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Titty Meat · 04:20 PM

Post all free agent rumors, signings, etc here.

I'll try to keep up this updated.

UPDATE: Official List Of Free Agents

http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/...ee-agency1.pdf

**Free Agent Signings Recap **

http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2011recap.php

** Notable Rumors **

Chiefs: Signed Steve Breaston, Kelly Gregg, Brandon Siler, LeRon McClain

Chargers Sign: Antwan Barnes, Takeo Spikes, Re-sign Jeromy Clary, Re-sign Eric Weddle

Broncos: Trade Jaber Gaffney for Jeremy Jarmon

Raiders:

Other teams in the league:

Jaguars sign: Paul Posluszny, Clint Sessions, Dawan Landry

Cowboys: Re-sign Doug Free

Vikings acquire Mcnabb.

Redskins sign Barry Coefield, Josh Wilson, Donte Stallworth, and Stephen Bowen.

Titans sign Matt Hasselbeck, Shaun Smith, Barrett Ruud

Kolb to Arizona Eagles get DRC and 2nd round pick

Rams sign Mike Sims-Walker, Quintin Mikell,Harvey Dahl, Zac Diles, Justin Bannan

Seahawks sign Allen Branch,Tarvaris Jackson, Sidney Rice & Robert Gallery

Panthers trade for Greg Olsen

Bears sign Marion Barber, Roy Williams, Amobi Okoye

Bills sign Brad Smith

Patriots trade a 2013 5th round pick for Albert Haynesoworth. Traded for Chad Johnson gave up a 2012 5th round pick, and a 2013 6th round.

Texans sign Johnathan Joseph & Danielle Manning

Lions sign Justin Durant, & Eric Wright

Falcons sign Ray Edwards

Cardinals sign Stewart Bradley, Rashard Marshall

Eagles sign Vince Young,Nnamdi Asomugha, Cullen Jenkins, Anthony Hargrove, Ronnie Brown

Saints sign Darren Sproles

Bengals sign Thomas Howard,Nate Clements

Dolphins Traded for Reggie Bush sign Kevin Burnett

49ers sign Jonathan Goodwin

**The Bad Guy** · 07-30-2011, 07:04 AM

I think this guy is probably one of the best run stopping NT's in the league. He's an absolute beast one on one.

Great mentor for Powe too.

Good low-risk signing.

From what I heard this morning, Franklin isn't finding the money out there and is still asking for the moon.

Hammock Parties · 07-30-2011, 07:10 AM

Nick just posted this, for what it's worth...

Quote:

I'm in a giving mood this morning. Phone rang at 7:15 AM and word on the street is that the Chiefs, Cowboys Jets and I assume at some point the Oakland Raiders have interest in Asante Samuels. Philly wants a 2nd Rounder in return. Stay tuned!!!

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 07-30-2011, 07:10 AM

**The Bad Guy** · 07-30-2011, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red 5

Nick just posted this, for what it's worth...

The loogie I just spit on the street is worth more than that.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 07-30-2011, 07:13 AM

The only way this makes sense is if we're giving up on Carr. And I have no idea why we would do something like that.

philfree · 07-30-2011, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater

Impossible, Pioli is spending all his time sleeping.

That and sitting on his hands.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 07-30-2011, 07:18 AM

Here's the thing on Samuel. Dude's gonna make 9.5 million a year for the next 3 years on his contract. Nnamdi got 12 per for 5 years. Why not just pony up the extra money for superior talent rather than give up a 2nd round pick to get Samuel? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

milkman · 07-30-2011, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Here's the thing on Samuel. Dude's gonna make 9.5 million a year for the next 3 years on his contract. Nnamdi got 12 per for 5 years. Why not just pony up the extra money for superior talent rather than give up a 2nd round pick to get Samuel? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I'm with Bad Guy.

I just farted, and that has more value than anything Assclown reports.

keg in kc · 07-30-2011, 07:24 AM

I went to bed literally seconds after my right 53 post last night, so I guess I should fill in some details on what I think that means. It's just a philosophical cliche to at once outline the type of player (and character) with whom they want to build the team as well as describe what kind of team that they want it to be. Individually they want team-oriented players who both work and play hard. Football players rather than athletes, and they might not fit squarely into the physical prototype that characterizes the league as a whole. This does not mean they're trying to build a team on the cheap or that they don't want the most talented players they can find, simply that they're looking for the most talented players that fit exactly the mold they're looking for. Talent and character are not mutually-exclusive concepts. So if you can find a guy who's a star but not a 'me first' guy, a player who's going to push to the wall, and then beyond for his teammates, that's who you want. And you use these type of guys to build the best team you can. And that team, as a unit, is the right 53. It's not just a collection of players, like you're playing franchise mode in Madden and filling out the roster with the 53 guys who have the highest stats, it's about building a group of players who can co-exist and execute at the highest possible level. It's a team concept.

That's basically what I think that phrase means. And I could be wrong in my interpretation. Scott Pioli could read that and laugh in my face. But that's what I think it means.

As far as associating what Pioli has done with what Carl Peterson did, I don't really see it. I mean, in a sense, every GM does the same thing: they're all trying to build the best roster in a certain philosophical image. But I don't think Pioli's concept, both for a team and for what he's looking for in individual players, and Peterson's concept line up all that well. I also think Carl gave more leeway and power to his coaches than Pioli does. That is to say, I think Pioli probably has a much stronger hand on the wheel. He wants to build a team a certain way, a team that plays a certain way, and hired a coach that matches him philosophically, whereas Peterson seemed to go through the flavor of the month both with players and with coaches, Marty to Gun to Dick to Herm, offense to defense to whatever the **** that was.

Oh, and I also think that, once the team has a solid enough core established, you can begin to take the occasional risk, to bring in a few players that might fall outside the norm, philosophically. Like bringing in a Randy Moss or a Corey Dillon or an Albert Haynesworth or a Chad Johnson. Players who are so supremely talented that you bring them in despite character or attitude concerns, because you think at that point that your team is good enough, and the character in your lockerroom strong enough, that the potential reward is worth the risk.

I'm not sure the Chiefs have reached that point quite yet. I think they're probably still in the molding stage, have a young enough roster that maybe they don't want to risk a step back or a setback in terms of chemistry. We'll see with the signings this weekend.

keg in kc · 07-30-2011, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Kelly Gregg is a Kansas City Chief.

Weigmann is happy.

Not surprised, although not necessarily excited either. Not a terrible signing I think, but I hope it's not the only one at the position.

philfree · 07-30-2011, 07:26 AM

Some people were being upset that we hadn't signed top tier FAs at "key positions" as soon as FA started. The thing is there are alot of good players who weren't even released till yesterday. Taking a more patient approach allows us to pick up players like Gregg and hopefully Warren. Two guys who weren't on the market till yesterday at 5:00 and two guys who are really good fits for what we want to do on D. Patience is virtue!

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-30-2011, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson

I think my "disaster" comment earlier seems a bit more reasonable now huh?

Don't worry. It is just as stupid now as it was then.

**The Bad Guy** · 07-30-2011, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Not surprised, although not necessarily excited either. Not a terrible signing I think, but I hope it's not the only one at the position.

It's going to be.

They'll use the year to see how Powe and Torpedo or whatever the F his name is progresses.

I hope they sign Ty Warren, but as far as NT, I can't see another one being brought in.

We lost 2 and added 2.

milkman · 07-30-2011, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree

Some people were being upset that we hadn't signed top tier FAs at "key positions" as soon as FA started. The thing is there are alot of good players who weren't even released till yesterday. Taking a more patient approach allows us to pick up players like Gregg and hopefully Warren. Two guys who weren't on the market till yesterday at 5:00 and two guys who are really good fits for what we want to do on D. Patience is virtue!

There are three guys that I thought should have been on the Chiefs radar at the start of this protracted free agency period.

Clabo
McClain
Breaston

Breaston signed.
I expected Clabo to return to Atlanta, but was hoping the Chiefs could make a run at him.

I expect Pioli will continue to fill out the roster with the 2nd tier guys like Gregg.

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-30-2011, 07:40 AM

They've upgraded the NT position for this season. Nice signing.

07-25-2011, 10:26 AM
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $-1022442	** The Official Free Agency Thread Post all free agent rumors, signings, etc here. I'll try to keep up this updated. UPDATE: Official List Of Free Agents http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/...ee-agency1.pdf Free Agent Signings Recap http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2011recap.php Notable Rumors Chiefs: Signed Steve Breaston, Kelly Gregg, Brandon Siler, LeRon McClain Chargers Sign: Antwan Barnes, Takeo Spikes, Re-sign Jeromy Clary, Re-sign Eric Weddle Broncos: Trade Jaber Gaffney for Jeremy Jarmon Raiders: Other teams in the league:** Jaguars sign: Paul Posluszny, Clint Sessions, Dawan Landry Cowboys: Re-sign Doug Free Vikings acquire Mcnabb. Redskins sign Barry Coefield, Josh Wilson, Donte Stallworth, and Stephen Bowen. Titans sign Matt Hasselbeck, Shaun Smith, Barrett Ruud Kolb to Arizona Eagles get DRC and 2nd round pick Rams sign Mike Sims-Walker, Quintin Mikell,Harvey Dahl, Zac Diles, Justin Bannan Seahawks sign Allen Branch,Tarvaris Jackson, Sidney Rice & Robert Gallery Panthers trade for Greg Olsen Bears sign Marion Barber, Roy Williams, Amobi Okoye Bills sign Brad Smith Patriots trade a 2013 5th round pick for Albert Haynesoworth. Traded for Chad Johnson gave up a 2012 5th round pick, and a 2013 6th round. Texans sign Johnathan Joseph & Danielle Manning Lions sign Justin Durant, & Eric Wright Falcons sign Ray Edwards Cardinals sign Stewart Bradley, Rashard Marshall Eagles sign Vince Young,Nnamdi Asomugha, Cullen Jenkins, Anthony Hargrove, Ronnie Brown Saints sign Darren Sproles Bengals sign Thomas Howard,Nate Clements Dolphins Traded for Reggie Bush sign Kevin Burnett 49ers sign Jonathan Goodwin Last edited by Titty Meat; 08-03-2011 at 04:20 PM..
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07-30-2011, 07:04 AM	#5566
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	I think this guy is probably one of the best run stopping NT's in the league. He's an absolute beast one on one. Great mentor for Powe too. Good low-risk signing. From what I heard this morning, Franklin isn't finding the money out there and is still asking for the moon. __________________
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07-30-2011, 07:24 AM	#5574
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I went to bed literally seconds after my right 53 post last night, so I guess I should fill in some details on what I think that means. It's just a philosophical cliche to at once outline the type of player (and character) with whom they want to build the team as well as describe what kind of team that they want it to be. Individually they want team-oriented players who both work and play hard. Football players rather than athletes, and they might not fit squarely into the physical prototype that characterizes the league as a whole. This does not mean they're trying to build a team on the cheap or that they don't want the most talented players they can find, simply that they're looking for the most talented players that fit exactly the mold they're looking for. Talent and character are not mutually-exclusive concepts. So if you can find a guy who's a star but not a 'me first' guy, a player who's going to push to the wall, and then beyond for his teammates, that's who you want. And you use these type of guys to build the best team you can. And that team, as a unit, is the right 53. It's not just a collection of players, like you're playing franchise mode in Madden and filling out the roster with the 53 guys who have the highest stats, it's about building a group of players who can co-exist and execute at the highest possible level. It's a team concept. That's basically what I think that phrase means. And I could be wrong in my interpretation. Scott Pioli could read that and laugh in my face. But that's what I think it means. As far as associating what Pioli has done with what Carl Peterson did, I don't really see it. I mean, in a sense, every GM does the same thing: they're all trying to build the best roster in a certain philosophical image. But I don't think Pioli's concept, both for a team and for what he's looking for in individual players, and Peterson's concept line up all that well. I also think Carl gave more leeway and power to his coaches than Pioli does. That is to say, I think Pioli probably has a much stronger hand on the wheel. He wants to build a team a certain way, a team that plays a certain way, and hired a coach that matches him philosophically, whereas Peterson seemed to go through the flavor of the month both with players and with coaches, Marty to Gun to Dick to Herm, offense to defense to whatever the **** that was. Oh, and I also think that, once the team has a solid enough core established, you can begin to take the occasional risk, to bring in a few players that might fall outside the norm, philosophically. Like bringing in a Randy Moss or a Corey Dillon or an Albert Haynesworth or a Chad Johnson. Players who are so supremely talented that you bring them in despite character or attitude concerns, because you think at that point that your team is good enough, and the character in your lockerroom strong enough, that the potential reward is worth the risk. I'm not sure the Chiefs have reached that point quite yet. I think they're probably still in the molding stage, have a young enough roster that maybe they don't want to risk a step back or a setback in terms of chemistry. We'll see with the signings this weekend.
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