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Old 12-11-2014, 08:45 PM  
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***Official 2015 STL Cardinals Thread***
2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance

  • Made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
  • Only 1 losing season since 2000.
  • Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
  • Made the NLCS 9 times including the last 4 years 2011-2014
  • Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
  • 65 post season wins since 2004. 22+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 06-01-2015, 07:14 PM   #1651
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I feel like (can't back it up with stats, too lazy to look), Holliday and Carpenter k looking alot
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Old 06-01-2015, 08:08 PM   #1652
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Old 06-01-2015, 08:11 PM   #1653
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Mike fiers makes this lineup look like trash for 6 innings
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Old 06-01-2015, 08:16 PM   #1654
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Jaime has been solid tonight. So that's good
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Old 06-01-2015, 08:17 PM   #1655
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And Heyward still sucks ass.
Belt high, inner third.

He simply has no idea what to do with it. Open. Your. ****ing. Stance.

Get your hands back and stand up straight.

Meanwhile dipshit Jon Mabry is probably trying to teach him to shorten up and poke it to center. Afterall, we all know that everyone should be taught the exact same approach, regardless of skill set.

If Heyward doesn't come around by july, you have to fire Mabry. You can't let that kind of talent go without getting a different voice in his ear. You absolutely have to explore all avenues before quitting on a guy with legitimate HoF talent.
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Old 06-01-2015, 08:23 PM   #1656
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Belt high, inner third.

He simply has no idea what to do with it. Open. Your. ****ing. Stance.

Get your hands back and stand up straight.

Meanwhile dipshit Jon Mabry is probably trying to teach him to shorten up and poke it to center. Afterall, we all know that everyone should be taught the exact same approach, regardless of skill set.

If Heyward doesn't come around by july, you have to fire Mabry. You can't let that kind of talent go without getting a different voice in his ear. You absolutely have to explore all avenues before quitting on a guy with legitimate HoF talent.
The last at bat he had tonight, it hit me, finally.

That's what he's being told to do with that pitch. Based on Mabrys history, it has to be.

He should be destroying balls up and in with his quick hands and leverage.

Frankly, I'd like to see him with Mueller only
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I also see now that John jay is back I'm gonna have to watch him **** around in center and in the 8 hole for a while.

Mo is gonna have to trade him too so mike will figure it out I guess
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The last at bat he had tonight, it hit me, finally.

That's what he's being told to do with that pitch. Based on Mabrys history, it has to be.

He should be destroying balls up and in with his quick hands and leverage.

Frankly, I'd like to see him with Mueller only
If Craig ever had a chance to rebound, i knew it was gone the moment he took a fastball at the fists last year, flared it over 2b and Matheny cited it as proof he was coming around.

This team teaches one approach to all hitters and it neuters most of them, especially the stronger ones. It's a shitty approach if you generate power through force rather than quickness. Look at how loopy Peralta's swing is - he's a guy that is pretty openly ignoring what the team espouses and that's why he's doing so well. Wong, OTOH, uses insanely quick wrists and a Beltran-esque bat whip to generate his power so he can let the ball get deeper and still drive the hell out of it.

It's just a bad base philosophy, IMO.
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If Craig ever had a chance to rebound, i knew it was gone the moment he took a fastball at the fists last year, flared it over 2b and Matheny cited it as proof he was coming around.

This team teaches one approach to all hitters and it neuters most of them, especially the stronger ones. It's a shitty approach if you generate power through force rather than quickness. Look at how loopy Peralta's swing is - he's a guy that is pretty openly ignoring what the team espouses and that's why he's doing so well. Wong, OTOH, uses insanely quick wrists and a Beltran-esque bat whip to generate his power so he can let the ball get deeper and still drive the hell out of it.

It's just a bad base philosophy, IMO.
It basically kills a zone for a hitter.

I hate it and hate that Mabry essentially teaches an approach that relies on babip to score runs.
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Speaking of craig, if the Sox would eat some of his deal, I'd flip them a prospect and put him back at first, fire Mabry and let Mueller take over
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There we go.


I hate watching/seeing players age. Holliday use to murder fastballs.
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****, come on carp.
Missed a cripple pitch in the AB before it.

He's just off tonight. It happens but you'd like to see the guys around him do a better job picking him up.
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There we go.


I hate watching/seeing players age. Holliday use to murder fastballs.
I actually don't hate the approach with Holliday. As he aged, he needed to evolve and this has done a lot to keep him consistently dangerous.

But the power was going to go on its own or come at a great cost as he had to start cheating around on balls to adapt to a slider speed bat. That's not the case with guys like Heyward and Craig before him.
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I actually don't hate the approach with Holliday. As he aged, he needed to evolve and this has done a lot to keep him consistently dangerous.

But the power was going to go on its own or come at a great cost as he had to start cheating around on balls to adapt to a slider speed bat. That's not the case with guys like Heyward and Craig before him.

I don't hate his approach, just hate that he isn't what he was. I wish players didn't age.
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