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Old 01-04-2010, 12:22 AM  
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Chiefs tried to trade Charles
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With Texas headed for a National Championship showdown with Alabama, two former Longhorns now playing for the Chiefs performed as if they were back in college and dominating inferior competition Sunday afternoon.

Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson ended the Broncos’ playoff hopes and opened positive floodgates for the 2010 Chiefs during a 44-24 win in Denver.

If you had told me before this game that Matt Cassel would only throw for 207 yards, Dwayne Bowe and Charles would catch only one pass combined and Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton would throw for 431 yards, I’d have sworn the Chiefs would have lost on Sunday to end their miserable 2009 season. Instead, they played their best football game of the season.

With Charles setting a Chiefs’ single-game rushing record with 259 yards and Johnson scoring two touchdowns off interception returns, have we seen the birth of the new Chiefs? Did we just witness the genesis of the team we’ll see next season?

It won’t hurt if both Texas standouts are on the roster come September. Charles is a lock, but Johnson is a free agent and has not been a happy camper in Kansas City since Haley arrived with his in-your-face coaching style.

Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month.

The Chiefs held onto Charles and he has paid huge dividends. A year ago, former Chiefs Vice President of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich told me Charles was going to be a special running back, and that’s why he pushed former GM Carl Peterson to draft him in the third round.

Charles is clearly the go-to back in Kansas City based on his second-half performance this season. Kansas City now has the luxury of pursuing other needs on offense in free agency and the draft.

Johnson, even though he was primarily used in passing situations, clearly has still been KC’s best inside linebacker all season long. The Chiefs now need to make a strong play to keep him, because he’s talented enough that he’ll go somewhere else and succeed.

Charles and Johnson weren’t the only bright spots Sunday. Early, it became clear that the Chiefs were ready to play from the opening snap. The first play on offense was a 50-yard bomb to little-used wide receiver Terrance Copper, sending a message to the Broncos that the Chiefs weren’t going to lie down.

The Chiefs kept punching the Broncos in the mouth until they delivered the knockout punch – Charles’ 52-yard touchdown gallop - that eliminated Denver from the playoff race. Just for that, this game has special meaning. Chiefs fans can live the entire offseason knowing their team ended the season of an AFC West Rival that started 6-0. While New York's win Sunday night also would have eliminated the Broncos, the Chiefs had the pleasure of taking away Denver's hope early.

Who’s the better coach now? Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels? We’ll have plenty of time to debate that this offseason.

Haley showed something Sunday and will get another season to turn the ship around in Kansas City. We should have no problem with that, especially if the reports are accurate that Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis will soon be taking over KC’s offense and defense. Crennel and Weis would give Haley two former head coaches to bounce ideas off, and that could be enough to make a huge difference next season.

This season was full of bitter disappointment for the Chiefs and for the most part it was a negative year that warranted harsh criticism. But Monday morning, that doesn’t matter. The Chiefs are undefeated in 2010. Now we wait nine months for the next game.
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Old 01-04-2010, 01:10 AM   #151
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I'd be curious if Clayton can tell us if someone from the Redskins Scout board has any info on this.
Not that I know of. But I'm not privy to all this stuff like Nick is.

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Old 01-04-2010, 01:10 AM   #152
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I would totally believe Charles was on the block, whether this particular trade was close to happening is another debate.

And he might be right, but considering the source looking for another source really isn't asking that much.
If everyone was on the block (and we know this), then why is it so hard to assume that our 3rd down back was being shopped for the same price as one of the guys in our DL rotation?
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Old 01-04-2010, 01:11 AM   #153
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Again, "everyone is on the block" is far from "Charles is being offered for a 5th."

One is a general statement to put the team on notice, the other is a specific transaction.
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He's allowed like 10 sacks.
How many has Albert allowed? Like 10 also, does he suck major balls?
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Old 01-04-2010, 01:11 AM   #155
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At that time Tyler was playing far more than Charles was.
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Oh Jesus Christ, nice job Hootie.
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Again, "everyone is on the block" is far from "Charles is being offered for a 5th."

One is a general statement to put the team on notice, the other is a specific transaction.
Your assuming players were put on the block only to be "put on notice", and that the team wasn't serious about moving them for picks.

We know at least one player was dealt, why is it so hard to believe that the team got to the point of discussing compensation for another?
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Old 01-04-2010, 01:12 AM   #158
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Baseless accusation.
I worked with Athan for 365 days. I say he makes stuff up. He embarrassed me repeatedly during my tenure and then squashed the legitimate information we had because A) it wasn't his story. B) the Chiefs didn't like the tone of the story.

Baseless from Billay? Perhaps.

Baseless from me? Not a chance. Where are the best reporters to ever work for WPI, gochiefs? The Mike & Mike team were the only hope for that organization. Why did they leave?
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If everyone was on the block (and we know this), then why is it so hard to assume that our 3rd down back was being shopped for the same price as one of the guys in our DL rotation?
The information itself is not that hard to believe.

The source it came from, is. But does that really even need to be pointed out...
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How many has Albert allowed? Like 10 also, does he suck major balls?
Why is that relevant?

Albert has improved. O'Callaghan would need Tommy Boy's brake pads to slow down pass rushers.
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Look, Nick is selling inside info, if he had something this specific and didnt report it then, why now?

If it had been reported then, this wouldnt be an issue.
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I've asked this question before and it hasn't been answered.

What has Scott Pioli done to inspire confidence in his ability to evaluate talent properly?
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I've asked this question before and it hasn't been answered.

What has Scott Pioli done to inspire confidence in his ability to evaluate talent properly?
Good luck getting this question answered.
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Look, Nick is selling inside info, if he had something this specific and didnt report it then, why now?

If it had been reported then, this wouldnt be an issue.
Again, how often are trades that don't happen reported?

Rarely, if ever - especially getting specific about compensation.

When it does come out, it's usually well after the fact.
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Oh Jesus Christ, nice job Hootie.
Well you keep acting like nobody ever listens to you. We listen to you, you make good points, and we listen to them. Get over it.

I am definitely not Hootie. Hootie is out of control. I know what I'm doing.
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