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Old 01-04-2010, 12:22 AM  
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Chiefs tried to trade Charles
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With Texas headed for a National Championship showdown with Alabama, two former Longhorns now playing for the Chiefs performed as if they were back in college and dominating inferior competition Sunday afternoon.

Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson ended the Broncos’ playoff hopes and opened positive floodgates for the 2010 Chiefs during a 44-24 win in Denver.

If you had told me before this game that Matt Cassel would only throw for 207 yards, Dwayne Bowe and Charles would catch only one pass combined and Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton would throw for 431 yards, I’d have sworn the Chiefs would have lost on Sunday to end their miserable 2009 season. Instead, they played their best football game of the season.

With Charles setting a Chiefs’ single-game rushing record with 259 yards and Johnson scoring two touchdowns off interception returns, have we seen the birth of the new Chiefs? Did we just witness the genesis of the team we’ll see next season?

It won’t hurt if both Texas standouts are on the roster come September. Charles is a lock, but Johnson is a free agent and has not been a happy camper in Kansas City since Haley arrived with his in-your-face coaching style.

Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month.

The Chiefs held onto Charles and he has paid huge dividends. A year ago, former Chiefs Vice President of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich told me Charles was going to be a special running back, and that’s why he pushed former GM Carl Peterson to draft him in the third round.

Charles is clearly the go-to back in Kansas City based on his second-half performance this season. Kansas City now has the luxury of pursuing other needs on offense in free agency and the draft.

Johnson, even though he was primarily used in passing situations, clearly has still been KC’s best inside linebacker all season long. The Chiefs now need to make a strong play to keep him, because he’s talented enough that he’ll go somewhere else and succeed.

Charles and Johnson weren’t the only bright spots Sunday. Early, it became clear that the Chiefs were ready to play from the opening snap. The first play on offense was a 50-yard bomb to little-used wide receiver Terrance Copper, sending a message to the Broncos that the Chiefs weren’t going to lie down.

The Chiefs kept punching the Broncos in the mouth until they delivered the knockout punch – Charles’ 52-yard touchdown gallop - that eliminated Denver from the playoff race. Just for that, this game has special meaning. Chiefs fans can live the entire offseason knowing their team ended the season of an AFC West Rival that started 6-0. While New York's win Sunday night also would have eliminated the Broncos, the Chiefs had the pleasure of taking away Denver's hope early.

Who’s the better coach now? Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels? We’ll have plenty of time to debate that this offseason.

Haley showed something Sunday and will get another season to turn the ship around in Kansas City. We should have no problem with that, especially if the reports are accurate that Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis will soon be taking over KC’s offense and defense. Crennel and Weis would give Haley two former head coaches to bounce ideas off, and that could be enough to make a huge difference next season.

This season was full of bitter disappointment for the Chiefs and for the most part it was a negative year that warranted harsh criticism. But Monday morning, that doesn’t matter. The Chiefs are undefeated in 2010. Now we wait nine months for the next game.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:52 AM   #91
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Rumor has it that our entire LB corp was on the block for a 7th, but we couldn't find any takers.

Steelers would have taken the deal if we threw in Ron Edwards, but that deal was too rich for Pioli so it was scuttled at the last minute.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:52 AM   #92
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No, it's really not.

If anyone other than Nick writes this, no one argues, because it was well known that Pioli was trying to get picks for any player he could.
You don't think that saying everyone is on the block and putting feelers out for values of your players is different than proactively offering a player for a set draft compensation?
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:52 AM   #93
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Everything I own is for sale for the right price. But I'm not considering a scrub draft pick in exchange for something I have 1st day value invested. Sorry.

Look over there:
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Your avatar disproves your anti-Pioli agenda claim.
Apparently, Pioli disagrees.

See: Tyler, Tank.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:52 AM   #94
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Yes because it takes a shitty publication make people step back and realize that in 40 moves Pioli brought in 2 players better than the one they replaced and in 1 case it's a kicker.
That must not be totally true because the rookie head coach doubled the win total in 1 season. So that must mean Haley is a good headcoach?
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:53 AM   #95
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A year ago, there's no way we would have traded Charles, as we had just drafted him.

When people like Glazer, among others report that the entire roster sans Cassel is on the trade block leading up to the deadline, it makes it more than believable.
THIS!! Everyone was on the trading block. Then LJ spouted his BS, JC became numero uno on the depth chart in October. JC no longer on the trading block.
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I guess Belichek was a moron too. It took Bledsoe getting hurt for him to figure out how talented Tom Brady is.
That's because, as much as everyone wants to tell you how brilliant they are, a lot of this stuff comes down to flat luck. Including sometimes, the trades you don't make. They may have very well tried to trade Charles. But the reality, the reality... is they didn't, and it worked out. There are probably a lot more important things to complain about. But you and I aren't trying to sell "inside info" at $100 a pop.
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For those who say the article is true you still haven't posted any sources. Saying everyone is on the trade block isn't the same as saying Charles was offered for a 5th round pick.
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You don't think that saying everyone is on the block and putting feelers out for values of your players is different than proactively offering a player for a set draft compensation?
Who's to say those "feelers" didn't lead to more substantive compensation discussion?

Again, I'll use Tank Tyler as an example.
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No, it's really not.

If anyone other than Nick writes this, no one argues, because it was well known that Pioli was trying to get picks for any player he could.
There's a section of truth to that. But I'm questioning ANYBODY who writes that the Chiefs were ready to take a 5th round pick for Charles. I question anybody who says the Redskins passed that up.
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Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month.

Scott Pioli should wake up with a ****ing pink slip in his office.



Jesus, this dumb **** wouldn't know talent if it was raping his mom in the ass while strangling his first born child.
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Remember, not only did the Chiefs deactivate Charles, they deactivated him for DANTRELL SAVAGE. He got like 10 touches in that Raiders game.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:55 AM   #103
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Apparently, Pioli disagrees.

See: Tyler, Tank.
Those guys had proven their worth. They weren't.

Charles has just now been given opportunities. He was never an awful player. Apples and oranges.
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Who's to say those "feelers" didn't lead to more substantive compensation discussion?

Again, I'll use Tank Tyler as an example.
Well, I'm not sure, but then again, I'm not saying that "I have no doubt in my mind" that this did or didn't happen.
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Remember, not only did the Chiefs deactivate Charles, they deactivated him for DANTRELL SAVAGE. He got like 10 touches in that Raiders game.
Wow 1 game at the begining of the year with a new regime who basically said this year was nothing more than a tryout.
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