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Hammock Parties · 07-21-2006, 08:32 PM

This is disturbing. I hope people boycott this movie because there's no need for crap like this.

Dakota, 12, to star in 'disturbing paedophile film'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1773

Child actress Dakota Fanning will appear in a controversial new movie featuring paedophile scenes.

War of the Worlds star Dakota, 12, has signed up to appear in Hounddog.

The screenplay calls for Fanning's character to be raped in one explicit scene and to appear naked or clad only in "underpants" in several other horrifying moments.

A source close to the film said: "The two taboos in Hollywood are child abuse and the killing of animals.

"In this movie, both things happen." Fanning's mother, Joy, and her Hollywood agent, Cindy Osbrink, see the movie, written and directed by Deborah Kampmeier, as a possible Oscar vehicle for the pint-size star.

But despite Fanning's status as a bankable actress - whose movies, including last year's War of the Worlds have earned more than half a billion dollars since 2001 - the alarming material seems to have scared off potential investors, according to the New York Daily News.

The film charts the life of a girl who is abused and finds solace in the music of Elvis Presley.

Fanning's carefully choreographed rape scene has already been filmed. But then the production - which also stars Robin Wright Penn, David Morse and Piper Laurie - was stopped because of a lack of money.

But emergency investors were found and the movie is set to be finished by the end of the week.

"It's not just the rape scene - the whole story is challenging Dakota as an actress," Fanning's agent, Osbrink, said.

"And I've never been so proud of her in my life. In every scene she gets better and better."

Miles · 07-22-2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsguru

Thats Hollywood for ya. Can't believe any parent would allow their child to be in this. Anything for money and fame right?

On its face I would agree. Though I won't pass judgement till I have seen it or at least know more. For all you know the scene could be exactly what it sounds like which is showing the seriousness of a beyond inexplicably horrbile crime.

**Donger** · 07-22-2006, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles

On its face I would agree. Though I won't pass judgement till I have seen it or at least know more. For all you know the scene could be exactly what it sounds like which is showing the seriousness of a beyond explicably horrbile crime.

No offense, but rape is bad enough. Throw in pre-teen, and well....

Mecca · 07-22-2006, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

Nobodiy is talking about the right to make a movie, just whether the content is appropiate or not.

There are alot of things that people deem inapproriate that go on every single day that aren't crimes. I personally don't have a problem with the movie or it's content because I can seperate that it is a movie. I think the movie should be made, but if it personally bothers or offends you that's fine don't see it. Me personally seeing as it is a movie it doesn't bug me.

mcan · 07-22-2006, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

To me if it shows a kid and adult engaging in sex-or in this case sexual abuse and rape-it crosses the line into kiddie porn. Call me a prude-but I can do without disgusting shit like this.

Here is the problem with this argument (in my opinion)

If Kid + Adult = Depicted Sex act -----> Kiddie porn

By the same logic.

If Adult + Adult = Depicted Sex Act ------> Regular porn

I just disagree with your definition of porn. I believe that porn is meant to EXCITE the viewer sexually. If the child and adult are depicting a sex act, and the viewer is not meant to be sexually excited by the film, then I think it's not pornography and should be legally fine. Again, I think that both the child and the guardian have to be OK with it. I also believe that there are certain lines of taste and decency that all films should consider when making anything that is risque or taboo. But that doesn't mean that these stories should just not be told.

Halfcan · 07-22-2006, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He's not breaking any laws...........so the jail comment is laughable.

How the hell do you know-have you seen the movie??

Tommy Chong went to jail because his company "talked" about shipping a bong across state lines. If someone in the DA wants to make a name for themselves-they will come up with all kinds of laws to make their case.

IF the movie shows sex between a kid and an adult-even simulated-it should be dealt with severe punishment.

**007** · 07-22-2006, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles

On its face I would agree. Though I won't pass judgement till I have seen it or at least know more. For all you know the scene could be exactly what it sounds like which is showing the seriousness of a beyond inexplicably horrbile crime.

There have been enough movies about rape. I don't think we need one about a 12 year old girl to top them off.

Mecca · 07-22-2006, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

How the hell do you know-have you seen the movie??

Tommy Chong went to jail because his company "talked" about shipping a bong across state lines. If someone in the DA wants to make a name for themselves-they will come up with all kinds of laws to make their case.

IF the movie shows sex between a kid and an adult-even simulated-it should be dealt with severe punishment.

You do understand sex in non porn films isn't sex right? You do realize they don't really have sex right.......because some of this stuff you say makes it sound like you don't comprehend that.

**Donger** · 07-22-2006, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mcan

Again, I think that both the child and the guardian have to be OK with it.

What makes you think that the child has the maturity to be 'OK with it?'

They are kids, for God's sake.

Halfcan · 07-22-2006, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

What makes you think that the child has the maturity to be 'OK with it?'

They are kids, for God's sake.

Exactly!

stevieray · 07-22-2006, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

There are alot of things that people deem inapproriate that go on every single day that aren't crimes. I personally don't have a problem with the movie or it's content because I can seperate that it is a movie. I think the movie should be made, but if it personally bothers or offends you that's fine don't see it. Me personally seeing as it is a movie it doesn't bug me.

Most everyone can seperate that it is a movie.

We aren't talking about that either.

stevieray · 07-22-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

What makes you think that the child has the maturity to be 'OK with it?'

They are kids, for God's sake.

If children knew everything adults knew, there would be no kids.

Miles · 07-22-2006, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

No offense, but rape is bad enough. Throw in pre-teen, and well....

Damn you replied before i could correct my word usage error.

Think I may be agreeing with you again. Basically what I am trying to say is that the particular scene described may not be what it seems. Again obviously havent seen it but from what it sounds its just a depection of a horrfic crime. Just saying that it may just be a vehicle to show this type of crime but alse agreee with you that it sounds like it could be just as effectivly done without.

Miles · 07-22-2006, 01:29 AM

On a less serious note this may be the most fucked up topic for a late night thread around here I have easily seen.

mcan · 07-22-2006, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

What makes you think that the child has the maturity to be 'OK with it?'

They are kids, for God's sake.

That isn't my call to make. I'm sure that 90% of the 12 year old actresses out there AREN'T mature enough to make that decision. That's why we have to let the guardian have a say in the matter, and if he or she is any kind of responsible director, he or she will pick a 12 year old girl whom he or she deems mature and able to handle a role that requires such a scene that is potentially damaging to a young girl's psychi.

But a rape scene is potentially harmfull to adults too... These are considerations that must be made NO MATTER the actresses age. The pool of mature, and professional actresses at age 12 is just smaller. But the morality of the issue is the same to me.

**Donger** · 07-22-2006, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mcan

But the morality of the issue is the same to me.

And what 'morality of the issue' is that, exactly?

07-21-2006, 08:32 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1020478	Dakota Fanning to be raped onscreen This is disturbing. I hope people boycott this movie because there's no need for crap like this. Dakota, 12, to star in 'disturbing paedophile film' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1773 Child actress Dakota Fanning will appear in a controversial new movie featuring paedophile scenes. War of the Worlds star Dakota, 12, has signed up to appear in Hounddog. The screenplay calls for Fanning's character to be raped in one explicit scene and to appear naked or clad only in "underpants" in several other horrifying moments. A source close to the film said: "The two taboos in Hollywood are child abuse and the killing of animals. "In this movie, both things happen." Fanning's mother, Joy, and her Hollywood agent, Cindy Osbrink, see the movie, written and directed by Deborah Kampmeier, as a possible Oscar vehicle for the pint-size star. But despite Fanning's status as a bankable actress - whose movies, including last year's War of the Worlds have earned more than half a billion dollars since 2001 - the alarming material seems to have scared off potential investors, according to the New York Daily News. The film charts the life of a girl who is abused and finds solace in the music of Elvis Presley. Fanning's carefully choreographed rape scene has already been filmed. But then the production - which also stars Robin Wright Penn, David Morse and Piper Laurie - was stopped because of a lack of money. But emergency investors were found and the movie is set to be finished by the end of the week. "It's not just the rape scene - the whole story is challenging Dakota as an actress," Fanning's agent, Osbrink, said. "And I've never been so proud of her in my life. In every scene she gets better and better."
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