Chiefs Barry Richardson - Page 8

TheGuardian · 12-05-2010, 03:08 PM

Dude sucks. He was the main reason the offense went into the toilet today. Couldn't run block, couldn't pass block. Got his ass whipped 1 on 1 all day.

DRU · 12-05-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by l0rd0s3

You're right, I wasn't at the game. I'm saying apparently your theory doesn't make sense because the timeline is all wrong.

How do you figure? 3rd down happened, we didn't make it. Coach sprints after Richardson while the rest of the team is headed onto the field to go for it on 4th. By the time he gets there it's too late. Then we run 4th down.

How exactly does my timeline not make sense?

RustShack · 12-05-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

The thing that pissed me off about the play is not that he had a penalty, but that when he came off the field all hot headed, pushing people, including the coach, then walked all the way down the other end of the bench to be all by himself.

Meanwhile, we're about to go for it on 4th down and the coaches wanted him back in the game on that play. A coach had to sprint from one end of the bench all the way to the other end to tell his dumb ass to get back in the game but then it was too late and they just went with it. Of course, we all know what wound up happening there.

That entire series of events was just messed up in my opinion. It was a big moment in the game, we had a guy causing distractions on the sidelines, didn't have the personnel in the game that we wanted, didn't call a timeout to calm things down, but rather just shit on ourselves all around.

That isn't what happened at all... dumbass.

DRU · 12-05-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

That isn't what happened at all... dumbass.

LOL. You TV people don't even realize what you're missing.

**the Talking Can** · 12-05-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by l0rd0s3

Keep arguing about the same things over and over - whats the point?

He got yanked - he lost his cool.

Until you know the guy or know his coach there is no point in arguing whether pulling him out for the play was the right thing to do.

No worries.

Is it always like this over here?

this is a message board...that's the whole point of this place

god damn noobs

Sully · 12-05-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

I'm a born and raised, die-hard Chiefs fan, but I don't know all of the assistant coach's faces and without numbers it's a little tough anyway from the stands. I'm really not sure which coach it was that ran after him.

My view of the Chiefs bench is from behind and Barry came off on the far left side of the bench. That's when the tantrum began and he was pushing and shoving anybody in his way all the way down to the complete opposite side (far right) all by himself.

A coach that was still on the far left began running after him what looked like as fast as he could and he's the one who tapped Barry on the shoulder and pointed towards the field. That's when Barry turned around and started on but then was pulled right back off.

The TV only caught him getting pulled back off. There was a lot more going on before that.

The TV showed him pull his mouthpiece out and immediately put it back in and run to the field. While I think your probably exaggerating how far down the sideline he was, I won't argue it since that wasn't clear on TV.
However, I can't think of a logical reason that the ST coach, standing with other coaches, would be the one to make the decision that an offensive sub wouldn't get on the field quick enough and make the call to pull him, which is the scenario you seem to be pushing.

Sully · 12-05-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

How do you figure? 3rd down happened, we didn't make it. Coach sprints after Richardson while the rest of the team is headed onto the field to go for it on 4th. By the time he gets there it's too late. Then we run 4th down.

How exactly does my timeline not make sense?

Why would the "rest of the team be headed out on the field" on a 4th down play?

I think you're confused.

**Bearcat** · 12-05-2010, 05:30 PM

I was going to wait for George's 10 Things, since he'll know best, but DRU is right... I watched it from the other side of the field. I couldn't tell who was who as far as coaches, but Richardson was on the opposite end of the bench, a coach had to run and get him, then Richardson got to about midfield and turned back to the sideline. I'd guess the coach had to go at least 25 yards to grab Richardson.

l0rd0s3 · 12-05-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

this is a message board...that's the whole point of this place

god damn noobs

Not new, just avoid this place because all (most) of you guys ever do is argue. There are plenty of places online to talk Chiefs where people don't get their diapers in a bunch every 2 minutes. About once a year is a good enough reminder why I don't hang around. peace.

RustShack · 12-05-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU

LOL. You TV people don't even realize what you're missing.

There were other people running on the field with him at the same time. How would he have been too late and not the others?

**kysirsoze** · 12-05-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sully's already covered this

I disagree with his take. It's all specualtion, though.

DRU · 12-05-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

The TV showed him pull his mouthpiece out and immediately put it back in and run to the field. While I think your probably exaggerating how far down the sideline he was, I won't argue it since that wasn't clear on TV.
However, I can't think of a logical reason that the ST coach, standing with other coaches, would be the one to make the decision that an offensive sub wouldn't get on the field quick enough and make the call to pull him, which is the scenario you seem to be pushing.

Can somebody that was at the game please back me up here? It was probably 20 yard line to 20 yard line that the coach ran after him. MAYBE 30 to 30.

Again, the TV broadcast did not show that series of events correctly. They showed a REPLAY of Barry pushing the coach but did not show the entire tantrum down the sideline and the coach running after him.

As for the exact reason they wound up pulling him back after having ran after him, maybe they thought it was too late, maybe they had decided they didn't want him in there in that state of mind, I don't know.

I say again, the point I'm really trying to push here, and I think anybody that was at the game can attest to this, is that the sideline was a mess at that moment. They looked confused, and many of the coaches and players were worried about Richardson instead of the big 4th down play that was coming up. All I've been trying to say is they should have called a timeout to settle things down rather than go out there and shit on themselves like they did.

I think of this way a little bit, too. Everybody around me in my section saw the same thing I did and were all focused more on Richardson than the actual 3rd and 4th down plays. So were many of the coaches and players. It was a messy sideline and it turned into a messy play at a big time. It all started because of a tantrum.

DRU · 12-05-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully

Why would the "rest of the team be headed out on the field" on a 4th down play?

I think you're confused.

Because they were in 4 down mode and knew they were going for it. Not confused at all. That was my theory when it happened live and Haley confirmed it (that they were in 4 down mode) in the post-game press conference.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-05-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I disagree with his take. It's all specualtion, though.

I just deleted this game from both DVR's, so I can't go back and check.

But at the time it occurred, I thought it was Steve Hoffman, the special teams coach that not only got pushed, but that pulled Richardson off the field.

Either way, Haley should have called a timeout to settle his team down, which I said in the game chat.

DRU · 12-05-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

I was going to wait for George's 10 Things, since he'll know best, but DRU is right... I watched it from the other side of the field. I couldn't tell who was who as far as coaches, but Richardson was on the opposite end of the bench, a coach had to run and get him, then Richardson got to about midfield and turned back to the sideline. I'd guess the coach had to go at least 25 yards to grab Richardson.

Yes, I'm sure George can confirm everything I've said and probably will touch on it in his 10 things post. I'm his section but he's a little closer.

**kysirsoze** · 12-05-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I just deleted this game from both DVR's, so I can't go back and check.

But at the time it occurred, I thought it was Steve Hoffman, the special teams coach that not only got pushed, but that pulled Richardson off the field.

Either way, Haley should have called a timeout to settle his team down, which I said in the game chat.

Definitely agree with that. Way too much confusion for a 4th down try.

12-05-2010, 03:08 PM
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Bearcat Would an idiot do that? Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Arizona Casino cash: $-865069	I was going to wait for George's 10 Things, since he'll know best, but DRU is right... I watched it from the other side of the field. I couldn't tell who was who as far as coaches, but Richardson was on the opposite end of the bench, a coach had to run and get him, then Richardson got to about midfield and turned back to the sideline. I'd guess the coach had to go at least 25 yards to grab Richardson. __________________
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