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Old 06-21-2006, 11:32 AM  
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Is Damon Huard likely to be the odd man out?

Sounds like it...

"Both of them (Printers and Croyle) will make this team" (Shea)
"(Printers is) going to be a backup for us..." (Peterson)


http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/news_story/?ID=169275&hubname=cfl

Printers impresses Chiefs; likely to stick
TSN.ca Staff

6/20/2006 7:47:27 PM

It appears that Casey Printers will not be returning to the Candian Football League this season.

Terry Shea, the quarterbacks coach for the Kansas City Chiefs, told CKNW in Vancouver that he expects Printers will stick with the NFL club.

Kansas City is set with Trent Green as the starter and Damon Huard as the primary back-up, and the Chiefs entered their off-season workouts expecting a battle for the third spot between Printers and third round draft pick Brodie Croyle.

Green, who will be 36 this season, has been resting his arm in camp, which has given the Chiefs a lot of good looks at the newcomers. Shea said Printers and Croyle are simply too good to let go.

"Both of them will make this team," Shea told CKNW. "They've done a nice job of picking up the offence."

The only problem for the Chiefs now is figuring out how to carry four quarterbacks. League rules permit clubs to carry three, but another can be signed to the practice squad.

The Chiefs' training camp opens July 28.

Printers signed with the Chiefs in January after a short, but stellar, career with the B.C. Lions. He was the league MVP in 2004 after throwing for 5,000 yards, 35 touchdowns and only 10 interceptions. He also ran for almost 500 yards and nine touchdowns.

Printers, though, did not start the Grey Cup game, which the Lions lost. Injuries hampered him in 2005, and he lost the starting job to veteran Dave Dickenson.

After the 2005 season, Printers started to explore his options and signed with the Chiefs.

"We've had some good fortune with Canadian players," Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson told the Kansas City Star after Printers signed.

"I look at it this way: It's like having an additional draft choice. And this draft choice has pro football experience, albeit the CFL. It’s a bigger, wider field and so on. But I think he's got a chance to come in and help us. He’s going to be a backup for us and learn what we do and what this offense is all about."

After a workout last May, Printers told KCChiefs.com that his CFL experience will help him make the Chiefs.

"Well it definitely prepared me for this because in the CFL you have five receivers going out on every play," Printers said. "Here it’s kind of similar and we were running the same kind of stuff up there. It prepared me a bunch. I was able to play a bunch up there and I'm just prepared for the opportunity when it's given."

After watching him practice this spring, Shea has high hopes for the former B.C. Lions pivot.

"Eventually, Casey has a chance to compete as a starting quarterback in the NFL," Shea said.
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:09 PM   #46
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So either cut one of the two with the upsides or cut our #2 QB, and double down on the bet that one of them will develop into a star.

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Old 06-21-2006, 12:11 PM   #47
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Where in the hell would anyone get that idea? He lost a starting job in the CFL didn't he?
evidently the chiefs have some idea ........ they signed the guy who lost his starting job in the CFL.


iirc he was also the MVP in the CFL at one point.
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:11 PM   #48
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They can't keep all 4.

They can't put Huard on the PS.

There's no way Croyle would clear waivers to go the PS.

There's only 2 choices:

1) Cut Huard and have zero experience backing up Green.
2) See if Printers can clear waivers and put him on the PS.

I personally like #2. I've seen too many Brian Shay-types come through this organization to get too excited about Printers.
I agree but I heard Herm yesterday say that they are only going to keep 4 WR's and Dante counts as one. Last year we had 5 WR's and 3 QB's so maybe they are going 4 and 4.
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:12 PM   #49
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What will really suck is if Printers outperforms Croyle in the preseason games...but I doubt that happens.
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:13 PM   #50
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I agree but I heard Herm yesterday say that they are only going to keep 4 WR's and Dante counts as one. Last year we had 5 WR's and 3 QB's so maybe they are going 4 and 4.
I really, really hate this idea. I want Webb and Thorpe on the roster.
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:14 PM   #51
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I agree but I heard Herm yesterday say that they are only going to keep 4 WR's and Dante counts as one. Last year we had 5 WR's and 3 QB's so maybe they are going 4 and 4.
You can't carry 4 QBs on your roster.
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:14 PM   #52
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I agree but I heard Herm yesterday say that they are only going to keep 4 WR's and Dante counts as one. Last year we had 5 WR's and 3 QB's so maybe they are going 4 and 4.
except that i think that the NFL has a rule about how many QB's you can have on the roster.

to keep 4 QB's, i think one has to be a practice squad QB ... back to the problem of the practice squad again.
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:15 PM   #53
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NFL contracts are not guaranteed ... and a player has to be cut(contract termination) before being placed on the practice squad.

when a player whom is under contract is cut by an NFL team they have go through the waiver process before a team can sign them again.


practice squad players have a set contract amount IIRC. It was 50k per year .......... now i think it's been raised (75k ??? )
I thought it was more of a minor league thing, where they were still members of the organization.

That's what football needs. Not this NFLE, they need farm teams where they are still under NFL contract. Get rid of NFLE, and maybe have certain teams share farm clubs, but have them able to be under NFL contract without playing in the NFL.

Then again, maybe that's a bad idea.

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You can't carry 4 QBs on your roster.
Those damn NFL rules..
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Old 06-21-2006, 12:16 PM   #55
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evidently the chiefs have some idea ........ they signed the guy who lost his starting job in the CFL.


iirc he was also the MVP in the CFL at one point.
I'm not saying the guy doesn't have talent. It's just that if you listen to people here, you might be inclined to believe he's ****ing Warren Moon, and he hasn't yet played a single down.

Wasn't Doug Flutie the CFL MVP at one point?
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I really, really hate this idea. I want Webb and Thorpe on the roster.
I agree. Dante gets hurt to much to count on him especially as the #3 WR.
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What will really suck is if Printers outperforms Croyle in the preseason games...but I doubt that happens.
Don't be so sold on Croyle yet. I'm a Bama fan and am skeptical about him. This is an entirely different league, and things happen. Printers could very well be a golden egg sitting in our lap, as could Croyle. At this point, with one being great in the CFL, and the other being a stellar NCAA QB, I'd say they're about even as far as how good they are.

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I thought it was more of a minor league thing, where they were still members of the organization.

That's what football needs. Not this NFLE, they need farm teams where they are still under NFL contract. Get rid of NFLE, and maybe have certain teams share farm clubs, but have them able to be under NFL contract without playing in the NFL.

Then again, maybe that's a bad idea.

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i think the NFL is hoping to avoid that because if they actually have an official Farm system then the Players Union is gonna start fighting for more money and more benefits for those players.

big bucks, big problems


similar reasons to not want full-time officials
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Practice squad rules: Teams can have a maximum of eight players on the practice squad. The limit was increased by three in 2004. Players credited with two or more NFL seasons are ineligible. There is no restriction for age or last season in college.
Does Huard actually get credit for his seasons of being worthless. I personally would rather live and die with a rookie/young QB than have that piece of sh*t running the plays, regardless of whether he knows the plays or not. Have you seen Huard throw in the preseason? I'll bet he couldn't hit a wide open King Kong 1 time out of 100 throws.
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