Is Damon Huard likely to be the odd man out?

[jAZ]

Sounds like it...

"Both of them (Printers and Croyle) will make this team" (Shea)
"(Printers is) going to be a backup for us..." (Peterson)

http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/news_story/?ID=169275&hubname=cfl

Printers impresses Chiefs; likely to stick
TSN.ca Staff

6/20/2006 7:47:27 PM

It appears that Casey Printers will not be returning to the Candian Football League this season.

Terry Shea, the quarterbacks coach for the Kansas City Chiefs, told CKNW in Vancouver that he expects Printers will stick with the NFL club.

Kansas City is set with Trent Green as the starter and Damon Huard as the primary back-up, and the Chiefs entered their off-season workouts expecting a battle for the third spot between Printers and third round draft pick Brodie Croyle.

Green, who will be 36 this season, has been resting his arm in camp, which has given the Chiefs a lot of good looks at the newcomers. Shea said Printers and Croyle are simply too good to let go.

"Both of them will make this team," Shea told CKNW. "They've done a nice job of picking up the offence."

The only problem for the Chiefs now is figuring out how to carry four quarterbacks. League rules permit clubs to carry three, but another can be signed to the practice squad.

The Chiefs' training camp opens July 28.

Printers signed with the Chiefs in January after a short, but stellar, career with the B.C. Lions. He was the league MVP in 2004 after throwing for 5,000 yards, 35 touchdowns and only 10 interceptions. He also ran for almost 500 yards and nine touchdowns.

Printers, though, did not start the Grey Cup game, which the Lions lost. Injuries hampered him in 2005, and he lost the starting job to veteran Dave Dickenson.

After the 2005 season, Printers started to explore his options and signed with the Chiefs.

"We've had some good fortune with Canadian players," Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson told the Kansas City Star after Printers signed.

"I look at it this way: It's like having an additional draft choice. And this draft choice has pro football experience, albeit the CFL. It’s a bigger, wider field and so on. But I think he's got a chance to come in and help us. He’s going to be a backup for us and learn what we do and what this offense is all about."

After a workout last May, Printers told KCChiefs.com that his CFL experience will help him make the Chiefs.

"Well it definitely prepared me for this because in the CFL you have five receivers going out on every play," Printers said. "Here it’s kind of similar and we were running the same kind of stuff up there. It prepared me a bunch. I was able to play a bunch up there and I'm just prepared for the opportunity when it's given."

After watching him practice this spring, Shea has high hopes for the former B.C. Lions pivot.

"Eventually, Casey has a chance to compete as a starting quarterback in the NFL," Shea said.

[Moooo]

Originally Posted by 58-4ever

I really don't think Herm is going to waste a roster spot on a 4th QB. Just my opinion.

I do. But that's the argument. It's not whether or not they're gonna get rid of Huard. It was stated in the article quite clearly he is the bar-none 2nd QB. the 3rd spot is what's up for grabs, and all the article is saying is that both are too good to let go.

I personally don't think you'll see a problem with one of them being a backup kicker. I know those spots are hard to come by, but I really think if what they're saying is true, and these guys are that good, they will make the space for him, and make him a backup punter or something.

Moooo

[rad]

Originally Posted by Laz

and the right one

Don't get htismaqe going on that argument again......

[Thig Lyfe]

Originally Posted by coryt

Just cut Huard, nobody will pick him up. Tell him on the way out to stay in shape, we will call you back in we get in an injury jam.

I'd say that's the best solution. Although if Green has to sit for an extended period of time, we might as well use it as a chance to develop the young players.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Laz

a final answer before even playing a preseason game??

give the guy a chance, Mr. Fax, give the guy a chance.

Ding a Dang. I thought we had to decide this today, Mr. Laz.

Besides, ultimately we have to go with NFL experience if we're talking about a short-term backup while Trent hot tubs his troubles away. And, I would prefer Croyle to Printers in the QBOTF role only because I have watched him quite a bit living here in SEC country.

I like your idea of letting them sort this out during camp, though. That's probably the best thing to do.

FAX

[Moooo]

Originally Posted by ArrowheadWolf

I'd say that's the best solution. Although if Green has to sit for an extended period of time, we might as well use it as a chance to develop the young players.

Cutting Huard isn't even an option though. That's not in their plans at all, and he is THE 2QB this year...

Moooo

[RockChalk]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Quite frankly, I think you're full of shit. You're saying you watched Patriots or Dolphins preseason games? How? You live in Kansas.

Actually the girl I dated in HS and her family were the biggest Dolphins nuts in Kansas and they had preseason games taped by her Uncle in Miami. So yes, I did watch some Dolphins preseason games. Now for the Patriots preseason games, I don't recall ever watching one. Thanks though for trying to bust my balls again, and failing.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Moooo

Cutting Huard isn't even an option though. That's not in their plans at all, and he is THE 2QB this year...

Moooo

[Moooo]

Originally Posted by Laz

I don't know what this means, but nonetheless, if you read the article there is no way in hell we cut Huard. It's not going to happen. The question is how we can keep Printers and Croyle protected without breaking the rule of only keeping 3 qbs. We could put one or the other on the practice squad, but they could easliy be signed by someone else. We can't keep 4 QBs, so if they are as good as the article says they are the only feasable alternative is to keep one as a backup kicker or something.

Moooo

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DubbleDownBKU

I do happen to get GoChiefs' point. He thinks that those are good stats for a backup guy coming off the bench. I don't agree and believe it as a fluke, thus, they DON'T IMPRESS me.

And I'm not worried about you thinking I'm a dumbass, trust me. Knowing that you're a mod or admin, I'm sure you get off on screwing around with NOOBs all the time. I'd even venture a guess that you talk about ChiefsPlanet to others at your work or in your family that could care less what posters have to say about various subjects, yet humor you, because they are your friends.

That's the one benefit of being here as long as I have. You're quite predictable.

You've moved from the "I'm being oppressed by someone with 50k posts" complaint to the "I'm being oppressed by a mod" complaint.

I don't ever **** with n00bs, in fact I quite often help them. Sometimes I help them even when I know that it's going to be unpopular or cause me alot of personal anguish (ie. Tom Cash). Of course, you haven't been here long enough to know that. What we have to base our opinions on is what we've read since we've been here.

And thanks for venturing that guess. I don't talk to people at work or at home about CP, unless it's my boss wanting to know what I'm doing all day instead of working. It's a completely separate endeavor from real life. But nice try, it's mildly amusing.

[RockChalk]

Come to think of it, my ex is in town. Maybe I should call to ask her and her family what they thought of the heroic and breathtaking 6 game ride that Huard took all those Dolphins fans on in 1999. Maybe I don't think he is any good because his back is still hurt from carrying the team that year.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Moooo

I don't know what this means, but nonetheless, if you read the article there is no way in hell we cut Huard. It's not going to happen. The question is how we can keep Printers and Croyle protected without breaking the rule of only keeping 3 qbs. We could put one or the other on the practice squad, but they could easliy be signed by someone else. We can't keep 4 QBs, so if they are as good as the article says they are the only feasable alternative is to keep one as a backup kicker or something.

Moooo

it basically means "we'll remember you said this........"


btw - it's the article that says "huard IS the #2 QB"


i don't think the writer knows this ...... hopefully the chiefs don't even know it yet.

i would hope the everyone (especially the chiefs) would wait until the players show what they can do in training camp and preseason before making their roster cuts.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by rad

That's not even a valid argument. You're smarter than that.

You can't use NFL stats to compare against 2 guys that don't have any.

You think Huard will save the season if Trent goes down? Or you would just "feel" better with a vet in there?

Between those 3 guys, if Trent goes down were ****ed. I think letting 2 young guys battle it out
is better than taking a chance on letting a potential star go.

I answered all of those questions in detail earlier in the thread:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Well, to be honest, I don't see why any team would keep two QBoTF. If Green sprains an ankle and is going to miss the last 2 quarters, but will be back the following week, play Huard. If Green is down for 3 or 4 games, start Huard for the first couple of games and see how it goes, replace him with Croyle if he struggles. If Green goes down for the season, play Croyle. I see no reason to keep Printers on this team.

That being said, I care about Green and Croyle. I could really care less what they do with the other two.

[jspchief]

What has Huard done in the last five years to make anyone believe he's worth a shit?

He rotted away in obscurity for two years behind Todd freaking Collins for god's sake. He's not a second string QB. He's a third string QB that moved up the depth chart by default.

The only advantage he'll have is knowledge of the playbook. He may be better short term, but anything beyond a game or so, and I'll take my chances with one of our two rookies that have more physical talent.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by DubbleDownBKU

Come to think of it, my ex is in town. Maybe I should call to ask her and her family what they thought of the heroic and breathtaking 6 game ride that Huard took all those Dolphins fans on in 1999. Maybe I don't think he is any good because his back is still hurt from carrying the team that year.

huard wasn't the same person ... playing in the same system or playing with the same coaches back then.

all the stats from 1999 show is potiential ... huard CAN survive in the NFL.

which is more that Croyle and Printer have shown ...... but not much more imo.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Laz

i hope the chiefs commit heavily to Croyle


i want them to go into the season with the idea that he is gonna have to play at some point.


imo the attitude of a team about a young player often determines the success that players has.


push,push,push ...... Croyle should be our #2 by the time the season starts.

I am 100% in agreement with you. That's what frustrates me most about this fascination with Printers, I'm afraid it's going to eat up time they could be spending with Croyle.