NFL Draft Well, We Probably Should Have a Brian Orakpo Thread... - Page 3

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-09-2008, 07:08 PM

If we keep playing like this, we won't be in a position to draft Stafford. It's not good or bad, it is what it is.

With that being said, a genetic freak like Rak daddy would go a long way towards fixing the ills of this defense. He's not as long as Michael Johnson, but he's fast, explosive, and incredibly strong. Plus, he's taken boxing lessons, so Krumrie will love him with his ****tard slap-fight drill.

There could be worse selections in the 3-7 range where we will most likely choose.

milkman · 11-09-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

well, if we can't get stafford then yes DE is a top priority...

i have no idea which one is best though...i loved selvie when I watched him, but i don't know if he is big enough...

I like Michael Johnson a lot, but I think based simply on production, that Orakpo is the guy.

But you can't go wrong with either.

**cdcox** · 11-09-2008, 07:42 PM

They list him at 260. What do you think he really weighs? Do you think he can put on a little weight to get up to a legitimate 270 and keep his speed?

ChiefsCountry · 11-09-2008, 07:43 PM

Orakpo has jumped up high bc of his production wait till the combine when he puts some of the lifts up.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-09-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

He was basically a bust at DE, but he's been solid at OLB in the 3-4. He's better than Gholston is right now.

That literally means nothing. He's a 29 year old player. He should be better than a rookie who played "Leo" in college and is in his first year in a new position where he isn't getting any PT. The Jets are idiots for sitting a talent like Gholston while they try to win 9 games and get piss pounded in the first round

**The Bad Guy** · 11-09-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

FYP

You are correct.

Basileus777 · 11-09-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I was absolutely not pimping Lawson. I don't even know if I've mentioned him in more than five posts in this entire time I've been on the site.

You can't blame Gholston for the fact that their team was a year into a rebuild and then decided to sell out to win now, signing a bunch of aging and past their prime veterans, and giving the young guys no time to develop.

Gholston was not going to come in and have 15 sacks his first year, but if he is given time, he can be that kind of guy, especially in a system where he attacks, attacks, and attacks.

That's true enough. I was merely commenting on his production so far, a top 10 pick not being able to get on the field. I don't this its necessarily indicative of his future.

**the Talking Can** · 11-09-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Selvie: :Orakpo

Hali: : Mario Williams

that's a language i understand

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-09-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

They list him at 260. What do you think he really weighs? Do you think he can put on a little weight to get up to a legitimate 270 and keep his speed?

If a guy is that strong, it doesn't matter if he weighs 260, 240, or 380. He already has world class facilities at UT. There really isn't a difference in the strength and conditioning programs you get at major DI schools and the Pros. That should be more of a concern if he were coming from a mid-major or a DII school.

**DeezNutz** · 11-09-2008, 07:45 PM

How many high draft picks and FA dollars will we need to spend on the defense for it to be decent?

I'm not making this comment to criticize Orakpo--I'm just sayin...

It's sad we're commenting upon the huge need we have at DE, which is accurate, when we're starting a recent first and second rounder at both ends.

Basileus777 · 11-09-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That literally means nothing. He's a 29 year old player. He should be better than a rookie who played "Leo" in college and is in his first year in a new position where he isn't getting any PT. The Jets are idiots for sitting a talent like Gholston while they try to win 9 games and get piss pounded in the first round

Mangini has to win games to keep his job. They traded for Favre an signed a bunch of veteran free agents. The Jets are trying to win a Superbowl this year. I don't think they have a chance in hell of doing it, but if you want to win games you aren't going to play a raw rookie who doesn't know how to play OLB.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-09-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

That's true enough. I was merely commenting on his production so far, a top 10 pick not being able to get on the field. I don't this its necessarily indicative of his future.

Not being able to get on the field doesn't mean he is incapable of getting on the field, though. The Jets were reeruned making those moves in the offseason. Faneca, Pace, Favre, et. al. In three years, what is a 32 year old Calvin Pace going to give you, as opposed to a 26 year old Vernon Gholston who has 48 NFL games under his belt?

They are cutting off their nose to spite their face.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-09-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

How many high draft picks and FA dollars will we need to spend on the defense for it to be decent?

I'm not making this comment to criticize Orakpo--I'm just sayin...

It's sad we're commenting upon the huge need we have at DE, which is accurate, when we're starting a recent first and second rounder at both ends.

Neither one of those guys can play RDE, and they weren't drafted to do so.

Ultra Peanut · 11-09-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Selvie: :Orakpo

Hali: : Mario Williams

I like this comparison.

**DeezNutz** · 11-09-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Neither one of those guys can play RDE, and they weren't drafted to do so.

Not with Turk. He was a tweener who was supposed to be able to supply some pass rush. He was more than capable of playing all positions on the line, according to Herm, when the selection was made.

On a side note, spending a round-one pick on a LDE doesn't seem like sound business to me. Are you sure that Hali was tabbed as this coming out?

aturnis · 11-09-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

We have 3 enormous needs:

Pass rushing LDE.
Stud MLB
Completely new right side of the line

Since we can't draft a RT or RG that high, it's down to MLB or LDE.

Hopefully this Orakpo is all that. I know little to nothing about him.

Why LDE? Why not a RDE?

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