Barry Richardson

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Richardson slipped due to concerns over his fire. The fact that he cares that much is a positive sign, even if it is a silver lining on a cloud of dumbassery.

I won't argue that. He needs to cut down on mistakes on the field as well as the sidelines as well though.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I won't argue that. He needs to cut down on mistakes on the field as well as the sidelines as well though.

You're really missing the point here:

Haley cost the Chiefs not only seven points by his actions but three points as well.

Richardson struggled at times today. He played very well last week against a DE that had 8 sacks on the season. He didn't give up a sack and the Chiefs scored 42 points against a division leading team. He hadn't started at left tackle in four years. To state he was benched for what was supposed to be ONE PLAY because of last week is absolutely ludicrous.

Back to today's game. After two penalties in one series, Haley should have called a time out. Instead, he unfairly pulled Richardson, which led to ZERO POINTS.

The bottom line is that Haley needs to be held accountable for the failure of that drive. Period.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're really missing the point here:

Haley cost the Chiefs not only seven points by his actions but three points as well.

Richardson struggled at times today. He played very well last week against a DE that had 8 sacks on the season. He didn't give up a sack and the Chiefs scored 42 points against a division leading team. He hadn't started at left tackle in four years. To state he was benched for what was supposed to be ONE PLAY because of last week is absolutely ludicrous.

Back to today's game. After two penalties in one series, Haley should have called a time out. Instead, he unfairly pulled Richardson, which led to ZERO POINTS.

The bottom line is that Haley needs to be held accountable for the failure of that drive. Period.

No doubt we should have kicked a FG and that is all on Haley but my point all along has simply been Richardson didn't get pulled for that one play.

I hope he starts the rest of the season. A bad couple of games doesn't a season make for a RT. He played poorly in Denver as well. Maybe it's a Denver thing.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

No doubt we should have kicked a FG and that is all on Haley but my point all along has simply been Richardson didn't get pulled for that one play.

There is absolutely NO reason to believe that he was pulled for any other reason than the offsides penalty.

According to the people at the game, they were desperately trying to get him back in the game but he was too angry to realize what was happening.

And since they pulled him in Denver and sat him on the bench the rest of the game, there was no reason for him to believe that he'd be returning (which he did, of course, in the very next offensive series).

It was a dumb move that proved nothing, other than the fact that Todd Haley does not practice what he preaches.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

No. Richardson took himself out of the play by shoving a coach, shoving another player, thowing a temper tantrum, and leaving the area.

Seriously Sully, you shouldn't keep arguing this point. The television cameras didn't capture everything that went on.

I'm not arguing. I'm asking.
Every part of what you said and what others have said could be true, and it still doesn't logically (to me) fit the conclusion you are making, which, if I understand correctly, is this;
Richardson was pulled, and some coach decided he was to be subbed back in after one play (doesn't make sense), but the ST coach made the call that the sub was too late (also doesn't make sense).
So I'm simply asking, at this point to understand if that's truly the argument.

My take on it is that he was pulled, threw his tantrum, some coach told him he needed to be ready for a FG attempt (even if Haley had made up his mind to go for it, if 3rd down was stuffed for a big loss, you can bet he'd change his mind), in his tantrum he saw that it was 4th and began to run out, and the ST coach pulled him.

Since no one can answer which coach sprinted down to put him in, or why that coach (if it wasn't Hoffman) wasn't the one to pull him, or why, of all the coaches in the area, the ST guy was the one to make the call, I'm going with my gut... Especially knowing the ownership position coaches put on their guys.

I've stipulated several times I could be wrong.

But I'm simply asking questions.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Sully

I'm not arguing. I'm asking.
Every part of what you said and what others have said could be true, and it still doesn't logically (to me) fit the conclusion you are making, which, if I understand correctly, is this;
Richardson was pulled, and some coach decided he was to be subbed back in after one play (doesn't make sense), but the ST coach made the call that the sub was too late (also doesn't make sense).
So I'm simply asking, at this point to understand if that's truly the argument.

My take on it is that he was pulled, threw his tantrum, some coach told him he needed to be ready for a FG attempt (even if Haley had made up his mind to go for it, if 3rd down was stuffed for a big loss, you can bet he'd change his mind), in his tantrum he saw that it was 4th and began to run out, and the ST coach pulled him.

Since no one can answer which coach sprinted down to put him in, or why that coach (if it wasn't Hoffman) wasn't the one to pull him, or why, of all the coaches in the area, the ST guy was the one to make the call, I'm going with my gut... Especially knowing the ownership position coaches put on their guys.

I've stipulated several times I could be wrong.

But I'm simply asking questions.

Fair enough. My take is a little different. I figured Haley or the offensive line coach said "Where the fuck is Richardson?", and the coach closest to him said "Barry, get your ass back on the field!".

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Fair enough. My take is a little different. I figured Haley or the offensive line coach said "Where the fuck is Richardson?", and the coach closest to him said "Barry, get your ass back on the field!".

I think it's that simple. There's way too much analysis in this thread about a situation that was, again, a complete cluster****.

[jspchief]

Good grief the dumbassery is strong in this thread.

Richardson had a poor game, the culmination being a false start on the goal line followed by blowing his stack.

But to the lay the "failure" of the offense on him is full reerun. First off, the offense didn't fail. We dominated that game for the better part of 3 qtrs. Secondly, that choke job on the goal line started with Moeaki and ended with Haley gagging worse than a new hooker on " free deep throat night".

The fact that the entire offense folded like a cheap lawn chair after that drive is commentary on this team's lack of toughness, not Richardson's ability to sink a perfectly good ship.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Good grief the dumbassery is strong in this thread.

Richardson had a poor game, the culmination being a false start on the goal line followed by blowing his stack.

But to the lay the "failure" of the offense on him is full reerun. First off, the offense didn't fail. We dominated that game for the better part of 3 qtrs. Secondly, that choke job on the goal line started with Moeaki and ended with Haley gagging worse than a new hooker on " free deep throat night".

The fact that the entire offense folded like a cheap lawn chair after that drive is commentary on this team's lack of toughness, not Richardson's ability to sink a perfectly good ship.

Who laid the failure of the offense on him?

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Who laid the failure of the offense on him?

Oops. Never mind. The OP says it.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Who laid the failure of the offense on him?

The thread starter

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Good grief the dumbassery is strong in this thread.

Richardson had a poor game, the culmination being a false start on the goal line followed by blowing his stack.

But to the lay the "failure" of the offense on him is full reerun. First off, the offense didn't fail. We dominated that game for the better part of 3 qtrs. Secondly, that choke job on the goal line started with Moeaki and ended with Haley gagging worse than a new hooker on " free deep throat night".

The fact that the entire offense folded like a cheap lawn chair after that drive is commentary on this team's lack of toughness, not Richardson's ability to sink a perfectly good ship.

While I agree with what you've stated, I still contend that they were either underworked or overworked this past week because they were "braindead" on several series today.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Good grief the dumbassery is strong in this thread.

Richardson had a poor game, the culmination being a false start on the goal line followed by blowing his stack.

But to the lay the "failure" of the offense on him is full reerun. First off, the offense didn't fail. We dominated that game for the better part of 3 qtrs. Secondly, that choke job on the goal line started with Moeaki and ended with Haley gagging worse than a new hooker on " free deep throat night".

The fact that the entire offense folded like a cheap lawn chair after that drive is commentary on this team's lack of toughness, not Richardson's ability to sink a perfectly good ship.

To start I will say I am a BR supporter. I like him but....Correct me if I am wrong but BR got called for at least 2 other penalties prior to the one on the goal line and if I remember correctly there wasn't a penalty on a single other OL the entire game.

It wasn't about the one call.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

To start I will say I am a BR supporter. I like him but....Correct me if I am wrong but BR got called for at least 2 other penalties prior to the one on the goal line and if I remember correctly there wasn't a penalty on a single other OL the entire game.

It wasn't about the one call.

Richardson had 1 previous false start. No question he had a bad game. Besides the penalties he was getting his ass handed to him, the frustration of which probably contributed to his explosion at being pulled.


But there are several comments about making him inactive next week, looking to replace him, etc. That are complete over reactions.

People want a goat because we were all foaming at the mouth for payback for the last game. In spite of dominating the Broncos through 3 qtrs, fans came away feeling lucky to win.

You wanna say BR had a shitty game? It's true. Deserving of it's own thread? OK, sure. But there's been some stupid shit said in this thread.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Richardson had 1 previous false start. No question he had a bad game. Besides the penalties he was getting his ass handed to him, the frustration of which probably contributed to his explosion at being pulled.


But there are several comments about making him inactive next week, looking to replace him, etc. That are complete over reactions.

People want a goat because we were all foaming at the mouth for payback for the last game. In spite of dominating the Broncos through 3 qtrs, fans came away feeling lucky to win.

You wanna say BR had a shitty game? It's true. Deserving of it's own thread? OK, sure. But there's been some stupid shit said in this thread.

Yea I think you are right one other penalty but several other bad plays resulting in negative plays.

Problem is he stood out when the rest of the o-line appeared to play well.

I still want him starting the rest of the season but none of it excuses his behavior on the sideline. Period.

Have a shitty game, be pissed about being pulled but don't act like a dumbass because you are pulled for having a shitty game. Owe up to it and drive on.