Chiefs Chiefs tried to trade Charles - Page 21

Hammock Parties · 01-04-2010, 12:22 AM

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With Texas headed for a National Championship showdown with Alabama, two former Longhorns now playing for the Chiefs performed as if they were back in college and dominating inferior competition Sunday afternoon.

Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson ended the Broncos’ playoff hopes and opened positive floodgates for the 2010 Chiefs during a 44-24 win in Denver.

If you had told me before this game that Matt Cassel would only throw for 207 yards, Dwayne Bowe and Charles would catch only one pass combined and Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton would throw for 431 yards, I’d have sworn the Chiefs would have lost on Sunday to end their miserable 2009 season. Instead, they played their best football game of the season.

With Charles setting a Chiefs’ single-game rushing record with 259 yards and Johnson scoring two touchdowns off interception returns, have we seen the birth of the new Chiefs? Did we just witness the genesis of the team we’ll see next season?

It won’t hurt if both Texas standouts are on the roster come September. Charles is a lock, but Johnson is a free agent and has not been a happy camper in Kansas City since Haley arrived with his in-your-face coaching style.

Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month.

The Chiefs held onto Charles and he has paid huge dividends. A year ago, former Chiefs Vice President of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich told me Charles was going to be a special running back, and that’s why he pushed former GM Carl Peterson to draft him in the third round.

Charles is clearly the go-to back in Kansas City based on his second-half performance this season. Kansas City now has the luxury of pursuing other needs on offense in free agency and the draft.

Johnson, even though he was primarily used in passing situations, clearly has still been KC’s best inside linebacker all season long. The Chiefs now need to make a strong play to keep him, because he’s talented enough that he’ll go somewhere else and succeed.

Charles and Johnson weren’t the only bright spots Sunday. Early, it became clear that the Chiefs were ready to play from the opening snap. The first play on offense was a 50-yard bomb to little-used wide receiver Terrance Copper, sending a message to the Broncos that the Chiefs weren’t going to lie down.

The Chiefs kept punching the Broncos in the mouth until they delivered the knockout punch – Charles’ 52-yard touchdown gallop - that eliminated Denver from the playoff race. Just for that, this game has special meaning. Chiefs fans can live the entire offseason knowing their team ended the season of an AFC West Rival that started 6-0. While New York's win Sunday night also would have eliminated the Broncos, the Chiefs had the pleasure of taking away Denver's hope early.

Who’s the better coach now? Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels? We’ll have plenty of time to debate that this offseason.

Haley showed something Sunday and will get another season to turn the ship around in Kansas City. We should have no problem with that, especially if the reports are accurate that Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis will soon be taking over KC’s offense and defense. Crennel and Weis would give Haley two former head coaches to bounce ideas off, and that could be enough to make a huge difference next season.

This season was full of bitter disappointment for the Chiefs and for the most part it was a negative year that warranted harsh criticism. But Monday morning, that doesn’t matter. The Chiefs are undefeated in 2010. Now we wait nine months for the next game.

PhillyChiefFan · 01-04-2010, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

There wasn't a MF'er on this roster that didn't deserve to be on the block.

I agree with that.

Until Twittergate, we all had no idea what Charles was fully capable of as a premier back.

TheGuardian · 01-04-2010, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

This here.

In 2008 Charles had one good game, a 106-yard effort against Tampa Bay. Up to and including the November 8th game against Jacksonville, his numbers again were nothing to behold. Sure, he also wasn't a featured back... but the point is, no one thought he was the second coming of Marshall Faulk until he blew everyone away with this final four game stretch (143, 154, 102, 259).

So why are people acting like, "Look, once again, Pioli proves he's an incompetent idiot because he wanted to trade this stud!!"? Give it a frigging rest. You got one of the more promising GM candidates available. You got a head coach who lacks experience but has the right attitude. You got an improvement at QB--sure, maybe he's not Peyton Manning, but he's an improvement. You found a stud running back. You won 4 games instead of 2. You ended the Broncos' playoff chances. And yet you still find something to bitch about. Wash the sand out of your vagina and at least enjoy FOR ONE F**KING DAY the good game that they played yesterday.

All of this. I'm getting ready to call out all of the asshole MF'ers here who still show up to bitch like the **** rags that they are AFTER we beat Denver in Denver for the first time in almost 10 ****ing years. It's ****ing pathetic at this point.

Find another team or shut the mother **** up. Bitches.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-04-2010, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month.

Scott Pioli should wake up with a ****ing pink slip in his office.

Jesus, this dumb **** wouldn't know talent if it was raping his mom in the ass while strangling his first born child.

Shocker. Everyone is falling in line...

TheGuardian · 01-04-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Shocker. Everyone is falling in line...

Yup. Without a shred of proof this story is posted up and every Chief hater here falls in line believing it.

****ing morons.

**the Talking Can** · 01-04-2010, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

I don't give a **** if he did try to trade him. There wasn't a MF'er on this roster that didn't deserve to be on the block.

Charles will give us 3 good years and, like 90% of all NFL RB's, will be relegated to the broken down scrap heap.

Who gives a **** if they tried to trade him?

this

and I'd like everyone who said "Charles is the next Chris Johnson" before the season started to raise their hands....

line up next to all the people who said Pollard was a great safety and we need to keep him.....

SenselessChiefsFan · 01-04-2010, 07:21 AM

Let's be clear, IF this happened, it falls on Haley's head, NOT Pioli's. Same as the cutting of Pollard.

These guys are evaluated by the coaching staff, and the coaches decide if a guy is expendable. The GM just gets as much as he can get for a guy.

Acquiring players is different than deciding who stays from the current team. Especially, when you have no issues with the cap.

**SAUTO** · 01-04-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

How many sources do you need regarding the entire roster being on the block?

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Originally Posted by doomy3

That is hardly the same thing as what this article is claiming, but you know that.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I've been saying that the entire thread.

It's being ignored.

no doomy replied to you. trust me you have said it enough times that people have noticed. still doesnt make the compensation accurate

**SAUTO** · 01-04-2010, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Again, "everyone is on the block" is far from "Charles is being offered for a 5th."

One is a general statement to put the team on notice, the other is a specific transaction.

ooops otwp here's another reply to you.

Mr. Laz · 01-04-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Funny that this was just now written, if this actually happened. This reeks of bullshit.

this ... where is the proof that the Chiefs really did try and trade Charles.

it's funny ... because if this article said something positive like "pioli trade to trade for *insert uber player here* then some people would ask for 5 links of proof with something written in blood. But since it's another thing to bitch about they accept it easily and go off on another rant.

this is WPI ... seriously people are believing this shit.

wild1 · 01-04-2010, 08:38 AM

Another "We knew all along, but we couldn't tell you" from WIPE?

TheGuardian · 01-04-2010, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

this ... where is the proof that the Chiefs really did try and trade Charles.

Even funnier are the stupid MF'ers who believed it without questioning it because they want to hate Pioli and Haley so badly.

WhitiE · 01-04-2010, 08:42 AM

umm.... who cares?

Mr. Laz · 01-04-2010, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Even funnier are the stupid MF'ers who believed it without questioning it because they want to hate Pioli and Haley so badly.

it's true

certain people are just drooling to believe any bad shit about Pioli they can. Normally people laugh WPI shit off immediately but since this information says what they want it to say, they go off.

teedubya · 01-04-2010, 08:46 AM

I certainly believe this... Charles was butter fingers early in the year... he wasn't dressing for the games... barely saw the field. I don't how this is a stretch to some people's imaginations.

Abba-Dabba · 01-04-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WhitiE

umm.... who cares?

It's Chiefsplanet. A place where you can find a bunch of womens arguing about something that never happened.

01-04-2010, 12:22 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $850478	Chiefs tried to trade Charles http://kan.scout.com/2/934713.html With Texas headed for a National Championship showdown with Alabama, two former Longhorns now playing for the Chiefs performed as if they were back in college and dominating inferior competition Sunday afternoon. Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson ended the Broncos’ playoff hopes and opened positive floodgates for the 2010 Chiefs during a 44-24 win in Denver. If you had told me before this game that Matt Cassel would only throw for 207 yards, Dwayne Bowe and Charles would catch only one pass combined and Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton would throw for 431 yards, I’d have sworn the Chiefs would have lost on Sunday to end their miserable 2009 season. Instead, they played their best football game of the season. With Charles setting a Chiefs’ single-game rushing record with 259 yards and Johnson scoring two touchdowns off interception returns, have we seen the birth of the new Chiefs? Did we just witness the genesis of the team we’ll see next season? It won’t hurt if both Texas standouts are on the roster come September. Charles is a lock, but Johnson is a free agent and has not been a happy camper in Kansas City since Haley arrived with his in-your-face coaching style. Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month. The Chiefs held onto Charles and he has paid huge dividends. A year ago, former Chiefs Vice President of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich told me Charles was going to be a special running back, and that’s why he pushed former GM Carl Peterson to draft him in the third round. Charles is clearly the go-to back in Kansas City based on his second-half performance this season. Kansas City now has the luxury of pursuing other needs on offense in free agency and the draft. Johnson, even though he was primarily used in passing situations, clearly has still been KC’s best inside linebacker all season long. The Chiefs now need to make a strong play to keep him, because he’s talented enough that he’ll go somewhere else and succeed. Charles and Johnson weren’t the only bright spots Sunday. Early, it became clear that the Chiefs were ready to play from the opening snap. The first play on offense was a 50-yard bomb to little-used wide receiver Terrance Copper, sending a message to the Broncos that the Chiefs weren’t going to lie down. The Chiefs kept punching the Broncos in the mouth until they delivered the knockout punch – Charles’ 52-yard touchdown gallop - that eliminated Denver from the playoff race. Just for that, this game has special meaning. Chiefs fans can live the entire offseason knowing their team ended the season of an AFC West Rival that started 6-0. While New York's win Sunday night also would have eliminated the Broncos, the Chiefs had the pleasure of taking away Denver's hope early. Who’s the better coach now? Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels? We’ll have plenty of time to debate that this offseason. Haley showed something Sunday and will get another season to turn the ship around in Kansas City. We should have no problem with that, especially if the reports are accurate that Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis will soon be taking over KC’s offense and defense. Crennel and Weis would give Haley two former head coaches to bounce ideas off, and that could be enough to make a huge difference next season. This season was full of bitter disappointment for the Chiefs and for the most part it was a negative year that warranted harsh criticism. But Monday morning, that doesn’t matter. The Chiefs are undefeated in 2010. Now we wait nine months for the next game.
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teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $8993042	I certainly believe this... Charles was butter fingers early in the year... he wasn't dressing for the games... barely saw the field. I don't how this is a stretch to some people's imaginations.
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