Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 186

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

duncan_idaho · 04-11-2013, 12:12 PM

Regarding Starling:

Painful to look at the guys taken in the next ten picks after him:
Archie Bradley (tearing it up, though Bundy got all the attention from that draft)
Francisco Lindor (Mondesi, just 2 years olders)
Javier Baez (exploded last summer. SS with big-time bat)
Jose Fernandez (Cuban emigre is already in the majors)

The Royals were linked pretty heavily to Bradley before the draft.

siberian khatru · 04-11-2013, 12:13 PM

It's only 7 games/28 PAs so far this year, but Starling is 2-for-26 with 0 XBHs, 2 BBs and 11 Ks.

I saw a tweet the other day that said the scouting reports on Starling are like "the soundtrack to a snuff film."

He was fine in Rookie ball last year, though. So cross your fingers.

siberian khatru · 04-11-2013, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Regarding Starling:

Painful to look at the guys taken in the next ten picks after him:
Archie Bradley (tearing it up, though Bundy got all the attention from that draft)
Francisco Lindor (Mondesi, just 2 years olders)
Javier Baez (exploded last summer. SS with big-time bat)
Jose Fernandez (Cuban emigre is already in the majors)

The Royals were linked pretty heavily to Bradley before the draft.

Everybody knew Bubba was a boom or bust kinda guy. I was fine with taking him. We'll see.

mr. tegu · 04-11-2013, 12:15 PM

I love the stadiums right where they are and I apologize for being from Kansas...I guess...

...well no.

**gblowfish** · 04-11-2013, 12:16 PM

Bubba Starling won't start hitting until we move the stadium downtown.

He's from Johnson County, y'know....

siberian khatru · 04-11-2013, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Bubba Startling won't start hitting until we move the stadium downtown.

He's from Johnson County, y'know....

Deberg_1990 · 04-11-2013, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Regarding Starling:

Painful to look at the guys taken in the next ten picks after him:
Archie Bradley (tearing it up, though Bundy got all the attention from that draft)
Francisco Lindor (Mondesi, just 2 years olders)
Javier Baez (exploded last summer. SS with big-time bat)
Jose Fernandez (Cuban emigre is already in the majors)

The Royals were linked pretty heavily to Bradley before the draft.

Is this gonna be like when we passed on Linecum and Kershaw for Hochevar?

RedDread · 04-11-2013, 12:19 PM

Jackson County footed the bill, they get first dibs on tickets and the stadium should stay right where it is. When Clay/Platte/Wyandotte/Johnson all pitch in, we'll put it smack dab in the middle.

WoodDraw · 04-11-2013, 12:19 PM

Who was the Bubba like guy we took in the official WORST DRAFT EVER? I can't remember the first name? Something Crosby...

Anyway, it was a stupid pick from day one. For every Beltran, you get a bunch of shitty players that do nothing.

siberian khatru · 04-11-2013, 12:20 PM

Speaking as someone who never lived in KC and has always gone to the K driving either from rural north MO or CoMO, I love the location because it was easy to access off the interstates, and I never really cared about bars/restaurants before or after the game. I had a 2-hour drive and just wanted to get home.

I'm not able to see more than one game a year now, so I don't count, but I'd like to know the stats on how many folks from outside KC attend how many games a year.

Codered · 04-11-2013, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedDread

Jackson County footed the bill, they get first dibs on tickets and the stadium should stay right where it is. When Clay/Platte/Wyandotte/Johnson all pitch in, we'll put it smack dab in the middle.

Pretty much this.

siberian khatru · 04-11-2013, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodDraw

Who was the Bubba like guy we took in the official WORST DRAFT EVER? I can't remember the first name? Something Crosby...

Anyway, it was a stupid pick from day one. For every Beltran, you get a bunch of shitty players that do nothing.

ROSCOE!

**Bowser** · 04-11-2013, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I guess KC could do a light rail sytem like St Louie does if they build a downtown ballpark.

Flame away!!!

No falming here. Kansas City with its sprawl is built for a light rail system. Unfortunately, the powers that be that actually "run" the city don't know their asses from holes in the ground, and have shown they have no idea on how to get it donw, even though the ****ing populace voted to green light the project.

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya

The problem with where the stadiums are now, is that there is no AFTER party potential... for some reason the prime area that they COULD have built out is a MODOT equipment parking lot and garage.

Poor vision by whoever planned the area AROUND Truman.

I still don't understand why they don't build the area up around the stadiums. There are plenty of woodland areas that can be made into destination places. Bad zoning, I'm guessing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Bubba Startling won't start hitting until we move the stadium downtown.

He's from Johnson County, y'know....

**Saul Good** · 04-11-2013, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by La literatura

It's the only reason I go. Beautiful lot.

New Slogan=> Royals baseball: Peep our sweet parking lot.

WoodDraw · 04-11-2013, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

ROSCOE!

REP, and god I love you google:

Quote:

Roscoe Crosby was a two-sport star for Union High School, but injuries and tragedies robbed him of his athletic potential.

Through life's storms, Crosby has realized he has more to offer the world than hitting a ball or catching a pass, and he's looking to help troubled teens find their way.

Crosby is a behavioral modification specialist at AMIkids White Pines, a wilderness camp in Jonesville that partners with the Department of Juvenile Justice to transition troubled youth back home. Crosby is a counselor.

http://www.goupstate.com/article/201...CLES/111109933

Kudos to him, I guess. Can't blame the kid for front office incompetence.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1899692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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04-11-2013, 12:12 PM	#2776
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1899692	Regarding Starling: Painful to look at the guys taken in the next ten picks after him: Archie Bradley (tearing it up, though Bundy got all the attention from that draft) Francisco Lindor (Mondesi, just 2 years olders) Javier Baez (exploded last summer. SS with big-time bat) Jose Fernandez (Cuban emigre is already in the majors) The Royals were linked pretty heavily to Bradley before the draft. __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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04-11-2013, 12:13 PM	#2777
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $-1135050	It's only 7 games/28 PAs so far this year, but Starling is 2-for-26 with 0 XBHs, 2 BBs and 11 Ks. I saw a tweet the other day that said the scouting reports on Starling are like "the soundtrack to a snuff film." He was fine in Rookie ball last year, though. So cross your fingers.
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mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $-1668700	I love the stadiums right where they are and I apologize for being from Kansas...I guess......well no.
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gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $16896178 VARSITY	Bubba Starling won't start hitting until we move the stadium downtown. He's from Johnson County, y'know.... Last edited by gblowfish; 04-11-2013 at 12:28 PM..
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04-11-2013, 12:19 PM	#2783
RedDread Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Back in KC Casino cash: $10007771	Jackson County footed the bill, they get first dibs on tickets and the stadium should stay right where it is. When Clay/Platte/Wyandotte/Johnson all pitch in, we'll put it smack dab in the middle. __________________
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04-11-2013, 12:19 PM	#2784
WoodDraw Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005059	Who was the Bubba like guy we took in the official WORST DRAFT EVER? I can't remember the first name? Something Crosby... Anyway, it was a stupid pick from day one. For every Beltran, you get a bunch of shitty players that do nothing.
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04-11-2013, 12:20 PM	#2785
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $-1135050	Speaking as someone who never lived in KC and has always gone to the K driving either from rural north MO or CoMO, I love the location because it was easy to access off the interstates, and I never really cared about bars/restaurants before or after the game. I had a 2-hour drive and just wanted to get home. I'm not able to see more than one game a year now, so I don't count, but I'd like to know the stats on how many folks from outside KC attend how many games a year.
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