Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 224

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

BlackHelicopters · 05-01-2013, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilsner

Frenchy making solid contact on the ball(s).

This explains a lot.

BigCatDaddy · 05-01-2013, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

Betancourt still raking...another HR today...7 on year.

Be nice to have him at 2nd right now.

AndChiefs · 05-01-2013, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilsner

Frenchy making solid contact on the ball(s).

Just checking to see how rusty it is down there.

Pitt Gorilla · 05-01-2013, 02:07 PM

I wonder if Royal Fan still HATES the Shields trade. I'm sure they've warmed up to the Sanchez and Sisk trades.

duncan_idaho · 05-01-2013, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I wonder if Royal Fan still HATES the Shields trade. I'm sure they've warmed up to the Sanchez and Sisk trades.

The Shields trade can succeed on a few levels/or in a few ways:

-- The Royals make the playoffs in 2013 or 2014

OR

-- James Shields pitches great for two years before leaving as a free agent (and resulting in a high comp pick) and Wade Davis is more successful as a SP than Jake Odorizzi over the next 5 years

It's a failure if Odorizzi is better than Davis and the Royals don't make the playoffs.

It's also a failure if Wil Myers is Ryan Braun, part 2.

Kidd Lex · 05-01-2013, 02:21 PM

Tigers lost to Twinks 6-2 today.

Royals back in first.

**Old Dog** · 05-01-2013, 02:24 PM

Looking forward into May, what are your thoughts on the schedule?
I'm simply hoping for a winning record in May

2 vs Tampa Bay (1-1)
3 vs White Sux (2-1)
3 @ Baltimore
3 vs NY Yankees
3 @ LA Angels
3 @ Oakland (want to go .500 over these 12 with 9 of them on the road)
3 @ Houston (3-0)
4 vs LA Angels (2-2)
2 vs StL
2 @ StL (2-2)
1 @ Tex (0-1)

That's 16 wins, but would quite happy to go 15-14 in May

ChiefsCountry · 05-01-2013, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog

Looking forward into May, what are your thoughts on the schedule?
I'm simply hoping for a winning record in May

2 vs Tampa Bay (1-1)
3 vs White Sux (2-1)
3 @ Baltimore
3 vs NY Yankees
3 @ LA Angels
3 @ Oakland (want to go .500 over these 12 with 9 of them on the road)
3 @ Houston (3-0)
4 vs LA Angels (2-2)
2 vs StL
2 @ StL (2-2)
1 @ Tex (0-1)

That's 16 wins, but would quite happy to go 15-14 in May

Damn we have a heavy first two months.

BigCatDaddy · 05-01-2013, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog

Looking forward into May, what are your thoughts on the schedule?
I'm simply hoping for a winning record in May

2 vs Tampa Bay (1-1)
3 vs White Sux (2-1)
3 @ Baltimore
3 vs NY Yankees
3 @ LA Angels
3 @ Oakland (want to go .500 over these 12 with 9 of them on the road)
3 @ Houston (3-0)
4 vs LA Angels (2-2)
2 vs StL
2 @ StL (2-2)
1 @ Tex (0-1)

That's 16 wins, but would quite happy to go 15-14 in May

We'll sweep Baltimore.

ChiefsCountry · 05-01-2013, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

We'll sweep Baltimore.

How Royals work, they will get swept by Baltimore but sweep New York and the Angels.

BigCatDaddy · 05-01-2013, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

How Royals work, they will get swept by Baltimore but sweep New York and the Angels.

Nah. We'll kick the O's ass. Put it on the board.

ChiefsCountry · 05-01-2013, 02:54 PM

Keep up the pace in May with the schedule and June looks nice with 10 games against the Twins and Astros.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 05-01-2013, 02:54 PM

that's what this thread has been missing.... a certain orioles troll poluting it with filth for the past month..

Damn, it's been nice.

Nightfyre · 05-01-2013, 05:27 PM

So TINSSTAPP and all... but:
Yordano Ventura, RHP, Royals (Double-A Northwest Arkansas): 5.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 3 BB, 10 K

I am afraid John Lamb is done though. His fastball was only reaching 84-86 yesterday according to Baseball Prospectus.

Cephalic Trauma · 05-01-2013, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

We'll sweep Baltimore.

@BigCatDaddy OMFG SHUT UR MOUF DOOD

#ChiefsandO's4lyfe

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $-1899692	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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Old Dog Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: North Central Kansas Casino cash: $2540201	Looking forward into May, what are your thoughts on the schedule? I'm simply hoping for a winning record in May 2 vs Tampa Bay (1-1) 3 vs White Sux (2-1) 3 @ Baltimore 3 vs NY Yankees 3 @ LA Angels 3 @ Oakland (want to go .500 over these 12 with 9 of them on the road) 3 @ Houston (3-0) 4 vs LA Angels (2-2) 2 vs StL 2 @ StL (2-2) 1 @ Tex (0-1) That's 16 wins, but would quite happy to go 15-14 in May
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05-01-2013, 05:27 PM	#3359
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