Chiefs Would drafting a QB in the first round renew your excitement for the Chiefs? - Page 7

**BossChief** · 10-26-2015, 04:26 PM

I think it's the ONLY thing that can reel me back in as a fan and get me interested, again.

Discuss

**The Franchise** · 10-27-2015, 01:50 PM

RunKC · 10-27-2015, 01:51 PM

We absolutely need to play Murray in at least 3 games. He was awesome at Georgia and he looked pretty good in preseason.

Andy probably won't do it though

**The Franchise** · 10-27-2015, 01:56 PM

If we lose to the Lions.....then Smith needs to sit for the rest of the year. We aren't winning the last 8 games of the season to make the playoffs.

Too bad this is all just a pipe dream. We'll beat the Lions and give this worthless FO hope that we're on the right track. Then it's on to 4-5 wins and not knowing what we have in Murray or anybody else.

Reerun_KC · 10-27-2015, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

Exactly! Drafting a QB in the 1st round just for the sake of drafting one is reeruned logic. One post suggested it was just to show that the "mindset" has changed. If Murray got a shot and looked promising then drafting another QB in the 1st round versus the best player available hurts this team! I am more interested in taking BPA and improving the team as a whole. QB's don't win games on their own. No matter what QB we draft or have on the roster, if our staff can't develop them then it wouldn't matter. If our staff DOES have the ability to develop a QB then Murray has displayed all of the tools necessary in college to compete at the NFL level. We don't need a 1st round QB, we need the right QB and we need to develop said QB! Murray is a talented and intelligent prospect. There is no reason he can't be developed. I believe we have a failure in the system here and Reid needs to go. Flame away............

Yet we draft 1st round OL for the sake of drafting one is okay though? That is criminally reeruned logic.

That logic really doesn't make sense when you aren't trying to improve the team with the most important position on the field...

Yes Murray needs to play, its without question... Reid needs to go, it without question...

jonzie04 · 10-27-2015, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

We absolutely need to play Murray in at least 3 games. He was awesome at Georgia and he looked pretty good in preseason.

Andy probably won't do it though

True

If Smith starts struggling again, and we become mathematically eliminated for the playoffs then I'd love to see it. But we all know it's going to take a small miracle for Murray to get a chance.

**FRCDFED** · 10-27-2015, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If we lose to the Lions.....then Smith needs to sit for the rest of the year. We aren't winning the last 8 games of the season to make the playoffs.

Too bad this is all just a pipe dream. We'll beat the Lions and give this worthless FO hope that we're on the right track. Then it's on to 4-5 wins and not knowing what we have in Murray or anybody else.

I used to back Smith. I can no longer do that. I won't say that "if we lose to the Lions he need to sit", however, I will say that if we lose to the Lions and he plays like he did at the end of the end of the Vikings game then his tenure here needs to be finished. Losing is a team effort. I would rather he be benched for his individual play. I also do not want to see this team draft a QB in round 1 next season to sit behind Smith. If we draft a QB then Murray needs to be the starter and Smith is on the bench permanently. I would just cut him and take the salary cap hit. We will take the hit either way. So start Murray and see what you have while the rookie sits.

Discuss Thrower · 10-27-2015, 02:07 PM

Dallas fans are the dumbest by total numbers of idiots, but I'm beginning to think KC has the bigger percentage.

"Hey, the same six teams make the playoffs every year and half of those six drafted a QB in the first round. Maybe the Chiefs should do that...?

Nah. That's too risky. Better call up New England and see if Garoppolo can be had for a couple of 2nd rounders."

**FRCDFED** · 10-27-2015, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Yet we draft 1st round OL for the sake of drafting one is okay though? That is criminally reeruned logic.

That logic really doesn't make sense when you aren't trying to improve the team with the most important position on the field...

Yes Murray needs to play, its without question... Reid needs to go, it without question...

Stop ignoring the fact that Fisher was the BPA prospect in that draft.

Reerun_KC · 10-27-2015, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

Stop ignoring the fact that Fisher was the BPA prospect in that draft.

I am going to use full true fan logic when it comes to Fisher. He wasn't or isn't a cant miss prospect, he isn't an Orlando Pace or Willie Roaf. Therefore I'm just not "sold" on him as being 1st round material. We should draft a less risky player or trade down.

And looking back he still isn't the BPA from that draft...

Discuss Thrower · 10-27-2015, 02:23 PM

Bullshit on Fisher being BPA. He was a project that had a supposed higher ceiling due to his athleticism, not because of anything he demonstrated playing in the MAC.

**FRCDFED** · 10-27-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I am going to use full true fan logic when it comes to Fisher. He wasn't or isn't a cant miss prospect, he isn't an Orlando Pace or Willie Roaf. Therefore I'm just not "sold" on him as being 1st round material. We should draft a less risky player or trade down.

And looking back he still isn't the BPA from that draft...

Hindsight is always 20/20. At the time he was the best "Prospect" at a position of need.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-27-2015, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

You two, come on over and hop up on ol' KCTitus' lap here and let me tell you a story about the history of this here place called Chiefsplanet...

Nearly one score ago, when this place was initially founded, we had folks akin to you all...young, fired up, knew better than anyone else including the front office and coaches...yep, we were thick with 'em. Funny thing was anything and everything the team did was wrong. That's right, this franchise couldnt pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel...

It was then I started to notice something...something bout these fellas I started calling 'Genious'. Oh yes, I began to study these fellas because we all want to be right all the time, so I learned their language and the first thing I recognized was that regardless of what happens, what decision is made, what action is taken it is always the wrong decision. Yes, sir...I even developed a bit of a dictionary about it, called it The Lexicon. Be happy to share with you boys, if'n yer interested.

During that time we had a GM named Carl Peterson and he was the focus of everything that was wrong with KC and he was pure evil according to the Genious - you know, he just wanted to be good enough to fill the stands and not actually win...stuff like that. So, I used to poke fun at these fellas by saying that Carl drafted Blackledge. It was kind of my way of poking fun at them...it's the one bait that will pull a Genious out of the woodwork.

So, I'll leave you two with this bit of sage advice from a grizzled old 'Planet vet...

Be careful what you wish for...you might just get it.

I can only hope.

Grandpa.

BigChiefFan · 10-27-2015, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

Exactly! Drafting a QB in the 1st round just for the sake of drafting one is reeruned logic. One post suggested it was just to show that the "mindset" has changed. If Murray got a shot and looked promising then drafting another QB in the 1st round versus the best player available hurts this team! I am more interested in taking BPA and improving the team as a whole. QB's don't win games on their own. No matter what QB we draft or have on the roster, if our staff can't develop them then it wouldn't matter. If our staff DOES have the ability to develop a QB then Murray has displayed all of the tools necessary in college to compete at the NFL level. We don't need a 1st round QB, we need the right QB and we need to develop said QB! Murray is a talented and intelligent prospect. There is no reason he can't be developed. I believe we have a failure in the system here and Reid needs to go. Flame away............

who the **** is drafting a QB for just the sake of drafting one? We haven't even tried in 33 ****ing YEARS!!! It's also a given, that they do their due diligence. Jesus Christ, help us all.

Rasputin · 10-27-2015, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

We absolutely need to play Murray in at least 3 games. He was awesome at Georgia and he looked pretty good in preseason.

Andy probably won't do it though

I wish Murray would get the start way before Chase Daniel but I know he wont. I want Murray to compete for the starting job with a first round draft pick quarterback and let them battle it out that way it's not just given to the rooky and Murray can get some seasoning this year. You absolutely can not get too much experience in the NFL so let him start now would be nice. Even if Murray is back up to our draft pick he can add value to the position.

I do think they need an open competition for the job not just give it to anyone. Do what is opposite of what Chiefs do.

**Bowser** · 10-27-2015, 02:44 PM

Drafting a QB in the first round and giving him a legit chance to be the guy is certainly one of my criteria for ever getting tickets again.

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Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $-150000	Dallas fans are the dumbest by total numbers of idiots, but I'm beginning to think KC has the bigger percentage. "Hey, the same six teams make the playoffs every year and half of those six drafted a QB in the first round. Maybe the Chiefs should do that...? Nah. That's too risky. Better call up New England and see if Garoppolo can be had for a couple of 2nd rounders." __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $-150000	Bullshit on Fisher being BPA. He was a project that had a supposed higher ceiling due to his athleticism, not because of anything he demonstrated playing in the MAC. __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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