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'Hamas' Jenkins · 10:00 PM

AfCasselstan

People like to ascribe many causes to the collapse of the Soviet Union, but one of the most overlooked is the fact that the leaders of the USSR bought into their own hype. Rather than critically analyzing situations, they wrapped the reality around the propaganda. This was no more apparent than in the Soviet-Afghan War.

The Politburo and Central Committee were largely torn on whether or not to “help” the ruling Afghan government of Nur Muhammad Taraki. Brezhnev, who by then was in his early seventies and suffering from chronic health problems, decided that it would be in the best interests of the country to spread the “April Revolution” and intervene in a civil war between Islamist Rebels and the Communist Government currently in power. But the Soviets largely shuffled their feet until Haifzullah Amin seized power, had Taraki executed, and further fanned the flames of discontent within the country with a series of repressive and Dranconian measures. What first began as an influx of military advisors later morphed into a full-scale invasion of the country once the Politburo realized that they had lost complete control of Amin and that he may be acting as a Rogue agent. Spetsnaz commandos stormed one of his palaces, and killed him with a hand grenade as he dove behind a bar for cover on an upper floor.

Thus began the 9+ year Soviet involvement in Afghanistan. Rather than admit they never should have entered the country, nor intervened in its continually escalating civil war, the Soviet higher ups were so convinced that the largely tribal Pashtuns and other ethnic groups of

Afghanistan

would accept Soviet-style communism simply because it was presented in front of them.

The Soviet military effort was a manual on how to **** up a counter insurgency. Not only were their individual soldiers woefully equipped for the drastic weather changes in Afghanistan, but much of the equipment they used was outdated, defective, or utterly worthless. Corruption and abuse were rampant within the military ranks. Senior enlisted men, called deda essentially acted as licensed torturers of the newly conscripted men, and routinely beat them, made them carry their gear, or burned them with cigarettes for simple pleasure.

Meanwhile, the Soviets incurred heavy losses from the increasingly well-equipped mujihadeen, many of whom used advanced guerilla warfare tactics. Unwilling to remain a stationary target for a much stronger conventional enemy, they set up ambushes, always sought out the high ground, and only attacked when it was strategically beneficial.

In spite of mounting Soviet casualties (which were officially listed as 15,000 for the conflict but in reality may have been nearer 50,000), the Soviet press was unable to report on the size of movements or casualty numbers. Anything larger than brigades were not to be mentioned, as the leaders did not want the public to think the USSR was even that deeply engaged in Afghanistan. Furthermore, reporters could not list any more than 3 deaths as a result of any one attack, again to provide the illusion of strength for the populace.

The ultimate story of the Soviet War in Afghanistan is that it was one undertaken by a paper tiger who thought that the strength of its rhetoric would be able to conquer the will of a people. The mere fact that the Soviets would bring the “April Revolution” would be, in and of itself, enough of a panacea to quell any conflicts.

The reality was far different.

Soviet soldiers nearly starved on the ground, and were prohibited from buying fruit and food from local merchants. Many of them resorted to brewing alcohol from jet fuel filtered through the carbon filters of their gas masks as a form of self medication. On a related note, we continue to starve our defense in a draft rich with talent at the most important positions and also those of greatest need.

Similarly, Pioli’s regime seems to have the approach that merely picking retreads, coaches, and complementary players will work because it was done by them. There seems to be no effort to actually critically analyze the strengths and weaknesses of these players and scout other teams’ needs relative to their own. Several examples can be given. The fact that their draft board only contains around 100 names is one.

The fact that they will almost exclusively pick players from two conferences is another.

Lets look back at the Chiefs’ last two drafts

Players selected by conference:

SEC: Berry, Jackson, McCluster, Arenas, Succop
Big Ten: Magee, Asamoah, Moeaki, Washington

All other conferences in all other levels of college football: Brown, Lawrence, O’Connell

Additionally, if we go back to the free agency activity of 2009 and 2010, we see that with rare exception, the people brought into the fold almost universally have past experience with someone from the regime.

Most importantly, the inability to admit a mistake. Just like the Soviets should have left Afghanistan in January of 1980 and saved themselves and the Afghan people over a million lives combined, the Chiefs should at some point cut bait with Matt Cassel. There will not be a lower risk—higher reward proposition than Jimmy Clausen. His salary would have been low and his familiarity with the terminology of the offense would have been high. One could make the claim that Charlie Weis did not want Clausen, but if that is the case, why are their multiple reports that he advocated for Clausen at multiple times, and according to Chris Mortenson on the draft telecast this evening, personally gave his own stamp of approval on the Panthers drafting Clausen. Even if Clausen isn’t Joe Montana (and he’s not), if we don’t take someone who meshes so perfectly with our offense, we aren’t taking another QB. Period.

Scott Pioli seems to think that drafting late round QBs is a winning proposition because it worked once for him with Tom Brady and because Matt Cassel put up good fantasy stats in 2008 when surrounded by the best skill position talent in the NFL.

We have hitched ourselves to Matt Cassel. We have invested nearly countless resources (Weis, Chambers, Asamoah, McCluster, Moeaki, Jones, Lilja, Wiegmann) this offseason just for the sole purpose of helping him out, not to mention a second round draft pick and 63 million dollars.

It will not work.

Matt Cassel is our Afghanistan and our stubborn inability to realize the futility of the situation will only further entrench ourselves as doormats of the NFL.

Hammock Parties · 04-23-2010, 10:18 PM

The sad thing is we'll probably go 6-10 this year and people will be chanting progress.

**Rausch** · 04-23-2010, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

This is the executive of the decade, asking for a SB contender in 3-4 years is not asking to much.

It does not take a decade to build a team.

It does not take a HC/GM combo 5 ****ing years to win a playoff game.

It should not, and if it does you need to question who you hired to do that.

I understand it's only year two but based on what I see so far don't expect me to jump for joy and bang a ****ing gong...

**cdcox** · 04-23-2010, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Cassel's arm sucks to much to utilize a real outside WR, notice Moss.

We get the slot guy he can dump it to 3 yards upfield 100 times.

It will take NFL coordinators about 1 week to figure out this scheme. We'll see defenses jumping routes for pick sixes and killing our new midget.

**Ming the Merciless** · 04-23-2010, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

This is the executive of the decade, asking for a playoff winner in 3-4 years is not asking to much.

Then why don't we give him 3-4 years....I have seen multiple 'experts' on this board unwilling to give him 3 more seconds let alone 3 more years.

Please remember these words you spoke.

**notorious** · 04-23-2010, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox

It will take NFL coordinators about 1 week to figure out this scheme. We'll see defenses jumping routes for pick sixes and killing our new midget.

When they start jumping routes you have the WR's do a hitch and go route.

Then the QB hit's them deep.... Oh. Wait.

Hammock Parties · 04-23-2010, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox

It will take NFL coordinators about 1 week to figure out this scheme. We'll see defenses jumping routes for pick sixes and killing our new midget.

Just think, we have four more years of this to deal with before Pioli is gone.

Clark will not fire him.

**RealSNR** · 04-23-2010, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious

When they start jumping routes you have the WR's do a hitch and go route.

Then the QB hit's them deep.... Oh. Wait.

Hammock Parties · 04-23-2010, 10:25 PM

I really hate the Chiefs right now.

They aren't getting a dime of my money this year.

Mecca · 04-23-2010, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox

It will take NFL coordinators about 1 week to figure out this scheme. We'll see defenses jumping routes for pick sixes and killing our new midget.

See Pioli is not smart enough to realize we don't have the fear factor that is Moss, if you took Moss off NE Wes Welker would not be remotely close to what he is.

MadMax · 04-23-2010, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Cassel's arm sucks to much to utilize a real outside WR, notice Moss.

We get the slot guy he can dump it to 3 yards upfield 100 times.

Exciting football to be sure... This shit fascinates me in a weird way. The dump pass is soooo beautiful to watch.

**notorious** · 04-23-2010, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

Exciting football to be sure... This shit fascinates me in a weird way. The dump pass is soooo beautiful to watch.

You had to jerk your dick til it was raw during the Marty years.

That **** loves swing passes.

Mecca · 04-23-2010, 10:30 PM

Our offense won't be complete till we get a Kimble Anders clone.

**Rausch** · 04-23-2010, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Then why don't we give him 3-4 years....I have seen multiple 'experts' on this board unwilling to give him 3 more seconds let alone 3 more years.

Please remember these words you spoke.

I have more faith in Pioli than Haley...

**DeezNutz** · 04-23-2010, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch

I have more faith in Pioli than Haley...

Who hired whom?

**notorious** · 04-23-2010, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Our offense won't be complete till we get a Kimble Anders clone.

Can we jam a pin in Cassel's thumb like Deberg? It might help, and it certainly wouldn't hurt.

04-23-2010, 09:44 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7219572	AfCasselstan AfCasselstan People like to ascribe many causes to the collapse of the Soviet Union, but one of the most overlooked is the fact that the leaders of the USSR bought into their own hype. Rather than critically analyzing situations, they wrapped the reality around the propaganda. This was no more apparent than in the Soviet-Afghan War. The Politburo and Central Committee were largely torn on whether or not to “help” the ruling Afghan government of Nur Muhammad Taraki. Brezhnev, who by then was in his early seventies and suffering from chronic health problems, decided that it would be in the best interests of the country to spread the “April Revolution” and intervene in a civil war between Islamist Rebels and the Communist Government currently in power. But the Soviets largely shuffled their feet until Haifzullah Amin seized power, had Taraki executed, and further fanned the flames of discontent within the country with a series of repressive and Dranconian measures. What first began as an influx of military advisors later morphed into a full-scale invasion of the country once the Politburo realized that they had lost complete control of Amin and that he may be acting as a Rogue agent. Spetsnaz commandos stormed one of his palaces, and killed him with a hand grenade as he dove behind a bar for cover on an upper floor. Thus began the 9+ year Soviet involvement in Afghanistan. Rather than admit they never should have entered the country, nor intervened in its continually escalating civil war, the Soviet higher ups were so convinced that the largely tribal Pashtuns and other ethnic groups of Afghanistan would accept Soviet-style communism simply because it was presented in front of them. The Soviet military effort was a manual on how to **** up a counter insurgency. Not only were their individual soldiers woefully equipped for the drastic weather changes in Afghanistan, but much of the equipment they used was outdated, defective, or utterly worthless. Corruption and abuse were rampant within the military ranks. Senior enlisted men, called deda essentially acted as licensed torturers of the newly conscripted men, and routinely beat them, made them carry their gear, or burned them with cigarettes for simple pleasure. Meanwhile, the Soviets incurred heavy losses from the increasingly well-equipped mujihadeen, many of whom used advanced guerilla warfare tactics. Unwilling to remain a stationary target for a much stronger conventional enemy, they set up ambushes, always sought out the high ground, and only attacked when it was strategically beneficial. In spite of mounting Soviet casualties (which were officially listed as 15,000 for the conflict but in reality may have been nearer 50,000), the Soviet press was unable to report on the size of movements or casualty numbers. Anything larger than brigades were not to be mentioned, as the leaders did not want the public to think the USSR was even that deeply engaged in Afghanistan. Furthermore, reporters could not list any more than 3 deaths as a result of any one attack, again to provide the illusion of strength for the populace. The ultimate story of the Soviet War in Afghanistan is that it was one undertaken by a paper tiger who thought that the strength of its rhetoric would be able to conquer the will of a people. The mere fact that the Soviets would bring the “April Revolution” would be, in and of itself, enough of a panacea to quell any conflicts. The reality was far different. Soviet soldiers nearly starved on the ground, and were prohibited from buying fruit and food from local merchants. Many of them resorted to brewing alcohol from jet fuel filtered through the carbon filters of their gas masks as a form of self medication. On a related note, we continue to starve our defense in a draft rich with talent at the most important positions and also those of greatest need. Similarly, Pioli’s regime seems to have the approach that merely picking retreads, coaches, and complementary players will work because it was done by them. There seems to be no effort to actually critically analyze the strengths and weaknesses of these players and scout other teams’ needs relative to their own. Several examples can be given. The fact that their draft board only contains around 100 names is one. The fact that they will almost exclusively pick players from two conferences is another. Lets look back at the Chiefs’ last two drafts Players selected by conference: SEC: Berry, Jackson, McCluster, Arenas, Succop Big Ten: Magee, Asamoah, Moeaki, Washington All other conferences in all other levels of college football: Brown, Lawrence, O’Connell Additionally, if we go back to the free agency activity of 2009 and 2010, we see that with rare exception, the people brought into the fold almost universally have past experience with someone from the regime. Most importantly, the inability to admit a mistake. Just like the Soviets should have left Afghanistan in January of 1980 and saved themselves and the Afghan people over a million lives combined, the Chiefs should at some point cut bait with Matt Cassel. There will not be a lower risk—higher reward proposition than Jimmy Clausen. His salary would have been low and his familiarity with the terminology of the offense would have been high. One could make the claim that Charlie Weis did not want Clausen, but if that is the case, why are their multiple reports that he advocated for Clausen at multiple times, and according to Chris Mortenson on the draft telecast this evening, personally gave his own stamp of approval on the Panthers drafting Clausen. Even if Clausen isn’t Joe Montana (and he’s not), if we don’t take someone who meshes so perfectly with our offense, we aren’t taking another QB. Period. Scott Pioli seems to think that drafting late round QBs is a winning proposition because it worked once for him with Tom Brady and because Matt Cassel put up good fantasy stats in 2008 when surrounded by the best skill position talent in the NFL. We have hitched ourselves to Matt Cassel. We have invested nearly countless resources (Weis, Chambers, Asamoah, McCluster, Moeaki, Jones, Lilja, Wiegmann) this offseason just for the sole purpose of helping him out, not to mention a second round draft pick and 63 million dollars. It will not work. Matt Cassel is our Afghanistan and our stubborn inability to realize the futility of the situation will only further entrench ourselves as doormats of the NFL. Last edited by 'Hamas' Jenkins; 04-23-2010 at 10:00 PM..
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