign we can look at for players. Last edited by O.city; 12-13-2011 at 09:07 PM..
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12-13-2011, 02:39 PM	#8
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	I woudlnt mind David Wilson or Chris Polk in the third.
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12-13-2011, 02:42 PM	#9
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $1358849	Well, if Tannehill is there in the third, I see no problem drafting another QB. I was thinking Kirk Cousins might also be a good pickup in the fourth or fifth. Purge this team of Cassel and let Orton walk for the comp pick. Three young QBs competing for the job could be fun to watch.
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12-13-2011, 01:19 PM	#2
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	If you are bringing in Grubbs and Koppen you don't need a C in round three. With Soliai, you don't need to pick up a NT. After Griffin or Barkley in the first we would need to just select best player available IMO.
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12-13-2011, 06:52 PM	#10
aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	O. City, shame to see that you have Ty Hilton as an option in the third, but not Marvin McNutt... McNutt has fantastic hands, size, adequate speed and has been consistently productive throughout his career. Fantastic after the catch. Also, I don't think Upshaw lasts until our second unless we're trading up...
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12-13-2011, 08:23 PM	#11
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	Sorry aturnis. I didn't put this together I got it from another thread. Agree that I don't think Upshaw makes it to the second. He is an OLB in a 34. Could see him ending up in Pittsburgh.
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12-13-2011, 09:08 PM	#12
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-555936	BTW I bolded my wanna be picks above. Not only would they reenergize the fan base as there is a heisman winner and heisman finalist in there they would make this team better.
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12-14-2011, 06:25 AM	#14
spanky 52 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $-764399	I don't see Baltimore letting Grubbs go in FA. I like the idea of going after Soliai from Miami. I'd also go after C Myers from Houston. He, Williams and Foster are all eligible for FA and i don't see them signing all three. I'm not going to get my hopes up for a 1st round QB but we'll see. I like RB Polk in the second and WR Wright in the third. Somehow they have to get a new RT. Would like to see the Chief's play Hudson, Powe, Stanzi and maybe even a little Mims these last three games to see what they've got.
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