Chiefs Crennel: Orton Should be Starting QB in 2012 if He Wins Final 2 Games - Page 10

**doomy3** · 12-20-2011, 11:19 AM

This could very well be a repost, so I apologize in advance if it is. I didn't see it anywhere on the first page unless it's mixed in on another thread. Pretty interesting that Crennel has come out and said this already IMO.

Interim coach Romeo Crennel said Kyle Orton should be the Chiefs' 2012 starter if he wins the final two games.
There's a ton of uncertainty in Kansas City, so Crennel is getting way ahead of himself here. He's no lock to get the head coaching job, Orton is an impending free agent, and Matt Cassel is under contract through 2014. Still, Orton may truly be a better option than Cassel. The Chiefs would be foolish not to at least consider using him as a "bridge" to a rookie quarterback they might draft in April. Dec 20 - 8:59 AM
Source: Kansas City Star

http://dev.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3214/kyle-orton

Hammock Parties · 12-21-2011, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

There is a very good chance the QB depth charts is:

Orton
Cassel
Stanzi

next year. Very good chance.

You have to wonder if Cassel will want any part of being a backup, or if the Chiefs want to pay him 5 mil to be a backup.

Mr_Tomahawk · 12-21-2011, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

There is a very good chance the QB depth charts is:

Orton
Cassel
Stanzi

next year. Very good chance.

I don't see us keeping both Orton and Cassel next year. One will be gone.

Denny · 12-21-2011, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM

There is a very good chance the QB depth charts is:

Orton
Cassel
Stanzi

next year. Very good chance.

Cassel is due to make $5.25M in 2012.

Are the Chiefs REALLY going to pay that kind of money for a backup?

FringeNC · 12-21-2011, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega

You have to wonder if Cassel will want any part of being a backup, or if the Chiefs want to pay him 5 mil to be a backup.

Will Cassel even be in the league next year? He's "earned" SO much money from Clark Hunt over the last 3 years, will he bother playing for backup money, because he's certainly done being a starter in this league...

milkman · 12-21-2011, 08:52 AM

This talk of Orton as the potential starter next year is premature.

Romeo Crennel is not the coach going into next season yet.

Orton is a free agent this offseason.

And I don't believe for a second that Pioli has any plan to change QBs.

The idiot had a bird's eye view of what Cassel is in New England, and still hitched his wagon to him when he took the riegns of this franchise.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-21-2011, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega

You have to wonder if Cassel will want any part of being a backup, or if the Chiefs want to pay him 5 mil to be a backup.

Good point about the cash, but Cassel needs to realize that being a backup is his place in this league.

FringeNC · 12-21-2011, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

This talk of Orton as the potential starter next year is premature.

Romeo Crennel is not the coach going into next season yet.

Orton is a free agent this offseason.

And I don't believe for a second that Pioli has any plan to change QBs.

The idiot had a bird's eye view of what Cassel is in New England, and still hitched his wagon to him when he took the riegns of this franchise.

If Orton plays well the next two games, and we let him walk, and go into next year with Cassel, I'd have to imagine there'd be a significant hit to season ticket sales. Left to his own devices, Pioli probably would like to continue with Cassel. Not sure Clark Hunt would allow it to happen.

johnny961 · 12-21-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Could be a killer for him as well if Pioli doesn't like that kind of talk.

Yep. Kinda what I was thinking.

Denny · 12-21-2011, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

This talk of Orton as the potential starter next year is premature.

Romeo Crennel is not the coach going into next season yet.

Orton is a free agent this offseason.

And I don't believe for a second that Pioli has any plan to change QBs.

The idiot had a bird's eye view of what Cassel is in New England, and still hitched his wagon to him when he took the riegns of this franchise.

That talk is all VERY hypothetical.

IF Orton plays as well over the next 2 games.

IF Crennel is the next HC.

Otherwise, don't get too worked up about it.

However...

Kyle is determined to remain a starting QB. In Denver, Orton made it clear that he had no intentions of re-signing to "mentor" or back-up Tebow. He also made it clear that he would not sign an extension/new contract with any team the Broncos might trade him to unless he was clearly to be the starter. He didn't want to be a band-aid QB while a team prepped a draft-pick to replace him.

So unless Cassel is traded or forced to seriously re-structure his contract, I think he looks to remain the starter in KC. Orton won't sign any contract with the Chiefs while that is the case.

Right now, he's simply auditioning for his next team...

chiefscafan · 12-21-2011, 11:34 AM

Well then great do we go into next year

1. Cassel
2. Stanzi
3. Palko

Because if thats the case season tickets will be cancelled for sure. I'm also not sure if cassel wouldn't be booed when he took the field.

Sorry I've seen enoughof cassel now to form the opinion he panics, doesn't go through his progressions, and has no pocket awareness. If this were the case how many games does he get to screw up before stanzi gets a chance.

Sorry I dump cassel and sign orton. Keep Stanzi draft a developmental QB with a lot of potential or trade up for RG 3 or Barkley.

Mr_Tomahawk · 12-21-2011, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Well then great do we go into next year

1. Cassel
2. Stanzi
3. Palko

Because if thats the case season tickets will be cancelled for sure. I'm also not sure if cassel wouldn't be booed when he took the field.

Sorry I've seen enoughof cassel now to form the opinion he panics, doesn't go through his progressions, and has no pocket awareness. If this were the case how many games does he get to screw up before stanzi gets a chance.

Sorry I dump cassel and sign orton. Keep Stanzi draft a developmental QB with a lot of potential or trade up for RG 3 or Barkley.

No.

Palko is in his final year of his contract.

chiefscafan · 12-21-2011, 11:50 AM

Thank god for that I'm starting to think if orton wins out

Are depth chart looks like this

1. Orton
2. Cassel
3. Stanzi

I hope I'm wrong bout cassel

HC/DC Romeo
OC mcdaniels

Mcdaniels worked with both cassel and orton before

Orton knows he can beat out cassel Stanzi competes with cassel for back up.

Though as I said i'd dump cassel not sure pioli will though. I'd draft a QB and have orton as the starter stanzi as backup and let drafted QB learn and be groomed.

jd1020 · 12-21-2011, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

Thank god for that I'm starting to think if orton wins out

Are depth chart looks like this

1. Orton
2. Cassel
3. Stanzi

I hope I'm wrong bout cassel

HC/DC Romeo
OC mcdaniels

Mcdaniels worked with both cassel and orton before

Orton knows he can beat out cassel Stanzi competes with cassel for back up.

Though as I said i'd dump cassel not sure pioli will though. I'd draft a QB and have orton as the starter stanzi as backup and let drafted QB learn and be groomed.

The Chiefs wont pay Cassel 5/7/9mil a year to be backup. He's going to be cut or he's going to be the Chiefs 2012 opening day starter.

Orton is not going to sign a contract to be a backup. If he plays the rest of the year like he did against the Packers, teams will be knocking on his door to be starter. Teams like the Vikings/Jags who have their QBotF but clearly arent ready to start yet or teams like Cleveland/Seattle who need a starting QB and may miss out on the top 3 QB's in the draft.

2012 is going to be:

1) Cassel/Orton
2) Stanzi/???
3) ???/Stanzi

Dexter Manley · 12-21-2011, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

This talk of Orton as the potential starter next year is premature.

Romeo Crennel is not the coach going into next season yet.

Orton is a free agent this offseason.

And I don't believe for a second that Pioli has any plan to change QBs.

The idiot had a bird's eye view of what Cassel is in New England, and still hitched his wagon to him when he took the riegns of this franchise.

You assumed he actually watched...

chiefscafan · 12-21-2011, 02:11 PM

I can't back cassel and his check downs and passes in the dirt

I can't see how they can bring him back

If orton wins out

12-20-2011, 11:19 AM
doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $3343539	Crennel: Orton Should be Starting QB in 2012 if He Wins Final 2 Games This could very well be a repost, so I apologize in advance if it is. I didn't see it anywhere on the first page unless it's mixed in on another thread. Pretty interesting that Crennel has come out and said this already IMO. Interim coach Romeo Crennel said Kyle Orton should be the Chiefs' 2012 starter if he wins the final two games. There's a ton of uncertainty in Kansas City, so Crennel is getting way ahead of himself here. He's no lock to get the head coaching job, Orton is an impending free agent, and Matt Cassel is under contract through 2014. Still, Orton may truly be a better option than Cassel. The Chiefs would be foolish not to at least consider using him as a "bridge" to a rookie quarterback they might draft in April. Dec 20 - 8:59 AM Source: Kansas City Star http://dev.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3214/kyle-orton
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12-21-2011, 08:52 AM	#140
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	This talk of Orton as the potential starter next year is premature. Romeo Crennel is not the coach going into next season yet. Orton is a free agent this offseason. And I don't believe for a second that Pioli has any plan to change QBs. The idiot had a bird's eye view of what Cassel is in New England, and still hitched his wagon to him when he took the riegns of this franchise. __________________
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12-21-2011, 11:34 AM	#145
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Well then great do we go into next year 1. Cassel 2. Stanzi 3. Palko Because if thats the case season tickets will be cancelled for sure. I'm also not sure if cassel wouldn't be booed when he took the field. Sorry I've seen enoughof cassel now to form the opinion he panics, doesn't go through his progressions, and has no pocket awareness. If this were the case how many games does he get to screw up before stanzi gets a chance. Sorry I dump cassel and sign orton. Keep Stanzi draft a developmental QB with a lot of potential or trade up for RG 3 or Barkley.
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12-21-2011, 11:50 AM	#147
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	Thank god for that I'm starting to think if orton wins out Are depth chart looks like this 1. Orton 2. Cassel 3. Stanzi I hope I'm wrong bout cassel HC/DC Romeo OC mcdaniels Mcdaniels worked with both cassel and orton before Orton knows he can beat out cassel Stanzi competes with cassel for back up. Though as I said i'd dump cassel not sure pioli will though. I'd draft a QB and have orton as the starter stanzi as backup and let drafted QB learn and be groomed.
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12-21-2011, 02:11 PM	#150
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	I can't back cassel and his check downs and passes in the dirt I can't see how they can bring him back If orton wins out
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