Peter King: Scouts not impressed with 2013 QB class

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Carl did the same thing, so it is hard to believe it is all the GM and not some weird sort of organizational belief.

I'm no longer a fan of this team if that happens.

I'm jumping ship. And I won't return even when the Chiefs get good.

[tk13]

Draft a DE, sign Sanchez after the Jets cut him. Profit.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by tk13

Draft a DE, sign Sanchez after the Jets cut him. Profit.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by tk13

Draft a DE, sign Sanchez after the Jets cut him. Profit.

YES!!!!!!

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by tk13

Draft a DE, sign Sanchez after the Jets cut him. Profit.

That is not funny on any level.

[Sorter]

Watch Barkley's game vs Syracuse. Yuck.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Watch Barkley's game vs Syracuse. Yuck.

But Barkley has thrown 102 TD's versus 39 INT's in his four year career.

That said, he's going to have bad games. Every QB, whether it's Kurt Warner or Warren Moon or Joe Montana or Peyton Manning, has bad games.

Are you really willing to dismiss him because of ONE game, when he has 35+ games in which he's been lights out?

[Sorter]

Not at all. Barkley has struggled for most of this year though. Just throwing that out there really to highlight your point. Every QB is going to have bad games. When evaluating them, you ned to see what they consistently do wrong and then determine if it can be corrected.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Not at all. Barkley has struggled for most of this year though. Just throwing that out there really to highlight your point. Every QB is going to have bad games. When evaluating them, you ned to see what they consistently do wrong and then determine if it can be corrected.

Barkley may have truly ****ed himself by staying one more year. He certainly would have been taken before Tannehill and may have given the Shanahan's a second thought about trading up.

That said, USC has some serious flaws. The loss of scholarships is really hitting them hard this year and they've clearly not ascended.

Barkley will be fine. Much like Matt Ryan, he's somewhat of a product of those around him.

I don't know nearly enough about Smith to say the same but to date, I am supremely unimpressed with CP's latest obsession.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Barkley may have truly ****ed himself by staying one more year. He certainly would have been taken before Tannehill and may have given the Shanahan's a second thought about trading up.

That said, USC has some serious flaws. The loss of scholarships is really hitting them hard this year and they've clearly not ascended.

Barkley will be fine. Much like Matt Ryan, he's somewhat of a product of those around him.

I don't know nearly enough about Smith to say the same but to date, I am supremely unimpressed with CP's latest obsession.

I'm extremely ignorant to Barkley, so please be gentle here, but what separates Barkley from the other system QB's that USC has produced?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I'm extremely ignorant to Barkley, so please be gentle here, but what separates Barkley from the other system QB's that USC has produced?

He's been a four year starter under terrible circumstances. USC has lost 15 scholarships per year since the Reggie Bush sanctions three years ago and all that USC has done is win and win big.

He's thrown 102 passes and 39 interceptions. He's not a one year starter like Sanchez or a NO YEAR starter like Cassel.

I think he compares favorably at this point to Matty Ryan, although USC has their biggest test ahead, Bowl season and of course, the Combines ahead.

The final determination of Barkley is still in play.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's been a four year starter under terrible circumstances. USC has lost 15 scholarships per year since the Reggie Bush sanctions three years ago and all that USC has done is win and win big.

He's thrown 102 passes and 39 interceptions. He's not a one year starter like Sanchez or a NO YEAR starter like Cassel.

I think he compares favorably at this point to Matty Ryan, although USC has their biggest test ahead, Bowl season and of course, the Combines ahead.

The final determination of Barkley is still in play.

Out of curiosity, if you had to rate your favorites for this draft class, how would the order stack up?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's been a four year starter under terrible circumstances. USC has lost 15 scholarships per year since the Reggie Bush sanctions three years ago and all that USC has done is win and win big.

He's thrown 102 passes and 39 interceptions. He's not a one year starter like Sanchez or a NO YEAR starter like Cassel.

I think he compares favorably at this point to Matty Ryan, although USC has their biggest test ahead, Bowl season and of course, the Combines ahead.

The final determination of Barkley is still in play.

The comparison to Matt Ryan is what worries me.

To this point in the NFL, he's been exactly what several people thought he would be - steady but unspectacular. Surround by superior talent, he hasn't managed to win a single playoff game.

Matt Ryan has a chance to erase all of those worries this season. But what if this is his ceiling? My worry with Barkley is that he just doesn't have "it".

I guess beggars can't be choosers.

[Woodchuck]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think he compares favorably at this point to Matty Ryan, although USC has their biggest test ahead, Bowl season and of course, the Combines ahead.

The final determination of Barkley is still in play.

Matt Ryan was/is a strong leader. Barkley hasn't shown that yet. He's not Matt Ryan. He doesn't have that kind of command. I see people taking the most important qualitites for granted way too much around here lately.

[Sorter]

Agree with that entire post.

Edit, minus the last part. I've only been unimpressed the last 3 weeks. This week wasn't horrible IIRC but I haven't re-watched it. Or any of those games, for that matter.