Royals 2010 Kansas City Royals Repository thread - Page 134

SPchief · 04:22 PM

All Royals All The Time!

After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.

Welcome! "Grab a Brew... don't cost nuthin"...[spills beer on feet]

Mecca · 08-06-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

My guess is that if they spend money, it will be for an OF that's younger (and cheaper) than Dunn. The rationalization will be that they want someone young enough to be around and productive when the young guys project to be good.

And who do you think fits that profile? Crawford?

CaliforniaChief · 08-06-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

And who do you think fits that profile? Crawford?

Crawford will get a mega-deal. Maybe Jayson Werth.

**DeezNutz** · 08-06-2010, 10:41 PM

While it would be great to sign someone who will be young enough to be very productive when our "first wave" (

at the Baird-like language, which should make us all piss ourselves) arrives, it's just as important to sign a legit bat so that Moose and others don't press.

Dunn, please.

**alnorth** · 08-06-2010, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

While it would be great to sign someone who will be young enough to be very productive when our "first wave" (

at the Baird-like language, which should make us all piss ourselves) arrives, it's just as important to sign a legit bat so that Moose and others don't press.

Dunn, please.

aside from that, even if a 3-year contract for a good hitter wouldn't make a difference when we are really ready to win the AL Central in 2013+, it would still be nice to... oh, I dont know... have an outside fighting chance to freaking finish above 0.500 sometime this decade. I still have to watch this team in 2011, we dont HAVE to be one of the worst teams in baseball till 2012, do we?

Mecca · 08-06-2010, 10:45 PM

Stocking those draft picks man! Gotta finish shitty for a few more years.

**DeezNutz** · 08-06-2010, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

aside from that, even if a 3-year contract for a good hitter wouldn't make a difference when we are really ready to win the AL Central in 2013+, it would still be nice to... oh, I dont know... have an outside fighting chance to freaking finish above 0.500 sometime this decade. I still have to watch this team in 2011, we dont HAVE to be one of the worst teams in baseball till 2012, do we?

Umm...I'm not sure about the fine language of The Process, so sucking might be obligatory.

Seriously, I'm with you. This "rebuild" shit = fraud. Tax payers paid a ton a money. We have contracts coming off the books. Time to...you know...continue doing business like a ML club.

I will say this: we need to be seriously worried about our rotation. I've been as guilty as anyone at focusing almost entirely on getting a power bat, but a roation of Greinke, Chen, Davies, Bannister, and random douche isn't going to win shit.

We could have two Dunns and still suck balls.

Dunn + legit arm. #3 starter would be fine. Have no clue who this guy might be, though.

CaliforniaChief · 08-06-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Umm...I'm not sure about the fine language of The Process, so sucking might be obligatory.

Seriously, I'm with you. This "rebuild" shit = fraud. Tax payers paid a ton a money. We have contracts coming off the books. Time to...you know...continue doing business like a ML club.

I will say this: we need to be seriously worried about our rotation. I've been as guilty as anyone at focusing almost entirely on getting a power bat, but a roation of Greinke, Chen, Davies, Bannister, and random douche isn't going to win shit.

We could have two Dunns and still suck balls.

Dunn + legit arm. #3 starter would be fine. Have no clue who this guy might be, though.

I think as it's configured, this "Random Douche" you speak of would be the #2 starter on this team. It's unfortunate.

Coach · 08-06-2010, 11:13 PM

Problem is, Meche was a option #2/3 depending on one view before Hillman destroyed him.

Mecca · 08-06-2010, 11:18 PM

Don't worry Deez we got Luke Hochevar!

duncan_idaho · 08-07-2010, 12:26 AM

Again, if you sign Dunn, who are you dumping: Butler or Kila? What are people's thoughts there?

$20 million a year for Dunn? Really? You realize that would make him the seventh highest paid-player in baseball right now, behind only A-Rod, Sabathia, Jeter, Teixeira, Johan Santana and Miguel Cabrera... (with Pujols and likely Cliff Lee passing him in the offseason).

"One of these things is not like the other... one of these things just doesn't belong..."

Never said he sucks, FTR. Just said he's overrated and not a good fit for KC unless Kila flames out or either Butler or Kila is traded.

Sure-Oz · 08-07-2010, 12:27 AM

Luke has decided to take the year off with a damn elbow strain, yes elbow strain...

This rotation is shit and well, Zack should pull off a huge haul including a pitcher back. If the yankees want him give that star prospect catcher of yours, gardner, and hughes

Sure-Oz · 08-07-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Again, if you sign Dunn, who are you dumping: Butler or Kila? What are people's thoughts there?

$20 million a year for Dunn? Really? You realize that would make him the seventh highest paid-player in baseball right now, behind only A-Rod, Sabathia, Jeter, Teixeira, Johan Santana and Miguel Cabrera... (with Pujols and likely Cliff Lee passing him in the offseason).

"One of these things is not like the other... one of these things just doesn't belong..."

Never said he sucks, FTR. Just said he's overrated and not a good fit for KC unless Kila flames out or either Butler or Kila is traded.

I like butler, but i'd rather trade him if we can....he is probably not going to hit more than 20 hr's in a season, that said he's still just 24

**alnorth** · 08-07-2010, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Again, if you sign Dunn, who are you dumping: Butler or Kila? What are people's thoughts there?

Guillen, for starters. Maybe not Dunn for $20M, but we have money to spend.

You might be underestimating how much money we potentially will have freed up with nothing to spend it on this off-season. This isn't like last winter where a lot of money was sunk into crap contracts, DM actually has some work to do and he really has to start making smart moves beginning 4 or 5 months from now. If he screws up free agent signings again this season and next season, then I dont care how good the kids are, it will blunt the success of project 2012/13.

duncan_idaho · 08-07-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I like butler, but i'd rather trade him if we can....he is probably not going to hit more than 20 hr's in a season, that said he's still just 24

Just to make room for Dunn? Or just because?

To me, 24-year-olds who are consistent .300 hitters capable of 60-70 XBHs yearly are the types you shoud be locking up and waiting for them to progress into their prime, not trade low on.

I don't care how many HR Butler hits. If he hits .320 yearly with a total of 60-65 XBH, I'm happy (whether that split is 15 HR and 50 2Bs or 40 HR and 20 2Bs).

Trading Butler this right now/this offseason is merely going to be selling low on one of the best 24-year-old hitters in baseball.

duncan_idaho · 08-07-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Guillen, for starters. Maybe not Dunn for $20M, but we have money to spend.

You might be underestimating how much money we potentially will have freed up with nothing to spend it on this off-season. This isn't like last winter where a lot of money was sunk into crap contracts, DM actually has some work to do and he really has to start making smart moves beginning 4 or 5 months from now. If he screws up free agent signings again this season and next season, then I dont care how good the kids are, it will blunt the success of project 2012/13.

Butler and Kila are limited to 1B/Dh. Dunn, at this point in his career, makes Guillen look light a multiple-year GG in the outfield. He's a 1B (and even there is so bad that his IF is on standing instructions to make whatever plays they can around him, even on pop-ups). Where would he play? Who would go to make room for him?

The 2011 draft is the deepest one since 04. I'd rather spend $15 million in it than $18-20 million on Adam Dunn (and it's not close in my mind)

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