Chiefs Exposed

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-18-2011, 07:06 PM

What else can you really say? This is a terrible football team.

What does it portend? That's a little harder to say.

1) I was willing to grant Haley some slack after the disastrous season opener, but seeing how this team responded, and how it has responded the last four games, he needs to be a dead man walking. The problem with Haley is the problem that happens with any hothead, whether it's Lou Piniella, Bobby Valentine, or Mangino: no one wants to play for, or listen to a prick when they are losing. If he could command respect it's one thing, but being a failed golfer who got into the NFL through daddy connections will kill him in a situation like this. It's the height of irony, really.

That team has a lot of quit in it.

2) Pioli may be one of the luckiest men in the NFL if this team is as bad as it looks right now. His own mismanagement of the team could literally cause the franchise to fall ass over teakettle into Andrew Luck, a pick for which he would take all the credit.

3) Romeo's defense is antiquated. You can't sit back and wait for a QB to pick you apart in a league where corners can't jam and you only have one legitimate pass rusher. This team needs to be shooting gaps and leaning on its corners, not expecting the linebackers and safeties to cover down the field or in the seams.

4) The telephone game is one of many things killing the offense. You can't say that multiple relays/filters is a good idea in a situation like that. It's one more potential area for failure. You don't need four sticks of RAM that have the same total capacity as two would.

5) The injuries have been disastrous, but you can't dodge that bug forever. I read an NFL preview on Grantland where Bill Barnwell pointed out the staggeringly low number of games lost by the Chiefs last year. This is the unlucky flip side of that coin. Given the schedule and the lack of focus, it's not the worst of all possible breaks to have it happen this year.

What can you say, really?

A lot of this stems from the 2009 offseason. By trading for Cassel in February, Pioli effectively passed on both Stafford and Sanchez. He hired Haley, a guy who looks daily more like the Reno airshow, and he made possibly the worst pick in Chiefs history at #3, and followed it up with maybe the worst draft in Chiefs history.

The ideology behind the roster construction is totally bankrupt, so it's hard to have much of any faith at this point.

Hammock Parties · 09-18-2011, 07:06 PM

Watching that game was like watching the rape scene in Irreversible.

We can't go back.

Reerun_KC · 09-18-2011, 07:08 PM

I put this on the same level as drafting Gholston.... Whoever wanted to draft him should have to wear that Bust like a Scarlett Letter...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-18-2011, 07:08 PM

Spot on, as usual.

Brianfo · 09-18-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I put this on the same level as drafting Gholston.... Whoever wanted to draft him should have to wear that Bust like a Scarlett Letter...

Zing!!

**The Bad Guy** · 09-18-2011, 07:10 PM

How did Pioli pass on Stafford? Sanchez, yes, but I don't know how he effectively passed on him.

Really, I would rather see Palko out there and go 0-16.

Titty Meat · 09-18-2011, 07:10 PM

Pioli's dithering has costed us.

Deberg_1990 · 09-18-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

A lot of this stems from the 2009 offseason. By trading for Cassel in February, Pioli effectively passed on both Stafford and Sanchez.

How could Pioli have ever thought Cassel would be a future franchise QB? He knew him better than anyone.

Rams Fan · 09-18-2011, 07:11 PM

Quote:

A lot of this stems from the 2009 offseason. By trading for Cassel in February, Pioli effectively passed on both Stafford and Sanchez. He hired Haley, a guy who looks daily more like the Reno airshow, and he made possibly the worst pick in Chiefs history at #3, and followed it up with maybe the worst draft in Chiefs history.

Kinda hard to pass on Stafford when he was taken two picks before.

Besides, both of the QBs you listed aren't the best from the 2009 draft...

Reerun_KC · 09-18-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

How did Pioli pass on Stafford? Sanchez, yes, but I don't know how he effectively passed on him.

Really, I would rather see Palko out there and go 0-16.

At this point it doesnt hurt... I cant see this team getting any better, especially with the Injury bug showing up...

But if you are going that route. For go Plako and put in Stanzi..

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-18-2011, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I put this on the same level as drafting Gholston.... Whoever wanted to draft him should have to wear that Bust like a Scarlett Letter...

Amazingly enough, I don't get paid for my football decisions, and yet the results would largely be similar to someone making $5 mil a year.

I'll put it in other words. I'll bet you make a fraction of what Pioli does. It doesn't take terribly long to learn what you do, I have a basic understanding of what you do, I've taken a Basic Aviation course, and yet I'd guarantee the gulf in results between me flying and you flying is far beyond that of me picking players and a guy making $5 million.

Think about that for a second.

If you can't see that disconnect, I don't know what to tell you.

Reerun_KC · 09-18-2011, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

How could Pioli have ever thought Cassel would be a future franchise QB? He knew him better than anyone.

Beats me...

**the Talking Can** · 09-18-2011, 07:13 PM

Quote:

He hired Haley, a guy who looks daily more like the Reno airshow...

wow

**DeezNutz** · 09-18-2011, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

How did Pioli pass on Stafford? Sanchez, yes, but I don't know how he effectively passed on him.

Really, I would rather see Palko out there and go 0-16.

Within striking distance of a trade up, and trading for Cassel eliminated even the possibility of entertaining the idea.

Rams Fan · 09-18-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Within striking distance of a trade up, and trading for Cassel eliminated even the possibility of entertaining the idea.

The Lions wouldn't want to make their fans(whatever remained of them after 2008) pissed by trading down for a guy who started one season at USC.

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