do we still want Green over Huard? - Page 17

Hootie · 11-05-2006, 03:17 PM

I mean...this Huard guy is playing sensational football.

Great win today boys!

Sure-Oz · 11-06-2006, 12:25 AM

I think deep inside he hopes trent sucks big balls and he'll love it.

Immaculate · 11-06-2006, 12:26 AM

Hootie · 11-06-2006, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I think deep inside he hopes trent sucks big balls and he'll love it.

Unbelievably untrue.

If Trent returns as starter I hope he does WAY better than Huard and posts a perfect 158.3 QB rating and we win the super bowl...

If you all want to tell me "I told you so" after that, sweet...(but you really didn't tell me anything, because I think we can still be really good with Green as our starter as long as he understands why Huard has been so successful and plays within the offense)...

Either way, Huard or Green, we better make the playoffs/win the west.

**luv** · 11-06-2006, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Unbelievably untrue.

If Trent returns as starter I hope he does WAY better than Huard and posts a perfect 158.3 QB rating and we win the super bowl...

If you all want to tell me "I told you so" after that, sweet...(but you really didn't tell me anything, because I think we can still be really good with Green as our starter as long as he understands why Huard has been so successful and plays within the offense)...

Either way, Huard or Green, we better make the playoffs/win the west.

Rep.

Sure-Oz · 11-06-2006, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Unbelievably untrue.

If Trent returns as starter I hope he does WAY better than Huard and posts a perfect 158.3 QB rating and we win the super bowl...

If you all want to tell me "I told you so" after that, sweet...(but you really didn't tell me anything, because I think we can still be really good with Green as our starter as long as he understands why Huard has been so successful and plays within the offense)...

Either way, Huard or Green, we better make the playoffs/win the west.

Trent Green is pretty damn intelligent i don't see any drop off with him in there. The only way it can be is cause of rust or injury related. If he is the same guy he was before the injury, which i think he will be, then we will be just fine and dandy. We have a very capable backup definetly now. I am sure Trent is ready to go back in seeing how well Damon is doing and I think he will be ready to perform.

DRU · 11-06-2006, 12:33 AM

I was a little confused by your statements about 2004, so I looked up his stats. 2004 was his best year as a Chief. All categories are higher in 2004 than any other year. Now, he did have 17 INT's that year, but I don't think that's very many considering he put the ball in the air 556 times. I remember being a little upset with him after the Houston game at home in 2004, but otherwise I can't really think of any time that I thought he just really made a bad decision. Bad tips, receivers letting balls go right through their hands...I've got video if we need to look back.

Anyway, see for yourself. Calling 2004 a year that makes you not like Trent makes no sense what-so-ever.

Hammock Parties · 11-06-2006, 12:35 AM

He's talking about the end of games in 2004. Trent choked against Carolina, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, New England and San Diego.

Hootie · 11-06-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Trent Green is pretty damn intelligent i don't see any drop off with him in there. The only way it can be is cause of rust or injury related. If he is the same guy he was before the injury, which i think he will be, then we will be just fine and dandy. We have a very capable backup definetly now. I am sure Trent is ready to go back in seeing how well Damon is doing and I think he will be ready to perform.

you don't see any drop off, unless their is rust or something injury related...

so, there is a chance for drop off.

Is there a chance he'll out-perform Huard?

What is more likely to happen? Green outperforms Huard, or Green is rusty and the Chiefs stumble with Green at the helm? Or neither, the Chiefs continue to roll and the QB continues to play well and hand the ball off to LJ a lot...

I say option 3 is the most likely, but I think option 2 is more likely than option 1...which is why I say let's not even **** with it and ride Huard until he proves incapable.

Sure-Oz · 11-06-2006, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

you don't see any drop off, unless their is rust or something injury related...

so, there is a chance for drop off.

Is there a chance he'll out-perform Huard?

What is more likely to happen? Green outperforms Huard, or Green is rusty and the Chiefs stumble with Green at the helm? Or neither, the Chiefs continue to roll and the QB continues to play well and hand the ball off to LJ a lot...

I say option 3 is the most likely, but I think option 2 is more likely than option 1...which is why I say let's not even **** with it and ride Huard until he proves incapable.

There is a chance, hell there is always a chance....but i don't see him having too much trouble. But what do you do, Huard has a game like he had in Pitt then you throw him out for Trent?? I think Trent will do well and we will keep rolling, obviously he needs to play and get things going. I am just ready to see him on the field, and won't have worries knowing we got Huard on the bench to back him up.

**luv** · 11-06-2006, 12:38 AM

Being the sentimental person that I am...

I can see Trent retiring after this year. A big part of me wants him to be able to have the chance to take this team into the playoffs (and preferrably win).

However, being as how I love to play poker, I know it's good to ride a hot streak as long as you can. If Huard can do this for us for the rest of the year, why chance it? I know that Trent has the capability of doing this as well, though.

Being female, I tend to lean towards the sentimental. But if we have a chance at the Super Bowl with what we've got going....

Still on the fence I guess.

Hootie · 11-06-2006, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

He's talking about the end of games in 2004. Trent choked against Carolina, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, New England and San Diego.

exactly.

I think 2004 was the year we should've beat Jacksonville as well...and one game, I FORGET WHICH ONE, it might have even been that same Jacksonville game...we had 2nd and goal from the 1, Green through a fade pick 6 14 point swing...terrible playcall and terrible execution and it cost us the game...I think it was the Carolina game, actually..

Anyways...as I've said several times...our defense was terrible that year, but Green always had that chance to drive down the field for a game winning TD or game tying field goal and he failed several times...getting sacked or 4 and done...and I'm saying a clutch leader doesn't go 7-9 when his team leads every game but 1 in the 4th quarter...

Yeah guys, we were HYPED in 2004, totally hyped as super bowl contenders...and we lead ALMOST EVERY GAME IN THE 4TH QUARTER...and we had 7 wins.

I don't care if our defense can't stop K-State...when the most potent offense in the NFL leads almost every game in quarter #4 and comes out of the season with 7 wins...something is wrong with the guy behind center.

(he rebounded nicely last year IMO...he was clutch in several games...Dallas comes to mind, as well as some others)

Sure-Oz · 11-06-2006, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

He's talking about the end of games in 2004. Trent choked against Carolina, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, New England and San Diego.

I guarantee huard has a bad game or 2 and you few huard backers will throw him under the bus. Where the hell was he in Pittsburgh? Our success def. depends on LJ mostly when huard is in there, atleast trent will give opposing defenses more to worry about.

Hootie · 11-06-2006, 12:40 AM

a game like Huard had in Pittsburgh?

Out of all the poor play we witnessed that weak, I think I'd say Huard's play was the thing that worried me the least.

They lost that game before the friggin' coin toss.

Hootie · 11-06-2006, 12:41 AM

Huard, I think, has started 13 games and has 5 4th quarter comebacks...

That's a pretty nice ratio...I think he's something like 10-3 as a starter, as well.

DRU · 11-06-2006, 12:54 AM

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He's talking about the end of games in 2004. Trent choked against Carolina, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, New England and San Diego.

Carolina had 3 TD passes and ran for 180 yds or some shit with a TD there as well. Not Trent's fault.

Green thew 3 TD's against the Bucs in '04 and we lose 34-31. I hardly call that Green's fault.

Against the Saints he had 2 INT's, but he thew for 311 yards as well. The Chief's also gave up a football field of penalty yards in that game. Tough to win with that. 2 INT's, fine, call it a Green loss, but I think that's kinda weak.

Against the Pats he threw for 381 yards w/ a couple of TD passes. Green drove them the length of the field to score a TD putting us down 24-19 with 6:00 left. D couldn't hold, we lose. Can't really call that a Trent loss either in my book.

Against the Chargers, Chiefs score 31 points. I remember Dante Hall flat dropping the ball on his way into the end-zone on a kick return. Gave that way. Green only threw for 200 yards in this one, but again, 31 points put up by his side of the ball. Hall holds on to the ball on the way in the end-zone and we win this game. D holds the team to under 31 points at home and we win this game. Not Trent's fault.

So...I'm still confused.

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11-06-2006, 12:33 AM	#246
DRU To the Game Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $6793516	I was a little confused by your statements about 2004, so I looked up his stats. 2004 was his best year as a Chief. All categories are higher in 2004 than any other year. Now, he did have 17 INT's that year, but I don't think that's very many considering he put the ball in the air 556 times. I remember being a little upset with him after the Houston game at home in 2004, but otherwise I can't really think of any time that I thought he just really made a bad decision. Bad tips, receivers letting balls go right through their hands...I've got video if we need to look back. Anyway, see for yourself. Calling 2004 a year that makes you not like Trent makes no sense what-so-ever.
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11-06-2006, 12:38 AM	#250
luv You think you can get by this? Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Casino cash: $-1180000	Being the sentimental person that I am... I can see Trent retiring after this year. A big part of me wants him to be able to have the chance to take this team into the playoffs (and preferrably win). However, being as how I love to play poker, I know it's good to ride a hot streak as long as you can. If Huard can do this for us for the rest of the year, why chance it? I know that Trent has the capability of doing this as well, though. Being female, I tend to lean towards the sentimental. But if we have a chance at the Super Bowl with what we've got going.... Still on the fence I guess.
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11-06-2006, 12:40 AM	#253
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	a game like Huard had in Pittsburgh? Out of all the poor play we witnessed that weak, I think I'd say Huard's play was the thing that worried me the least. They lost that game before the friggin' coin toss.
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11-06-2006, 12:41 AM	#254
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Huard, I think, has started 13 games and has 5 4th quarter comebacks... That's a pretty nice ratio...I think he's something like 10-3 as a starter, as well.
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