Dakota Fanning to be raped onscreen

[Hammock Parties]

This is disturbing. I hope people boycott this movie because there's no need for crap like this.


Dakota, 12, to star in 'disturbing paedophile film'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1773

Child actress Dakota Fanning will appear in a controversial new movie featuring paedophile scenes.

War of the Worlds star Dakota, 12, has signed up to appear in Hounddog.

The screenplay calls for Fanning's character to be raped in one explicit scene and to appear naked or clad only in "underpants" in several other horrifying moments.

A source close to the film said: "The two taboos in Hollywood are child abuse and the killing of animals.

"In this movie, both things happen." Fanning's mother, Joy, and her Hollywood agent, Cindy Osbrink, see the movie, written and directed by Deborah Kampmeier, as a possible Oscar vehicle for the pint-size star.

But despite Fanning's status as a bankable actress - whose movies, including last year's War of the Worlds have earned more than half a billion dollars since 2001 - the alarming material seems to have scared off potential investors, according to the New York Daily News.

The film charts the life of a girl who is abused and finds solace in the music of Elvis Presley.

Fanning's carefully choreographed rape scene has already been filmed. But then the production - which also stars Robin Wright Penn, David Morse and Piper Laurie - was stopped because of a lack of money.

But emergency investors were found and the movie is set to be finished by the end of the week.

"It's not just the rape scene - the whole story is challenging Dakota as an actress," Fanning's agent, Osbrink, said.

"And I've never been so proud of her in my life. In every scene she gets better and better."

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

Have you ever gone back and read some of the bile you spew? Makes you wonder what kind of guy that would say some of that shit.

Seriously? This has been hashed and rehashed... some of use don't view films as just some form of entertainment and enjoy things with greater depth than Transformers II and Showgirls. I like my mind to be challenged... more than that, I absolutely LOVE for my own ideals to be challenged.

I watched The Woodsman a while ago and by the end of it had my own emotional roller coaster going on in my head, torn within my own mind at the fact that not only did I care about the pedophile character, but actually felt sympathy toward him. That'll mess with your mind when you think you should know how to feel and you end up feeling something different.

I love it when a film can move me like that. There's nothing greater, in my opinion, than having anger or fear or regret or sympathy... or the entire human condition on display in a way that makes me truly feel for the characters on screen. I love movies that make me cry or genuinely make me angry or inspire me or myriad other things. It's good storytelling at its most basic, and it's the reason I wanted to make films.

To say I wanted to see this film because it had a rape of a 12-year-old girl is ludicrous, insulting and completely uninformed. Three adjectives that seem to follow you around, Pioli Zombie.

Have I ever brought up children in my "bile"? (With the exception of today when comparing what will happen to the Chiefs today to the new Dakota Fanning film).
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[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

As Dante suggested, I was being sardonic. I thought Donger's post was one of the most ridiculous things I'd read. No one suggested that raping a 12-year-old girl was OK. No one. That doesn't mean the subject matter isn't rife with possibility for a film. Barry Levinson did it successfully in Sleepers, but my guess is everyone thought that was OK because the movie became one about revenge. This one happens to be about coping, how to fill the emptiness and the violation with something constructive so that it doesn't eat you alive.

I didn't say that Hounddog was particularly interesting or insightful. I was hopeful, but in the end was let down. As I said in the post that resurrected this thread, it was OK. I didn't hate it. One of the major complaints about the movie (besides the rape scene) is that it's heavy-handed, and that complaint is very valid.

What I find interesting about the level of vitriol over this movie is when I compare it to the reaction garnered over Irreversible, the French film starring Monica Bellucci. Many on here tout that as a wonderful film, myself included. But that movie contains an 11-minute rape scene that is the most graphic and disturbing scene I've ever seen captured on film. I wept when I saw that scene, and remains to be the only scene I can remember off hand that literally had me turning away. It physically sickened me. Yet that movie is lauded, and people post that scene in a pictures thread so people can see Bellucci's breasts.

Certainly makes me question the hypocrisy of many on this board when I see people fawn over Bellucci's breasts in one post and decry Hounddog without having even seen it in another.

Serious question as I don't know of the film you are talking about. Is Monica Belluci 12?
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[Donger]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

Sometimes you're an idiot.

Not sure if you're aware of this, but Dakota Fanning was not raped in that movie. See, acting is like make believe. When they shot Marvin's face off in Pulp Fiction, it was just makeup and effects. Marvin didn't actually get his face shot off. It's a movie. It didn't really happen.

I've got a degree in film, so I'm sure it may confuse you when you see something happen in the big TV box that it's not really happening, so you'll just have to take my word for it. I had to study the moving pictures for four years to really get a grasp on it myself.

No harm, no foul.

Yeah. thanks for the hot tip.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

No one suggested that raping a 12-year-old girl was OK. No one.

Really? Seems like there are plenty of people who condone child rape in Hollywood, just because the rapist is "an artist."

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

I wept when I saw that scene, and remains to be the only scene I can remember off hand that literally had me turning away. It physically sickened me.

Why? You do know it's just make believe, right?

[Iowanian]

Interestingly enough, the NY Giants are preparing to do the same thing to my Chiefs today.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Serious question as I don't know of the film you are talking about. Is Monica Belluci 12?
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Honestly, and I know I'm going to get hammered on this, but why does it matter? Rape is despicable and horrifying in any case, whether against a 12-year-old or a 30-year-old. There is a belief among many that raping a child is worse because of the impact on the victim, but we see the same impact on victims no matter the age. Maybe the belief is that it's worse on a child because they're less able to defend, but what is rape really, but the exertion of power of one over the other? The nature of the crime is about attacking someone not able to defend themselves against the rape. I guess I find the crime itself disgusting, horrifying and loathsome... it doesn't matter to me if it's a child or a fully-grown person.

I don't particularly believe that crimes against children should be punished differently than those against adults. Now before anyone goes off the deep end with that, did I say that crimes against children should be punished as if they were adults? No. On the contrary, I tend to believe that crimes against adults should be punished more harshly.

No, Bellucci was not a pre-teen in Irreversible. You can find that scene on this board if you're so inclined to view it. I think you'll find that it very literally feels real. The sense, at least for me, was that I was watching an actual rape. To describe it: It's 11 to 12 minutes long, static camera shot from the floor of an empty underground tunnel. It's one shot, the camera doesn't move, and you feel like you've walked in on the rape. It's very real, it's very disturbing, and it is very graphic. For all intents and purposes, it's a videotaped rape. At least that's how it made me feel - like a voyeur in the tunnel who couldn't turn away and was helpless to stop it.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

Honestly, and I know I'm going to get hammered on this, but why does it matter? Rape is despicable and horrifying in any case, whether against a 12-year-old or a 30-year-old. There is a belief among many that raping a child is worse because of the impact on the victim, but we see the same impact on victims no matter the age. Maybe the belief is that it's worse on a child because they're less able to defend, but what is rape really, but the exertion of power of one over the other? The nature of the crime is about attacking someone not able to defend themselves against the rape. I guess I find the crime itself disgusting, horrifying and loathsome... it doesn't matter to me if it's a child or a fully-grown person.

I don't particularly believe that crimes against children should be punished differently than those against adults. Now before anyone goes off the deep end with that, did I say that crimes against children should be punished as if they were adults? No. On the contrary, I tend to believe that crimes against adults should be punished more harshly.

No, Bellucci was not a pre-teen in Irreversible. You can find that scene on this board if you're so inclined to view it. I think you'll find that it very literally feels real. The sense, at least for me, was that I was watching an actual rape. To describe it: It's 11 to 12 minutes long, static camera shot from the floor of an empty underground tunnel. It's one shot, the camera doesn't move, and you feel like you've walked in on the rape. It's very real, it's very disturbing, and it is very graphic. For all intents and purposes, it's a videotaped rape. At least that's how it made me feel - like a voyeur in the tunnel who couldn't turn away and was helpless to stop it.

Wow. Just wow.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Donger

Really? Seems like there are plenty of people who condone child rape in Hollywood, just because the rapist is "an artist."

I don't think anyone here did. Could be wrong. I certainly didn't say it. What I did say was that it was OK to portray it on film because it's not really happening.

It's also interesting to note that six years ago Polanski's victim herself said she wished the world would forgive him and that he's paid for his crime, reiterating those sentiments just a year ago: Samantha Geimer said, "Straight up, what he did to me was wrong. But I wish he would return to America so the whole ordeal can be put to rest for both of us." Furthermore, "I'm sure if he could go back, he wouldn't do it again. He made a terrible mistake but he's paid for it." In 2008, Geimer stated in an interview that she wishes Polanski would be forgiven, "I think he's sorry, I think he knows it was wrong. I don't think he's a danger to society. I don't think he needs to be locked up forever and no one has ever come out ever — besides me — and accused him of anything. It was 30 years ago now. It's an unpleasant memory ... (but) I can live with it."

Why? You do know it's just make believe, right?

Yeah, I knew it was just a scene, but it was a visceral reaction to some that seemed very real. While the scene in Hounddog was uncomfortable, it didn't seem even a fraction as real as the scene in Irreversible. The scene in Hounddog felt like a movie scene.

[Iowanian]

wow.

You're one twisted sonabitch.

[gta0012]

If any 12yr girl is going to win an academy award for being raped it be Dakota Fanning.

That bitch is one of the best actresses ive ever seen and she is mad young.

[4th and Long]

1917. The red-light district of New Orleans. The story of the women. The photographer. And the prostitute's daughter.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

wow.

You're one twisted sonabitch.

You're missing the point of what I intended by my statement about punishment. It's not about minimizing the fact that it's against a child. It's about that I don't think we are affected as as we should be simply because the victim is an adult.

It's the opposite of what you think.