Football Which potential 1st year head coach will have the best career?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-05-2009, 06:04 PM

Of the names that have been thrown around as potential 1st year Head Coaches for 2009, who do you think is the most likely to be successful - long term?

Why?

Poll to come...

ChiefsCountry · 01-05-2009, 06:10 PM

I went with Schwartz even though I am warming up to Ferentz alot. Schwartz has seen the franchise through a complete rebuild and is one of the best brains in the game. Really smart dude who has learned from Bellichek and Fisher.

**DeezNutz** · 01-05-2009, 06:10 PM

Went with Schwartz.

Can put together a solid D and has learned under the individual whom I consider the best coach in the league.

**Rausch** · 01-05-2009, 06:15 PM

Rex Ryan...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-05-2009, 06:17 PM

I went with Schwartz, but Ryan is a VERY close 2nd for me.

Mecca · 01-05-2009, 06:20 PM

Todd Haley, when he was in Dallas he was despised by the players they thought he was a total dick.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-05-2009, 06:36 PM

I went with Harbaugh.

He was a successful NFL QB and both his father and brother are head coaches.

I think he's going to be a very good head coach.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-05-2009, 06:37 PM

FWIW, Ray Sherman sucks ass.

He's a WR coach at best and if it weren't for the Rooney Rule, he wouldn't get a look.

It'd be like interviewing Dick Curl.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-05-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

FWIW, Ray Sherman sucks ass.

He's a WR coach at best and if it weren't for the Rooney Rule, he wouldn't get a look.

It'd be like interviewing Dick Curl.

Yeah, that's why I laugh my ass off that the Rams are interviewing him...

chiefzilla1501 · 01-05-2009, 06:48 PM

Steve Spagnuolo. He has two pretty solid coaching trees.

I still don't understand the appeal of Rex Ryan. He's a defensive mastermind, but I don't think he's head coach material. I guarantee that his personality will really get under his players' and coaches' skin. Head coaching is less about the X's and O's and more about the ability to manage the entire team.

It's like at work. You have an expert analyst who is brilliant but has no people skills. He will never be a good manager because he has no idea how to lead.

Rex Ryan is not a secret. People have known about him for years. And yet he's never even sniffed a head coach interview. I think that's pretty strong proof that a lot of front offices are scared about this guy's personality.

**Dylan** · 01-05-2009, 06:55 PM

Star Ledger: "Giants' Steve Spagnuolo doesn't blow Jets away in interview for head coaching job, Brian Schottenheimer emerges as front-runner"

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Spagnuolo, in his second season as the Giants' defensive boss, is the hottest assistant coach at the moment among NFL teams searching for a head coach. But even though he did a solid job during his interview with the Jets, he wasn't as prepared as one would expect, according to one person.

The people requested anonymity because the Jets' search to replace the fired Eric Mangini is ongoing and they are not authorized to speak for the team or the candidates involved.

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Sunday, two new names emerged: Cardinals assistant head coach/offensive line coach Russ Grimm and former Ravens coach Brian Billick. Also, the Jets are expected to reach out to Colts defensive coordinator Ron Meeks this week. Boston College head coach Jeff Jagodzinski, Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier and Chargers defensive coordinator Ron Rivera are also on the Jets' radar.

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Cowher's first public comments seem to confirm the belief that he simply didn't want to coach in the 2009 season and his decision to turn down the Jets had nothing to do with Johnson being out of the country this past week.

According to another person with knowledge of the team's search, the Jets had taken issue with a report that Cowher didn't want to interview with the team for that reason. Johnson is scheduled to return Monday and will sit in on all future interviews.

Click on the link to finish reading, "New York Jets Damage Control"

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2....html#comments

chiefzilla1501 · 01-05-2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan

Star Ledger: "Giants' Steve Spagnuolo doesn't blow Jets away in interview for head coaching job, Brian Schottenheimer emerges as front-runner"

Click on the link to finish reading, "New York Jets Damage Control"

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2....html#comments

Yup. Hard to imagine why a coach who, you know, is 98% committed right now to creating a defensive gameplan for a playoff game would be prepared. It's outrageous for the Jets not to be more sensitive to the "distraction" he has right now.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-05-2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Steve Spagnuolo. He has two pretty solid coaching trees.

I still don't understand the appeal of Rex Ryan. He's a defensive mastermind, but I don't think he's head coach material. I guarantee that his personality will really get under his players' and coaches' skin. Head coaching is less about the X's and O's and more about the ability to manage the entire team.

It's like at work. You have an expert analyst who is brilliant but has no people skills. He will never be a good manager because he has no idea how to lead.

Rex Ryan is not a secret. People have known about him for years. And yet he's never even sniffed a head coach interview. I think that's pretty strong proof that a lot of front offices are scared about this guy's personality.

WTF are you talking about?

He was interviewed in Atlanta last year.

He turned down interviews back in 2005 to take the Ravens DC job.

And several teams THIS year have already request permission to speak to him regarding openings.

I'm not sure where you're getting this personality thing, but from everything I've read, (and I've followed the Ravens pretty close since 1999) players LOVE him, offense and defense.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-05-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

WTF are you talking about?

He was interviewed in Atlanta last year.

He turned down interviews back in 2005 to take the Ravens DC job.

And several teams THIS year have already request permission to speak to him regarding openings.

I'm not sure where you're getting this personality thing, but from everything I've read, (and I've followed the Ravens pretty close since 1999) players LOVE him, offense and defense.

Good to know. I had just heard from some friends I have in the AFC North. If that's truly the case, then I'll admit I was wrong.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-05-2009, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Good to know. I had just heard from some friends I have in the AFC North. If that's truly the case, then I'll admit I was wrong.

Maybe you/they have confused the Ryan brothers?

Rob has never been a candidate for a HC position, AFAIK - and comes across as more of a screamer.

View Poll Results: Who will be most successful long term?
Jim Harbaugh - HC Stanford	7	11.11%
Steve Spagnuolo - DC Giants	20	31.75%
Josh McDaniels - OC Patriots	2	3.17%
Raheem Morris - DC Buccaneers	0	0%
Jason Garrett - OC Cowboys	3	4.76%
Rick Dennison - OC Broncos	1	1.59%
Kirk Ferentz - HC Iowa	2	3.17%
Rex Ryan - DC Ravens	6	9.52%
Leslie Frazier - DC Vikings	1	1.59%
Brian Schottenheimer - OC Jets	3	4.76%
Todd Bowles - Asst. HC Dolphins	1	1.59%
Ray Sherman - WR's Cowboys	0	0%
Winston Moss - Asst. HC Packers	0	0%
Jim Schwartz - DC Titans	12	19.05%
Todd Haley - OC Cardinals	0	0%
Write-In vote	1	1.59%
Gaz	4	6.35%
Voters: 63. You may not vote on this poll

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01-05-2009, 06:48 PM	#10
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1545503	Steve Spagnuolo. He has two pretty solid coaching trees. I still don't understand the appeal of Rex Ryan. He's a defensive mastermind, but I don't think he's head coach material. I guarantee that his personality will really get under his players' and coaches' skin. Head coaching is less about the X's and O's and more about the ability to manage the entire team. It's like at work. You have an expert analyst who is brilliant but has no people skills. He will never be a good manager because he has no idea how to lead. Rex Ryan is not a secret. People have known about him for years. And yet he's never even sniffed a head coach interview. I think that's pretty strong proof that a lot of front offices are scared about this guy's personality.
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