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Old 06-21-2006, 11:32 AM  
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Is Damon Huard likely to be the odd man out?

Sounds like it...

"Both of them (Printers and Croyle) will make this team" (Shea)
"(Printers is) going to be a backup for us..." (Peterson)


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Printers impresses Chiefs; likely to stick
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6/20/2006 7:47:27 PM

It appears that Casey Printers will not be returning to the Candian Football League this season.

Terry Shea, the quarterbacks coach for the Kansas City Chiefs, told CKNW in Vancouver that he expects Printers will stick with the NFL club.

Kansas City is set with Trent Green as the starter and Damon Huard as the primary back-up, and the Chiefs entered their off-season workouts expecting a battle for the third spot between Printers and third round draft pick Brodie Croyle.

Green, who will be 36 this season, has been resting his arm in camp, which has given the Chiefs a lot of good looks at the newcomers. Shea said Printers and Croyle are simply too good to let go.

"Both of them will make this team," Shea told CKNW. "They've done a nice job of picking up the offence."

The only problem for the Chiefs now is figuring out how to carry four quarterbacks. League rules permit clubs to carry three, but another can be signed to the practice squad.

The Chiefs' training camp opens July 28.

Printers signed with the Chiefs in January after a short, but stellar, career with the B.C. Lions. He was the league MVP in 2004 after throwing for 5,000 yards, 35 touchdowns and only 10 interceptions. He also ran for almost 500 yards and nine touchdowns.

Printers, though, did not start the Grey Cup game, which the Lions lost. Injuries hampered him in 2005, and he lost the starting job to veteran Dave Dickenson.

After the 2005 season, Printers started to explore his options and signed with the Chiefs.

"We've had some good fortune with Canadian players," Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson told the Kansas City Star after Printers signed.

"I look at it this way: It's like having an additional draft choice. And this draft choice has pro football experience, albeit the CFL. It’s a bigger, wider field and so on. But I think he's got a chance to come in and help us. He’s going to be a backup for us and learn what we do and what this offense is all about."

After a workout last May, Printers told KCChiefs.com that his CFL experience will help him make the Chiefs.

"Well it definitely prepared me for this because in the CFL you have five receivers going out on every play," Printers said. "Here it’s kind of similar and we were running the same kind of stuff up there. It prepared me a bunch. I was able to play a bunch up there and I'm just prepared for the opportunity when it's given."

After watching him practice this spring, Shea has high hopes for the former B.C. Lions pivot.

"Eventually, Casey has a chance to compete as a starting quarterback in the NFL," Shea said.
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:46 PM   #166
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That's the one benefit of being here as long as I have. You're quite predictable.

You've moved from the "I'm being oppressed by someone with 50k posts" complaint to the "I'm being oppressed by a mod" complaint.

I don't ever **** with n00bs, in fact I quite often help them. Sometimes I help them even when I know that it's going to be unpopular or cause me alot of personal anguish (ie. - ahem, shut your mouth -). Of course, you haven't been here long enough to know that. What we have to base our opinions on is what we've read since we've been here.

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Old 06-21-2006, 01:47 PM   #167
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What has Huard done in the last five years to make anyone believe he's worth a shit?

He rotted away in obscurity for two years behind Todd freaking Collins for god's sake. He's not a second string QB. He's a third string QB that moved up the depth chart by default.

The only advantage he'll have is knowledge of the playbook. He may be better short term, but anything beyond a game or so, and I'll take my chances with one of our two rookies that have more physical talent.
See, that's not the right question.

The correct question is:

What have either Printers or Croyle done to make anyone believe they'd be able to step in if Green went down.

Answer: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

That being said, your last paragraph is PRECISELY what I said 75 posts ago.
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:48 PM   #168
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huard wasn't the same person ... playing in the same system or playing with the same coaches back then.

all the stats from 1999 show is potiential ... huard CAN survive in the NFL.

which is more that Croyle and Printer have shown ...... but not much more imo.
Agreed, I just don't happen to believe he is a better option than croyle or printers.
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:49 PM   #169
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And what have you read from me since I've been here? Give me your expert critique oh holy one.
I posted the link earlier in the thread.
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:49 PM   #170
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Agreed, I just don't happen to believe he is a better option than croyle or printers.
He has to be for this year, at least.

Name a rookie who has come into the NFL and done well? Even #1 picks play like backups their first year. This year, the way to go is Huard.

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Old 06-21-2006, 01:53 PM   #171
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He has to be for this year, at least.

Name a rookie who has come into the NFL and done well? Even #1 picks play like backups their first year. This year, the way to go is Huard.

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I don't know, I thought Ben Roethlisberger's 15-1 rookie year was pretty solid.

I could go on, but the point is, a lot of rookies have come in and done better trhan Damon Huard has done in all his years combined.
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What has Huard done in the last five years to make anyone believe he's worth a shit?

He rotted away in obscurity for two years behind Todd freaking Collins for god's sake. He's not a second string QB. He's a third string QB that moved up the depth chart by default.

The only advantage he'll have is knowledge of the playbook. He may be better short term, but anything beyond a game or so, and I'll take my chances with one of our two rookies that have more physical talent.
If I could say it any better I would.
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See, that's not the right question.

The correct question is:

What have either Printers or Croyle done to make anyone believe they'd be able to step in if Green went down.

Answer: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

That being said, your last paragraph is PRECISELY what I said 75 posts ago.
Well, my answer to your question would be that I've seen all three of these guys throw passes in the last year, and Huard looked the least capable of the three.

Do I know that Printers or Croyle are better than Huard? No. But I'm pretty confident in my opinion that Huard will be completely worthless.
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I posted the link earlier in the thread.
Are you referring to the Top 25 comments between me and Wichita St fan? I went to the link, but didn't see anything in regards to me on that particular page..
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Well, my answer to your question would be that I've seen all three of these guys throw passes in the last year, and Huard looked the least capable of the three.

Do I know that Printers or Croyle are better than Huard? No. But I'm pretty confident in my opinion that Huard will be completely worthless.
No outside opinions please...
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I don't know, I thought Ben Roethlisberger's 15-1 rookie year was pretty solid.

I could go on, but the point is, a lot of rookies have come in and done better trhan Damon Huard has done in all his years combined.
Big Ben's offense required him to throw less than 20 passes in a game...

Also, please do go on. Cause for every Big Ben, there's about 5 others who suck it up. Even Peyton Manning sucked his first year. My point is that everyone is making the backup seem like it's no big deal, but it is. I don't want some rookie being our backup, especially with the KC playbook the way it is. I don't like the idea that a 36 year old QB is the only thing between us and someone who hasn't ever taken a regular season snap.

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See, that's not the right question.

The correct question is:

What have either Printers or Croyle done to make anyone believe they'd be able to step in if Green went down.

Answer: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

That being said, your last paragraph is PRECISELY what I said 75 posts ago.
Now I'm confused. What question?

Just answer this: Do you WANT Huard to backup Green?
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Prediction: Casey Printers will never start an NFL game

Request: Huard is our backup in the event that Trent goes down. Following his first incomplete pass, Croyle plays until Trent returns.
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Big Ben's offense required him to throw less than 20 passes in a game...

Also, please do go on. Cause for every Big Ben, there's about 5 others who suck it up. Even Peyton Manning sucked his first year. My point is that everyone is making the backup seem like it's no big deal, but it is. I don't want some rookie being our backup, especially with the KC playbook the way it is. I don't like the idea that a 36 year old QB is the only thing between us and someone who hasn't ever taken a regular season snap.

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Don't forget Moooo, our situation here, with our O-line our running game, is very good for a rookie to come in and cut his teeth on.....
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