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Sure-Oz · 07:38 PM

CHIEFS TRADE TANK TYLER
October 19th – 7:48 PM

Breaking News: The Chiefs have traded DT Tank Tyler to the Carolina Panthers for an undisclosed draft pick in 2010.

Per josh looney twitter

UPDATE-The Chiefs got a fifth-rounder in 2010 for Tyler. Per Kent Babb twitter

**alanm** · 10-20-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I think that is a foregone conclusion.

I was hoping we'd make a run at Mike Nolan when he was available but I was told by the experts here that he was a product of his players in Baltimore ect. Well he's made chicken salad of Denver's defense.

milkman · 10-20-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AutumnWind

No he didn't. I have told fU#$ing moron fools time and time again that this guy would never be a factor in the NFL due to his terrible technique. You morons kept negative repping me even though I was 100 percent right. There aren't many guys on this site that know anything about football.

No dipshit, I said tank has talent.

Technique is an entirely different issue, and part of the reason he was never used right is because we had dipshits like you coaching him, so he was not used in the wrong spot, but never taught the right technique.

**SAUTO** · 10-20-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

did you guys hear about Oher talking shit on Allen?

something like "he wasn't that special, i held him down"

Oher did dominate in the 4th quarter

allen was most often invisible in the 4th qtr when he was here

Saccopoo · 10-21-2009, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

While that may be true, my point is on the impact he's had playing 5-technique.

Would you draft Ngata in the top 5 if your primary goal was to have him play his entire career as a 5-technique? Hypothetically. I think most people, based on the 2009 draft class, would say "absolutely."

I'd cut my left nut off for Ted Washington, and he averaged something like 43 tackles and 2 sacks a year. First pick in the draft if he was in this draft and every draft thereafter.

Ngata gives you even more flexibility with the same size and greater physical impact. Hell yes I'd draft him top five. And if the Chiefs trade Dorsey, Suh becomes the #1 guy in terms of need, thus garnering the top five status.

chagrin · 10-21-2009, 06:08 AM

Wait, we can't trade hiim...didn't he pass the vaunted Krumrie "hand slap" test? It would be nice if somehow the staff could judge talent by legitimate ways. Playing ****ing paddy cake isn't exactly a barometer for a ****ing nfl player. I know TK didn't draft the guy but he worked him out and I remember the hoopla about that stupid ****ing ridiculous bitch slap test.
Herm Edwards is a ****ing stupid idiot

**BossChief** · 10-21-2009, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chagrin

Wait, we can't trade hiim...didn't he pass the vaunted Krumrie "hand slap" test? It would be nice if somehow the staff could judge talent by legitimate ways. Playing ****ing paddy cake isn't exactly a barometer for a ****ing nfl player. I know TK didn't draft the guy but he worked him out and I remember the hoopla about that stupid ****ing ridiculous bitch slap test.
Herm Edwards is a ****ing stupid idiot

Krummries tests take alot of heat on here and other boards.

The guy gets no credit for the fact that hand usage, or as the ignorant would say "hand slapping", is the biggest thing a dlinemen needs to learn to transition properly from college to the pros. "hand slapping" is a huge part of what gets a dlinemen off blocks and allows him to be consistently disruptive. In college a guy can overpower his man, that ends in the pros.

For all the shit he takes, I think I am the only one that credits him with his success as well.

Jared Allen developed into a solid run defender and refined his pass rushing technique to become a dominant pass rusher under him

Glen Dorsey has grown by leaps and bounds under him, and will continue to progress in a role he isnt supposed to be cut out for.

Watch tape on how he does it and then thank TK

The work he did with Jimmy Wilkerson goes totally unnoticed and he has 5 sacks this year for tampa because CP was an idiot and let him go for nothing. If we still had him, we might have spent the third rounder where it needed to be spent, on the oline.

The guy deserves more credit than he gets.

Its not his fault we drafted Ryan Sims....

You have to watch him coach to appreciate how much he puts into it, he has more energy than any coach I have been around and those that have seen it can testify as well.

Krummrie knows his technique, he was undersized by 20 pounds at his position while he played and flourished because of his superior technique as a multiple probowler.

His heart allowed him to return from one of the most gruesome injuries in nfl history in below minimum time and you can see it in his players.

By years end, people will be all over his jock.

I honestly wouldnt be surprised to see him coordinate a defense of his own in a couple years.

**BossChief** · 10-21-2009, 06:50 AM

...also how many dlineman has he exposed in private workouts?

Alan Branch is the biggest example I can remember...

Chiefnj2 · 10-21-2009, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

The work he did with Jimmy Wilkerson goes totally unnoticed and he has 5 sacks this year for tampa because CP was an idiot and let him go for nothing. If we still had him, we might have spent the third rounder where it needed to be spent, on the oline.

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Wilkerson did nothing in KC. He changes teams/coaches and suddenly produces, and you want to credit Krumrie for it?

**BossChief** · 10-21-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Wilkerson did nothing in KC. He changes teams/coaches and suddenly produces, and you want to credit Krumrie for it?

You think no credit is deserved for TK?

JW played VERY well when he was allowed on the field.

Unfortunately, he played for a staff that thought Bartee was a corner, Boone was a defensive end, and Tank was a pass rusher...among other things.

I said the same thing last year.

EVERYONE knew he deserved a chance at starting here and was never given one.

Last year we only had 10 sacks, but the completely crazy part of that is that between Jared and Wilkerson that was another 20 sacks that went to other teams.

Krummrie put in the work and that work was let go for nothing and mismanaged from the business end.

You could make a better defense out of the players CP let go, than what he kept.

**BossChief** · 10-21-2009, 07:25 AM

Id also like to say that everone knew Wilkerson was going to be a project and not ready for a few years.

He made a calculated risk in coming out early and was let go when he clearly was starting to become disruptive and resembling the player he was at Oklahoma.

Chief Faithful · 10-21-2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

#1 Denver, 3-4 (won't be #1 after tonight. Rivers is shredding them)
#2 NYG 4-3
#3 Pitt 3-4
#4 Philly 4-3
#5 Washington 4-3
#6 New England 4-3
#7 Indy 4-3
#8 Green Bay 3-4
#9 New Orleans 4-3
#10 Miami 3-4

6 of the 10 D's run a 43 and 5 of the top 7.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/te...sition/defense

It would be interesting to compare these teams with how they are doing with special teams. Haley said one advantage of the 3-4 is more LBs to play special teams, which means more speed and better athletes.

Watching SD on Monday it was interesting to notice how many DLmen were on special teams. Conversely, special teams is one area the Chiefs have drastically improved since going to the 3-4.

Brock · 10-21-2009, 08:37 AM

Wilkerson did nothing in KC. Absolutely nothing. The fact that he's doing better now is just further proof that Slappy Krumrie sucks at his job.

**Buehler445** · 10-21-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good for you.

Not me.

I'd take Ohlshansky/Canty any day of the week over TJ and would have drafted a guy that would have made a difference this year, whether it be Maclin/Harvin in the return game/receiving or Moreno in the run game and so on.

The Chiefs give up 500 yards a game like Costco gives away free food on every aisle. Canty/Ohlshansky wouldn't have been worse.

Harvin/Moreno/Maclin/Crabtree could have been the difference between 1-5 and 3-2.

Think about that.

I think if they were dead set on TJ, they should have picked up those guys AND TJ. Just for depth. It's not like we don't have the cash, and could maybe keep these guys more fresh and hopefully keep from getting fatigue injuries. JMO.

I'm not really too high on taking a RB at 3. Maclin and Harvin, IMO were too high for 3 overall. I don't like TJ at 3 either. As soon as Sanchez was out, I really didn't like anybody there.

I'm disappointed that Lawrence isn't getting work on returns (not that he is on the level of Maclin or Harvin at either WR or KR), but he's got wheels and has potential to blow up a big play. TEACH the kid how to hold the ball, where to look for defenders and shit, don't plug some guy that's as slow as my fat ass back there but you don't have to coach up.

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chagrin Giggitty! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missoula, Mt Casino cash: $9874905	Wait, we can't trade hiim...didn't he pass the vaunted Krumrie "hand slap" test? It would be nice if somehow the staff could judge talent by legitimate ways. Playing **ing paddy cake isn't exactly a barometer for a ing nfl player. I know TK didn't draft the guy but he worked him out and I remember the hoopla about that stupid ing ridiculous bitch slap test. Herm Edwards is a **ing stupid idiot __________________ Times have changed, so have I, things are better now.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $464088	Id also like to say that everone knew Wilkerson was going to be a project and not ready for a few years. He made a calculated risk in coming out early and was let go when he clearly was starting to become disruptive and resembling the player he was at Oklahoma. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	Wilkerson did nothing in KC. Absolutely nothing. The fact that he's doing better now is just further proof that Slappy Krumrie sucks at his job.
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