Life Quitting Smoking - Page 5

chagrin · 08-15-2005, 07:24 PM

Thank you Metro, I don't mean any offense here Big Red but your lungs do regenerate themselves. We could wrangle around with semantics with regards to lost lung 'capacity' but they do regenerate...
see below:

In three days cilia start to regenerate and usually within 6 months the normal cilia function is returned. Also over time, the extra layers of cells will be sloughed off and the lining tissue of the bronchus will return to normal.

Unfortunately, if a smoker waits until a malignancy has started, the outlook is grim. The overall 5 year survival rate for lung cancer is only 14%. Lung cancer, is a disease that while once uncommon, is now the leading cancer killer in both sexes.

**BigRedChief** · 08-15-2005, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chagrin

In three days cilia start to regenerate and usually within 6 months the normal cilia function is returned. Also over time, the extra layers of cells will be sloughed off and the lining tissue of the bronchus will return to normal.

Dude those are not even in your lungs. Its your nose and throat they are talking about. Cilia are what your body uses naturally to move mucus out of your lungs. Smokers burn off that layer. Thats the main reason why they cough, no cilia to remove mucus. Nothing to do with oxygen exchange at the cellular level.

**cdcox** · 08-15-2005, 07:52 PM

I was at a confernce with a coworker last week. We had some down time and time to kill. I asked him what he wanted to do, to which he replied "Smoke". I really admired his sense of self-direction, the fact that he knew exact what he wanted to do. That was enough to get me to consider taking up the habit myself.

4th and Long · 08-15-2005, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

I was at a confernce with a coworker last week. We had some down time and time to kill. I asked him what he wanted to do, to which he replied "Smoke". I really admired his sense of self-direction, the fact that he knew exact what he wanted to do. That was enough to get me to consider taking up the habit myself.

I half expected you to tell some sort of story about talking him out of having a smoke by offering him a bacon samich.

**cdcox** · 08-15-2005, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

I half expected you to tell some sort of story about talking him out of having a smoke by offering him a bacon samich.

I'd rather take up smoking than ruin a good bacon sandwich with cheese.

DanT · 08-15-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

I was at a confernce with a coworker last week. We had some down time and time to kill. I asked him what he wanted to do, to which he replied "Smoke". I really admired his sense of self-direction, the fact that he knew exact what he wanted to do. That was enough to get me to consider taking up the habit myself.

go bo · 08-15-2005, 10:18 PM

i smoked from 1962 to 1987, up to nearly three packs a day at times...

i had quit several times, once for as long as 6 months, but i couldn't stay quit...

i finally went with the nicotine gum and finally quit for good...

i used it at first to replace cigarettes with the gum and then to reduce the nicotine by reducing the frequency of the gum...

also, i found it very important to treat the gum more like chewing tobacco than gum...

if you chew it up like gum, it can make you sick to your stomach (too much nicotine at once)...

i would take like one or two chews on the gum and then stick it between my gum and my lower lip and keep it there for a minute or so...

you can experiment with how many chews and how long to keep it in until you get the hang of it...

once i had quit using the gum regularly, i kept some on me for another year or so and every time i felt like i had to have a cigarette, i would pop a half a piece of gum, chew once, and hold for about a minute...

no more nicotine...

and, btw, it's my understanding that nicotine is as addictive as heroin (in terms of the likelihood of a relapse to use again)...

it sure was for me...

now, 18 years later, i still get the urge to smoke now and then...

oh, btw, i don't agree with avoiding smokers...

it's like a diet, you do good while you're on the diet but when you start eating normally again, you gain back all the weight and more...

if you quit, sooner or later you'll return to your old haunts and your friends and you'll start smoking again...

i say quit while you are around smokers...

after a few weeks, when you smell cigarette smoke, it will be unpleasant instead of alluring...

sorry i went on like this, but it was incredibly hard for me to quit and nothing worked long term until i started using the gum to susbstitute for the cigarette as a source of nicotine...

took me the better part of a year before i was able to go without using the gum at least some of the time, but i doubt it would be that long for a younger man in better shape...

good luck with it...

you'll be glad you did...

KCFalcon59 · 08-16-2005, 06:30 AM

Toothpicks. My dad quit smoking almost 20 years ago. He quit cold turkey. But he chewed the hell out of toothpicks. To this day he keeps a couple toothpicks in his shirt pocket to chew on.

chagrin · 08-16-2005, 07:06 AM

Thank you Stuart Smalley

that is WAY too dramatic. Frazod, don't let the daisy picker over blow the whole thing. That's what those folks do. Stretch out every single minute to make it seem like it's impossible and you need help to make it.
Rewarding himself with Ice Cream? WTF, is your 'husband' a girl? Or a 8 year old?

God, please go find yourself the nearest self help group and feel free to spend the rest of your life there.

Frazod, you can do it, and you don't need to buy an ice cream cone to make it easier.

Willpower my friend, willpower.

**HemiEd** · 08-16-2005, 08:11 AM

Hey Tim, your thread inspired me, I am going to do it to. NASA could have used the crap I coughed up this morning to glue the tiles back on the Space Shuttle.

Hammock Parties · 08-16-2005, 08:14 AM

How about a little shock therapy?

**HemiEd** · 08-16-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Hey Tim, your thread inspired me, I am going to do it to. NASA could have used the crap I coughed up this morning to glue the tiles back on the Space Shuttle.

I just want to kill, mame and mutilate! If one more person walks in my office with a problem I am going to throw them through the window! I need nicotene!

Hang in there Tim!

memyselfI · 08-16-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chagrin

Thank you Stuart Smalley

that is WAY too dramatic. Frazod, don't let the daisy picker over blow the whole thing. That's what those folks do. Stretch out every single minute to make it seem like it's impossible and you need help to make it.
Rewarding himself with Ice Cream? WTF, is your 'husband' a girl? Or a 8 year old?

No, he's not a girl or 8...

but lucky for me, he's rather orally fixated.

And he smoked for 25 some years so it was very difficult to quit as he'd tried gum, toothpicks, the patch, cold turkey, etc.

He's been smoke free now for four years.

**BigRedChief** · 08-16-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

but lucky for me, he's rather orally fixated.

Way too much information.

Steve Sewell · 03-05-2007, 11:54 AM

I'm trying to quit smoking right now as well. I use the visualization of me sitting in at home, on an oxygen tank, with the inability to go anywhere without the oxygen tank, weezing away, bed-ridden. Then I think about the suffering and pain that my wife, children, and their children would likely go through as a result.

Then I visualize myself on vacation or at a family get together with those same people enjoying myself at that age...enjoying my time with the wife, my grown children, and the little grandchildren.

I think what happens is that we get caught up in the moment too often...we say to ourselves "what's another smoke right now going to hurt?" We rationalize based on the here and now and not the future consequences of the action.

Just think of the misery that you will potentially endure if you continue on the path you are on. Then think of the happiness that you will have if you change paths. That's what is keeping me strong right now.

In other words after 72 hours (when nicotine is out of your system officially), it's all mental...

08-15-2005, 07:24 PM	#1
chagrin Giggitty! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missoula, Mt Casino cash: $9804905	Thank you Metro, I don't mean any offense here Big Red but your lungs do regenerate themselves. We could wrangle around with semantics with regards to lost lung 'capacity' but they do regenerate... see below: In three days cilia start to regenerate and usually within 6 months the normal cilia function is returned. Also over time, the extra layers of cells will be sloughed off and the lining tissue of the bronchus will return to normal. Unfortunately, if a smoker waits until a malignancy has started, the outlook is grim. The overall 5 year survival rate for lung cancer is only 14%. Lung cancer, is a disease that while once uncommon, is now the leading cancer killer in both sexes. __________________ Times have changed, so have I, things are better now.
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08-15-2005, 07:52 PM	#3
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-488231	I was at a confernce with a coworker last week. We had some down time and time to kill. I asked him what he wanted to do, to which he replied "Smoke". I really admired his sense of self-direction, the fact that he knew exact what he wanted to do. That was enough to get me to consider taking up the habit myself.
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08-15-2005, 10:18 PM	#7
go bo Flop = Man of Steel!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: independence Casino cash: $10006405	i smoked from 1962 to 1987, up to nearly three packs a day at times... i had quit several times, once for as long as 6 months, but i couldn't stay quit... i finally went with the nicotine gum and finally quit for good... i used it at first to replace cigarettes with the gum and then to reduce the nicotine by reducing the frequency of the gum... also, i found it very important to treat the gum more like chewing tobacco than gum... if you chew it up like gum, it can make you sick to your stomach (too much nicotine at once)... i would take like one or two chews on the gum and then stick it between my gum and my lower lip and keep it there for a minute or so... you can experiment with how many chews and how long to keep it in until you get the hang of it... once i had quit using the gum regularly, i kept some on me for another year or so and every time i felt like i had to have a cigarette, i would pop a half a piece of gum, chew once, and hold for about a minute... no more nicotine... and, btw, it's my understanding that nicotine is as addictive as heroin (in terms of the likelihood of a relapse to use again)... it sure was for me... now, 18 years later, i still get the urge to smoke now and then... oh, btw, i don't agree with avoiding smokers... it's like a diet, you do good while you're on the diet but when you start eating normally again, you gain back all the weight and more... if you quit, sooner or later you'll return to your old haunts and your friends and you'll start smoking again... i say quit while you are around smokers... after a few weeks, when you smell cigarette smoke, it will be unpleasant instead of alluring... sorry i went on like this, but it was incredibly hard for me to quit and nothing worked long term until i started using the gum to susbstitute for the cigarette as a source of nicotine... took me the better part of a year before i was able to go without using the gum at least some of the time, but i doubt it would be that long for a younger man in better shape... good luck with it... you'll be glad you did...
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08-16-2005, 06:30 AM	#8
KCFalcon59 MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Topeka, Kansas Casino cash: $-290000	Toothpicks. My dad quit smoking almost 20 years ago. He quit cold turkey. But he chewed the hell out of toothpicks. To this day he keeps a couple toothpicks in his shirt pocket to chew on.
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08-16-2005, 07:06 AM	#9
chagrin Giggitty! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missoula, Mt Casino cash: $9804905	Thank you Stuart Smalley that is WAY too dramatic. Frazod, don't let the daisy picker over blow the whole thing. That's what those folks do. Stretch out every single minute to make it seem like it's impossible and you need help to make it. Rewarding himself with Ice Cream? WTF, is your 'husband' a girl? Or a 8 year old? God, please go find yourself the nearest self help group and feel free to spend the rest of your life there. Frazod, you can do it, and you don't need to buy an ice cream cone to make it easier. Willpower my friend, willpower. __________________ Times have changed, so have I, things are better now.
Posts: 13,414

08-16-2005, 08:11 AM	#10
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $-359436	Hey Tim, your thread inspired me, I am going to do it to. NASA could have used the crap I coughed up this morning to glue the tiles back on the Space Shuttle.
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08-16-2005, 08:14 AM	#11
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $950478	How about a little shock therapy? __________________ Chiefs game films
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03-05-2007, 11:54 AM	#15
Steve Sewell Starter Join Date: Aug 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	I'm trying to quit smoking right now as well. I use the visualization of me sitting in at home, on an oxygen tank, with the inability to go anywhere without the oxygen tank, weezing away, bed-ridden. Then I think about the suffering and pain that my wife, children, and their children would likely go through as a result. Then I visualize myself on vacation or at a family get together with those same people enjoying myself at that age...enjoying my time with the wife, my grown children, and the little grandchildren. I think what happens is that we get caught up in the moment too often...we say to ourselves "what's another smoke right now going to hurt?" We rationalize based on the here and now and not the future consequences of the action. Just think of the misery that you will potentially endure if you continue on the path you are on. Then think of the happiness that you will have if you change paths. That's what is keeping me strong right now. In other words after 72 hours (when nicotine is out of your system officially), it's all mental...
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