The Super Bowl was rigged...

[B2chiefsfan]

That is all...

[Sully]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I'm not 'punting', I'm just suggesting that you could READ A ****ING BOOK.

Sorry for such a garish suggestion. Next thing you know, I'll suggest eating a salad.

Forgive me for such a faux pas. I just figured that you'd understand that Dick Butkus knows that NFL was rigged because he was a key cog in the league before it became the giant spectacle that it is now.

The circles were a lot smaller back then, and Dick Butkus was not a stupid man. Are you willing to go that far??

I could read the book. I may do that one day. But right here and right now you are making claims in a discussion. I am simy asking for you to continue that doscussion. For some reason, this discussion is causing you to become emotional and insulting. I understand that's your thing, but it would be nice if you could discuss it logically.

[Steve Sewell]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

That's the real foundation of all this... Last years team was the best KC had in a very long time, and they put themselves into a hole early that they nearly crawled out of, but didn't.

Yep. The butthurt is strong with some of these folks who have lost all touch with reality.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Nzoner

Dude,I'm just stating a fact,it doesn't prove shit,but I find it quite interesting that a red,white and blue team called The Pats would make the Super Bowl after the worst terrorism attack this country has seen and then be introduced to the world like that.

Then you are easily interested in things that aren't very interesting.

[OctoberFart]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Actually, it's the dumb low rent mother****ers who can't spell (it's 'lowlives', not 'low life's', you ignorant dolt.)

It's dork NFL fanbois who base their lives around football who don't believe it's rigged.

Many adults know it's rigged. One of my best friends worked at Arrowhead (left during the Pioli meltdown); he knows it's rigged. We have several NFL players who have claimed that it's rigged. Any free thinking adult who isn't drunk and has a brain that developed beyond 12 years old know it's rigged.

Adults in suits have TV shows where they discuss just how rigged it really is, LOL

Basically, the only people who refuse to believe it, are overgrown manbois who are the Trekkie version of football fans. People posting on football message boards...

You don't WANT to believe; or you're simply not smart enough. The fact that you can barely spell on a 3rd grade level leads me to believe that it's the latter; you're too stupid to know better.

Nothing is more ironic than a low life who pulls the grammar smack and is wrong. Yes I was wrong but it is "lowlifes" and what the **** is Manbois? You need some remedial training before you can call people out. Regardless it is only the shit franchises and pathetic fans of those teams that think it is rigged.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Sully

I could read the book. I may do that one day. But right here and right now you are making claims in a discussion. I am simy asking for you to continue that doscussion. For some reason, this discussion is causing you to become emotional and insulting. I understand that's your thing, but it would be nice if you could discuss it logically.

I'm absolutely discussing it logically. But I'm repeating myself ad naseum at this point - we're answering things that have already been answered or are already transcribed somewhere else.

I'm not going to copy/paste the entire book, nor am I going to transcribe the Olbermann video for you.

If you don't have time to read a book or click a link or watch a 6 minute YouTube video, how do you have time for posting so much on this board??

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Actually, it's the dumb low rent mother****ers who can't spell (it's 'lowlives', not 'low life's', you ignorant dolt.)

It's dork NFL fanbois who base their lives around football who don't believe it's rigged.

Many adults know it's rigged. One of my best friends worked at Arrowhead (left during the Pioli meltdown); he knows it's rigged. We have several NFL players who have claimed that it's rigged. Any free thinking adult who isn't drunk and has a brain that developed beyond 12 years old know it's rigged.

Adults in suits have TV shows where they discuss just how rigged it really is, LOL

Basically, the only people who refuse to believe it, are overgrown manbois who are the Trekkie version of football fans. People posting on football message boards...

You don't WANT to believe; or you're simply not smart enough. The fact that you can barely spell on a 3rd grade level leads me to believe that it's the latter; you're too stupid to know better.

Yet, not a single one of them have a shred of evidence that proves without a doubt that it is rigged. Only opinions and speculation.

Opinions and speculation that dip shits like you present as facts to support your ridiculous conspiracy theories.

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Then you are easily interested in things that aren't very interesting.

Seeing that you've either scanned previous posts or you're reading comprehension sucks you would know my interest comes from gambling on the games for 30+ years,a very interesting hobby.

[BlackOp]

I'm not sure why people find it so hard to believe that games are being fixed. The mob invented the NFL specifically for circumventing a law that prevented gambling on Sundays.

That is the origin of the NFL...

The writer of Interference stated that 26 current or past owners had gambling/mob ties.

With the advent of internet gambling...people think it just magically went legit? I think most grew up not being privy to the actual history of this league...and are having a tough time accepting its not what they thought. It will be rigged until they legally move away from "sports entertainment" and are regulated.

[Toby Waller]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Yet, not a single one of them have a shred of evidence that proves without a doubt that it is rigged. Only opinions and speculation.

Opinions and speculation that dip shits like you present as facts to support your ridiculous conspiracy theories.

By your very definition,you have no proof games aren't rigged.
There is nothing you know or can say that says this or that game was played naturally and without a specific purpose. You are relying on faith that you are right .
It's simple for me to know it's bull when game after game after game is coming down to the final 2 minutes or final play. Life doesn't keep working out that perfectly and fantastically that often.
If games were real, most would be over half way through the 3rd quarter.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I'm not going to copy/paste the entire book, nor am I going to transcribe the Olbermann video for you.

Little hyperbole, here. I've asked you very specific things that you could answer without quoting much at all (if any). You could very easily just answer the questions.
You're repeating yourself because you think your speculation is fact, and it just isn't. no matter how condescending you act. no matter how many names you call. no matter how much logic you ignore... speculation doesn't equal fact (nor does it equal admission).
I'm sorry that your leaps of logic, when looked at intelligently, don't bear the fruit that you hope. But I commend you for trying.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Only opinions and speculation.

Even the "evidence" from players and former players is nothing but this.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

I'm not sure why people find it so hard to believe that games are being fixed.

I could believe it was fixed. i just need to see evidence and/or proof. I have yet to see any at all. And when those who claim to have proof (and who are smarter than the rest of us poor fools) are challenged on their inconsistencies, they become very emotional.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by smellypitts

By your very definition,you have no proof games aren't rigged.

You can't prove a negative. So your "gotcha" doesn't really work.
I mean, can you prove unicorns don't exist?

[Anyong Bluth]

C'mon - what is more plausible? Some games are being fixed in the biggest sport in America that has been setting the line week in and week out for decades. ESPN openly talks about the spread, and the NFL has plenty of business leverage to quash it if they wanted.

Is it collusion on a grand scale?
No

Outside parties I'm sure bribe to influence an outcome.

Since Goddell, whose was always entrenched in the marketing of the NFL, has taken over. I wouldn't be surprised if outcomes and storylines have been desired to create drama and drive the popularity - including massaging a desired way to have things play out. Obviously, not scripted, but subtlely. A few calls or how a game is called can dictate a lot in terms of impact. It's not blatantly rigging the outcome as much as putting your finger on the scale to favor one side .


Not a lot of owners are going to be outraged when the league is making them more profit year after year. These guys aren't Joe Q Public the diehard fan- their billionaire businessmen who can flaunt their wealth by owning an NFL franchise and make tens of millions of dollars a year.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Nzoner

Seeing that you've either scanned previous posts or you're reading comprehension sucks you would know my interest comes from gambling on the games for 30+ years,a very interesting hobby.

I understand all that. The only thing I can't comprehend is why someone would think a pre-game introduction is some sort of tip-off to the game being fixed. Not trying to be a dick, but that's just really out there.