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Old 01-04-2010, 12:22 AM  
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With Texas headed for a National Championship showdown with Alabama, two former Longhorns now playing for the Chiefs performed as if they were back in college and dominating inferior competition Sunday afternoon.

Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson ended the Broncos’ playoff hopes and opened positive floodgates for the 2010 Chiefs during a 44-24 win in Denver.

If you had told me before this game that Matt Cassel would only throw for 207 yards, Dwayne Bowe and Charles would catch only one pass combined and Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton would throw for 431 yards, I’d have sworn the Chiefs would have lost on Sunday to end their miserable 2009 season. Instead, they played their best football game of the season.

With Charles setting a Chiefs’ single-game rushing record with 259 yards and Johnson scoring two touchdowns off interception returns, have we seen the birth of the new Chiefs? Did we just witness the genesis of the team we’ll see next season?

It won’t hurt if both Texas standouts are on the roster come September. Charles is a lock, but Johnson is a free agent and has not been a happy camper in Kansas City since Haley arrived with his in-your-face coaching style.

Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month.

The Chiefs held onto Charles and he has paid huge dividends. A year ago, former Chiefs Vice President of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich told me Charles was going to be a special running back, and that’s why he pushed former GM Carl Peterson to draft him in the third round.

Charles is clearly the go-to back in Kansas City based on his second-half performance this season. Kansas City now has the luxury of pursuing other needs on offense in free agency and the draft.

Johnson, even though he was primarily used in passing situations, clearly has still been KC’s best inside linebacker all season long. The Chiefs now need to make a strong play to keep him, because he’s talented enough that he’ll go somewhere else and succeed.

Charles and Johnson weren’t the only bright spots Sunday. Early, it became clear that the Chiefs were ready to play from the opening snap. The first play on offense was a 50-yard bomb to little-used wide receiver Terrance Copper, sending a message to the Broncos that the Chiefs weren’t going to lie down.

The Chiefs kept punching the Broncos in the mouth until they delivered the knockout punch – Charles’ 52-yard touchdown gallop - that eliminated Denver from the playoff race. Just for that, this game has special meaning. Chiefs fans can live the entire offseason knowing their team ended the season of an AFC West Rival that started 6-0. While New York's win Sunday night also would have eliminated the Broncos, the Chiefs had the pleasure of taking away Denver's hope early.

Who’s the better coach now? Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels? We’ll have plenty of time to debate that this offseason.

Haley showed something Sunday and will get another season to turn the ship around in Kansas City. We should have no problem with that, especially if the reports are accurate that Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis will soon be taking over KC’s offense and defense. Crennel and Weis would give Haley two former head coaches to bounce ideas off, and that could be enough to make a huge difference next season.

This season was full of bitter disappointment for the Chiefs and for the most part it was a negative year that warranted harsh criticism. But Monday morning, that doesn’t matter. The Chiefs are undefeated in 2010. Now we wait nine months for the next game.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:35 AM   #31
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Based on what?
News "leaks" out of Washington rather easily, and there were several reports by national reporters around the trade deadline that everyone but Cassel was on the trade block.

I'm not willing to dismiss it just because Nick wrote it, unlike most here.

Sounds perfectly believable given the circumstances, but people don't want to admit a potential Pioli ****-up.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:35 AM   #32
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Why wouldn't this have come out sooner if it happened.
No one would pay $89.99.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:36 AM   #33
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It wouldnt surprise me but i in no way will believe this till we get more sources.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:36 AM   #34
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Yikes! Could it be: Peterson > Pioli
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:36 AM   #35
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Why?

Because you can't imagine Pioli doing something so stupid, or because Nick wrote it?

There's no doubt in my mind it happened, and that someone in the Redskins organization is the source.

God knows Pioli didn't admit to it.
I'm going to get my head bitten off. But you are one crabby fellow. Do you believe this just because it's negative toward Pioli? This is obviously a piece of tabloid journalism by a group that does it all the time... why would you wait until after he has a career game to say something like this....

It obviously would've been a stupid move in retrospect, but many moves are. We almost traded Larry Johnson away to Miami for Arturo Freeman before he ever did anything for this team. If any of the other GM's thought Charles was going to become what he was, they would've jumped on the chance to trade a 5th for him.

Just like they would've signed Priest when he was out there floating around... or drafted LJ instead of letting him slip to the end of the 1st.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:36 AM   #36
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if i remember right before the trade deadline we really struggled, and pioli said everyone is on the block that isnt named matt cassel. we had no takers, DJ dorsey and bowe were all on the block as well and nobody gave a sh*t.
Exactly.
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So we could get more than a 5th for him now, right? Win!
Mecca will want to trade Charles after next season.
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News "leaks" out of Washington rather easily, and there were several reports by national reporters around the trade deadline that everyone but Cassel was on the trade block.

I'm not willing to dismiss it just because Nick wrote it, unlike most here.

Sounds perfectly believable given the circumstances, but people don't want to admit a potential Pioli ****-up.
You are going too far trying to prove your point.

A year ago, you would have called this article the bullshit it is.

Now, "there is no doubt in your mind this happened."
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I don't see how Pioli could even fathom the thought since LJ had a paltry 2.7 ypc avg at the time. October was when LJ twitted his BS as well. Seems unlikely but stupid if true.
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News "leaks" out of Washington rather easily, and there were several reports by national reporters around the trade deadline that everyone but Cassel was on the trade block.

I'm not willing to dismiss it just because Nick wrote it, unlike most here.

Sounds perfectly believable given the circumstances, but people don't want to admit a potential Pioli ****-up.
If there are sources I will agree that would be a **** up on Piolis part. Interesting this was posted I heard a clip tonight from Haley saying how at first Charles wasn't considered one of the key peices to this franchise. I would like to see other sources besides Nick Athan before I can believe they tried to trade Charles for a 5th round pick though.
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Yikes! Could it be: Peterson > Pioli
Carl was very close to trading LJ for Arturo Freeman when he was a backup to Priest.
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I'm going to get my head bitten off. But you are one crabby fellow. Do you believe this just because it's negative toward Pioli? This is obviously a piece of tabloid journalism by a group that does it all the time... why would you wait until after he has a career game to say something like this....

It obviously would've been a stupid move in retrospect, but many moves are. We almost traded Larry Johnson away to Miami for Arturo Freeman before he ever did anything for this team. If any of the other GM's thought Charles was going to become what he was, they would've jumped on the chance to trade a 5th for him.

Just like they would've signed Priest when he was out there floating around... or drafted LJ instead of letting him slip to the end of the 1st.
What does Nick have to gain by posting this?

And why after such a big win?

Since when does WPI go out of there way to make the organization look bad? Usually, they are kissing their ass.
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