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Old 01-04-2010, 12:22 AM  
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Chiefs tried to trade Charles

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With Texas headed for a National Championship showdown with Alabama, two former Longhorns now playing for the Chiefs performed as if they were back in college and dominating inferior competition Sunday afternoon.

Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson ended the Broncos’ playoff hopes and opened positive floodgates for the 2010 Chiefs during a 44-24 win in Denver.

If you had told me before this game that Matt Cassel would only throw for 207 yards, Dwayne Bowe and Charles would catch only one pass combined and Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton would throw for 431 yards, I’d have sworn the Chiefs would have lost on Sunday to end their miserable 2009 season. Instead, they played their best football game of the season.

With Charles setting a Chiefs’ single-game rushing record with 259 yards and Johnson scoring two touchdowns off interception returns, have we seen the birth of the new Chiefs? Did we just witness the genesis of the team we’ll see next season?

It won’t hurt if both Texas standouts are on the roster come September. Charles is a lock, but Johnson is a free agent and has not been a happy camper in Kansas City since Haley arrived with his in-your-face coaching style.

Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month.

The Chiefs held onto Charles and he has paid huge dividends. A year ago, former Chiefs Vice President of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich told me Charles was going to be a special running back, and that’s why he pushed former GM Carl Peterson to draft him in the third round.

Charles is clearly the go-to back in Kansas City based on his second-half performance this season. Kansas City now has the luxury of pursuing other needs on offense in free agency and the draft.

Johnson, even though he was primarily used in passing situations, clearly has still been KC’s best inside linebacker all season long. The Chiefs now need to make a strong play to keep him, because he’s talented enough that he’ll go somewhere else and succeed.

Charles and Johnson weren’t the only bright spots Sunday. Early, it became clear that the Chiefs were ready to play from the opening snap. The first play on offense was a 50-yard bomb to little-used wide receiver Terrance Copper, sending a message to the Broncos that the Chiefs weren’t going to lie down.

The Chiefs kept punching the Broncos in the mouth until they delivered the knockout punch – Charles’ 52-yard touchdown gallop - that eliminated Denver from the playoff race. Just for that, this game has special meaning. Chiefs fans can live the entire offseason knowing their team ended the season of an AFC West Rival that started 6-0. While New York's win Sunday night also would have eliminated the Broncos, the Chiefs had the pleasure of taking away Denver's hope early.

Who’s the better coach now? Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels? We’ll have plenty of time to debate that this offseason.

Haley showed something Sunday and will get another season to turn the ship around in Kansas City. We should have no problem with that, especially if the reports are accurate that Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis will soon be taking over KC’s offense and defense. Crennel and Weis would give Haley two former head coaches to bounce ideas off, and that could be enough to make a huge difference next season.

This season was full of bitter disappointment for the Chiefs and for the most part it was a negative year that warranted harsh criticism. But Monday morning, that doesn’t matter. The Chiefs are undefeated in 2010. Now we wait nine months for the next game.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:38 AM   #46
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News "leaks" out of Washington rather easily, and there were several reports by national reporters around the trade deadline that everyone but Cassel was on the trade block.

I'm not willing to dismiss it just because Nick wrote it, unlike most here.

Sounds perfectly believable given the circumstances, but people don't want to admit a potential Pioli ****-up.
We're buds, right? You seem willing to accept it because it fits within your anti-pioli agenda. When you begin embracing an Athan "scoop" you've lost your objectivity.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:39 AM   #47
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Going into that period, Charles had been inactive a couple times and fumbled that kickoff...it was pretty obvious the Chiefs brass didn't think much of him, they refused to play him over LJ.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:39 AM   #48
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Need more proof if it did happen, but if so, holy mother ****ing shit pioli. Charles is dat dude that makes dudes on other teams fear dat dude. He is a dirty little mother****er.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:39 AM   #49
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Look at the time frame, it makes a lot of sense Jamaal Charles was in the total doghouse then, he wasn't even dressing for games.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:40 AM   #50
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They got the word out that everyone was offered in trades as motivation to get their asses in gear. They actually traded away the scrubs (Thigpen, Tyler) and kept the talented guys. No one in this organization was just going to trade away playmakers like Bowe, Charles, and DJ for nothing.

If this really did happen, you probably would have heard about it a lot sooner than today, and from a more credible source...
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:40 AM   #51
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You are going too far trying to prove your point.

A year ago, you would have called this article the bullshit it is.

Now, "there is no doubt in your mind this happened."
A year ago, there's no way we would have traded Charles, as we had just drafted him.

When people like Glazer, among others report that the entire roster sans Cassel is on the trade block leading up to the deadline, it makes it more than believable.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:40 AM   #52
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50 posts in 18 minutes... wow.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:41 AM   #53
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So I guess the question is...who do you hate more, Pioli or Athan?

Decisions, decisions.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:41 AM   #54
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What does Nick have to gain by posting this?

And why after such a big win?

Since when does WPI go out of there way to make the organization look bad? Usually, they are kissing their ass.
He's been jawing on the Chiefs since they yanked his credentials.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:41 AM   #55
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They got the word out that everyone was offered in trades as motivation to get their asses in gear. They actually traded away the scrubs (Thigpen, Tyler) and kept the talented guys. No one in this organization was just going to trade away playmakers like Bowe, Charles, and DJ for nothing.

If this really did happen, you probably would have heard about it a lot sooner than today, and from a more credible source...
Yeah, they thought so highly of Charles and DJ, that they rode the bench or were healthy scratches in games.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:41 AM   #56
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Look at the time frame, it makes a lot of sense Jamaal Charles was in the total doghouse then, he wasn't even dressing for games.
He didn't dress for 1 game.
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I don't know if it's true or not. But even if it is true, that means the ENTIRE NFL thought Pioli was nuts for asking a 5th. That's how the NFL rolls. Stuff like this happens.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:42 AM   #58
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He's been jawing on the Chiefs since they yanked his credentials.
No he hasn't. He was very positive during the offseason. It's a bad conspiracy theory that we hate the Chiefs now because they kicked us out of the pressbox.
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They got the word out that everyone was offered in trades as motivation to get their asses in gear. They actually traded away the scrubs (Thigpen, Tyler) and kept the talented guys. No one in this organization was just going to trade away playmakers like Bowe, Charles, and DJ for nothing.

If this really did happen, you probably would have heard about it a lot sooner than today, and from a more credible source...
The Chiefs brass thought so highly of Charles as a playmaker that he sat behind LJ's worthless ass till he basically made them cut him...Charles was in street clothes for at least 1 game it may have been more..

Ponder that.
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What does Nick have to gain by posting this?

And why after such a big win?

Since when does WPI go out of there way to make the organization look bad? Usually, they are kissing their ass.
You must have missed the whole Athan rant against Pioli and the tightening of all the news from inside Arrowhead and how he was going to go on the offensive because the Chiefs weren't treating him with respect...
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