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After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.


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Old 10-20-2010, 12:10 PM   #2446
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Unless the return is outstanding, and I mean out****ingstanding, the Royals shouldn't even begin to consider trading Greinke.

You simply do not let #1 pitchers get away.
Thank you.

The only way I'd be tempted to give him away if someone give us a Jason Hayward/Sarlin Castro caliber type of a player.
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Yes.

We should have a promising, albeit maybe not a "competing," team in 2012. And I want to see Zack turn down a guaranteed pile of cash from the team.

Ideally, I'd like to explore trade options from now through 2011, and pull the trigger if floored by an offer. If not, start working on an extension next off-season, and the club will have to pony up *at least* market value. Yeah, that will be pricey, but that's the cost of doing business after years of not trying at the ML level.
I'm cool with that route as well, but the pitchforks will come out from the masses if we pass on trading him and then he walks after 2012.

Honestly, I think Greinke is just pissed about being on a losing team, and who can really blame him. This isn't a Beltran situation where the guy is just going to go to the biggest contract and the biggest media market. There's a reason why Greinke has a no-trade clause in his current contract to New York, Boston, and Chicago. I think we stand a decent shot of resigning him if we can improve the MLB team with our minor league talent over the next 12-18 months.

Also, I don't think you can discount the positive effect it will have on our young pitchers to have Greinke in place as the team ace, so they can ease into an MLB career without huge immediate expectations (like Greinke had).
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Thank you.

The only way I'd be tempted to give him away if someone give us a Jason Hayward/Sarlin Castro caliber type of a player.
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I'm cool with that route as well, but the pitchforks will come out from the masses if we pass on trading him and then he walks after 2012.

Honestly, I think Greinke is just pissed about being on a losing team, and who can really blame him. This isn't a Beltran situation where the guy is just going to go to the biggest contract and the biggest media market. There's a reason why Greinke has a no-trade clause in his current contract to New York, Boston, and Chicago. I think we stand a decent shot of resigning him if we can improve the MLB team with our minor league talent over the next 12-18 months.

Also, I don't think you can discount the positive effect it will have on our young pitchers to have Greinke in place as the team ace, so they can ease into an MLB career without huge immediate expectations (like Greinke had).
Completely agree with both of these posts. Shit, if Atlanta wants to offer up Heyward, I might be tempted to help drive Greinke to the airport simply b/c a frontline position player is more valuable than even a #1.

And the bold is huge. Unbelievably huge. Let's say Montgomery can stay healthy...(please God), how much better to bring him up as a #2 or, ideally, #3.

Make a push to extend his contract. Worst-case scenario, we take the draft-pick compensation, which would have been better than the Beltran disaster.
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we got an all star and tehean out of the beltran deal. Pretty good.
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25 years ago tonight.

Game 6 1985 World Series.

The Royals, after dropping the first two games at home (in heartbreaking fashion), went to STL to find fans at the stadium with brooms fully expecting the sweep. But behind great pitching from Brett Saberhagan in Game 3 and a titanic HR by Frank White into the left center field bullpen, the Royals beat Jaoquin Andujar and the Cards 6-1.

Frank's HR went into an area that most fly balls died in the old Busch stadium. That ****ing ball went a mile. I wish I could post the .gif. Frank was the first 2B to bat cleanup in a WS game since Jackie Robinson. And he made Andujar pay with that home run.

The Cards responded in game 4 behind two HR's: One from Willie Magee and one from Tito Landrum. Tudor beat Bud Black. Tudor pitched a great game. So did Bud Black.

Game 5 fell to Danny Jackson. And like in the ALCS he responded again. the Royals scored early and often against Bob Forsch. The result was a 6-1 victory.

Looking back, the Cards were lucky to be alive. They hadn't hit at all. The pitching had been solid. But by game 5 it was obvious that the Royals bats were waking.

So it was on to game 6.
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Charlie Liebrandt vs Danny Cox. Cox pitched well but had worked in and out of trouble the entire game. In 7 innings Cox surrendered 7 hits and 1 BB.

Liebrandt went 7 2/3 gave up 4 hits and 2 BB's. He was THE hard luck pitcher in that post season. He had pitched beautifully in his 4 starts and never got a win. Mainly due to zero run support. Since everything really happened in the 8th, we might as well fast forward to that inning. Score some f'ing runs for this guy FF'sS.

Tito Landrum hit a soft fly ball to CF. Pendleton singles to RF and immediately there are nothing but hangnails on every Royals fan. Caesar Cedeno draws a BB and Pendleton moves to 2nd. Two on 1 out. Porter strikes out looking. Two on two out. F me. This can't happen now. Not THIS time.

Brian Harper is sent in to PH for Danny Cox (P) Everybody on earth is waiting for Howser to bring in Quiz. But he doesn't. And I'm ready to kick Dick Howser in the teeth when Brian Harper hits a bloop single to CF to score Pendleton and move Cedeno to 3b. 1-0 Cards. The dream is dead.

"BRIAN HARPER? BRIAN ****ING HARPER"??? This journeyman utility **** is going to send me to my grave with a stake through my heart? Brian Harper? Give me a ****ing break. If the baseball gods hate me that much, at least let it be a guy has some kind of history. BRIAN F'ING HARPER? It was the same bloop that fell in front of AO off Paul Blair's bat that caused me 6 weeks of illness in the 1977 ALCS. And now, 8 years later it had happened again.

At this point, I'm dead. The stadium is dead. Howser is dead to me. FINALLY Dick Howser comes out to get Charlie. Quiz enters the game and retires a Magee on a 4-6 force.

The 8th is Ken Daley pitching for the Cards and other a BB to Wilson, Daley K's Smith and Brett and gets Frank on fly to CF.

Three outs left in the season and then I'll be forced to watch the Cards and The White Rat celebrate in our stadium. It makes me ill to this day just thinking about it.

Top of the 9th Quiz gives up a single to Landrum after a K and a groundout to 1st. Quiz gets out of it by coaxing Pendleton to fly out to Wilson in CF.

Only three outs stood between the Cardinals and another WS title. Three outs. Todd Worrell is called on to bring it home.

Jorge Orta, PH'ing for Darrell Motley, and down 0-2, hits a little tapper toward first. Worrell covers the bag and accepts the ball from Clark and Orta is out. 2 outs to go. But wait! It's a close play and Don Denkinger calls Orta safe. Whitey is livid. Rightfully so. But too bad you ****. You'll win anyway. Sit down you ****.

The stadium is now ALIVE. And Steve Balboni is now at the plate. Down 0-1, Balboni skies a pop up in front of the Royals dugout. Clark, a below average defensive 1B moves all over and when he eventually puts his glove out the ball falls to the ground 4 feet away. (I stood in that exact spot in early March of 86 when the 1986 team had a Grand Opening. I did my best Jack Clark. It's a polaroid in my closet somewhere.) The stadium is now as loud as I've ever heard it (Game 3 1980 ALCS) and it is also now officially a rally.

On the next pitch (0-2) Bones reached out and drove a single to LF. 2 on nobody out. Holy F!!! Can this be happening? It can't. We're the Royals, the long cousin of the A's. It can't really be happening. That kind of miracle only happens to other teams.

Worrell is rattled, Clark is in pieces, and the rest of the Cardinals are on the brink of collapse. Sundberg is up and he lays down a bunt, but Worrell makes a nice play and wheels to 3rd and gets Orta, leaving runners at 2nd and 1st.

Now it's Mcrae chance to shine. On the 1st pitch to Hal, Porter gives up a passed ball and the runners move up. HOLY SHIT!!! IT'S REALLY HAPPENING! THE CARDS ARE COMING APART AT THE SEAMS. Who's going to hit here? The pitcher spot is due up. Who do we have? Who is our LH hitter off the bench?

Whitey is now forced to intentionally walk Mac to load the bases and set up the force. Jack Leyton announces "Hitting in the pitcher's spot is Dane Iorge".

The stadium is now rocking as the chance to exorcise the ghosts of failures past is now upon the entire city. All those close losses to the Yankees. The HR by Chambliss. The 9th inning letdown in 77, the inability of Quiz to pick up the line drive by Manny Trillo in game 5 in 1980 allowing the wining to score for Philly.... all those failures can be put on hold, if Dane Iorge can get Onix home from 3rd. Just get him home and let Quiz pitch 4 more innings. We'll get those bastards in extra innings.

And then it happened: 10:17pm. On a 1-0 pitch from Todd Worrell. Dane Iorge swung and there was a brief total silence from 42,000 people until that ball touched the turf in RF. The call from the Royals radio booth:


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And the pitch from Worrell, swung on and there's a looping liner into RF!!!! BASE HIT!!! One run is home and here comes Sundberg!!!.... Here's the throw from Van Slyke!!!.... SAFE!!!!! ROYALS WIN!!! ROYALS WIN!!!!

There was still work to be done. But the Cardinals knew they were done. The Royals knew the Cardinals were done.

It's an incredible feeling to be a fan of a team that pulls a comeback like that. On the biggest stage. It was one of the greatest sporting moments of my life. What must it be like for a guy like Dane Iorge? He's in his 60's now. But if I saw him today I'd want to hug the guy.
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Charlie Liebrandt vs Danny Cox. Cox pitched well but had worked in and out of trouble the entire game. In 7 innings Cox surrendered 7 hits and 1 BB.

Liebrandt went 7 2/3 gave up 4 hits and 2 BB's. He was THE hard luck pitcher in that post season. He had pitched beautifully in his 4 starts and never got a win. Mainly due to zero run support. Since everything really happened in the 8th, we might as well fast forward to that inning. Score some f'ing runs for this guy FF'sS.

Tito Landrum hit a soft fly ball to CF. Pendleton singles to RF and immediately there are nothing but hangnails on every Royals fan. Caesar Cedeno draws a BB and Pendleton moves to 2nd. Two on 1 out. Porter strikes out looking. Two on two out. F me. This can't happen now. Not THIS time.

Brian Harper is sent in to PH for Danny Cox (P) Everybody on earth is waiting for Howser to bring in Quiz. But he doesn't. And I'm ready to kick Dick Howser in the teeth when Brian Harper hits a bloop single to CF to score Pendleton and move Cedeno to 3b. 1-0 Cards. The dream is dead.

"BRIAN HARPER? BRIAN ****ING HARPER"??? This journeyman utility **** is going to send me to my grave with a stake through my heart? Brian Harper? Give me a ****ing break. If the baseball gods hate me that much, at least let it be a guy has some kind of history. BRIAN F'ING HARPER? It was the same bloop that fell in front of AO off Paul Blair's bat that caused me 6 weeks of illness in the 1977 ALCS. And now, 8 years later it had happened again.

At this point, I'm dead. The stadium is dead. Howser is dead to me. FINALLY Dick Howser comes out to get Charlie. Quiz enters the game and retires a Magee on a 4-6 force.

The 8th is Ken Daley pitching for the Cards and other a BB to Wilson, Daley K's Smith and Brett and gets Frank on fly to CF.

Three outs left in the season and then I'll be forced to watch the Cards and The White Rat celebrate in our stadium. It makes me ill to this day just thinking about it.

Top of the 9th Quiz gives up a single to Landrum after a K and a groundout to 1st. Quiz gets out of it by coaxing Pendleton to fly out to Wilson in CF.

Only three outs stood between the Cardinals and another WS title. Three outs. Todd Worrell is called on to bring it home.

Jorge Orta, PH'ing for Darrell Motley, and down 0-2, hits a little tapper toward first. Worrell covers the bag and accepts the ball from Clark and Orta is out. 2 outs to go. But wait! It's a close play and Don Denkinger calls Orta safe. Whitey is livid. Rightfully so. But too bad you ****. You'll win anyway. Sit down you ****.

The stadium is now ALIVE. And Steve Balboni is now at the plate. Down 0-1, Balboni skies a pop up in front of the Royals dugout. Clark, a below average defensive 1B moves all over and when he eventually puts his glove out the ball falls to the ground 4 feet away. (I stood in that exact spot in early March of 86 when the 1986 team had a Grand Opening. I did my best Jack Clark. It's a polaroid in my closet somewhere.) The stadium is now as loud as I've ever heard it (Game 3 1980 ALCS) and it is also now officially a rally.

On the next pitch (0-2) Bones reached out and drove a single to LF. 2 on nobody out. Holy F!!! Can this be happening? It can't. We're the Royals, the long cousin of the A's. It can't really be happening. That kind of miracle only happens to other teams.

Worrell is rattled, Clark is in pieces, and the rest of the Cardinals are on the brink of collapse. Sundberg is up and he lays down a bunt, but Worrell makes a nice play and wheels to 3rd and gets Orta, leaving runners at 2nd and 1st.

Now it's Mcrae chance to shine. On the 1st pitch to Hal, Porter gives up a passed ball and the runners move up. HOLY SHIT!!! IT'S REALLY HAPPENING! THE CARDS ARE COMING APART AT THE SEAMS. Who's going to hit here? The pitcher spot is due up. Who do we have? Who is our LH hitter off the bench?

Whitey is now forced to intentionally walk Mac to load the bases and set up the force. Jack Leyton announces "Hitting in the pitcher's spot is Dane Iorge".

The stadium is now rocking as the chance to exorcise the ghosts of failures past is now upon the entire city. All those close losses to the Yankees. The HR by Chambliss. The 9th inning letdown in 77, the inability of Quiz to pick up the line drive by Manny Trillo in game 5 in 1980 allowing the wining to score for Philly.... all those failures can be put on hold, if Dane Iorge can get Onix home from 3rd. Just get him home and let Quiz pitch 4 more innings. We'll get those bastards in extra innings.

And then it happened: 10:17pm. On a 1-0 pitch from Todd Worrell. Dane Iorge swung and there was a brief total silence from 42,000 people until that ball touched the turf in RF. The call from the Royals radio booth:





There was still work to be done. But the Cardinals knew they were done. The Royals knew the Cardinals were done.

It's an incredible feeling to be a fan of a team that pulls a comeback like that. On the biggest stage. It was one of the greatest sporting moments of my life. What must it be like for a guy like Dane Iorge? He's in his 60's now. But if I saw him today I'd want to hug the guy.
Great post William. I was 8 at the time and don't remember it as well as you do, but I've watched the video many times. I actually got goosebumps reading your quote of the radio call.

I want so badly for the Royals to bring that kind of excitement. It sucks being in baseball purgatory.
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NEW YORK -- The New York Times is reporting on its website that San Francisco Giants outfielder Jose Guillen, who was left off the team's postseason roster, is linked to a federal investigation into shipments of human growth hormone.

The story, posted Thursday night and citing several unidentified lawyers, says federal authorities told Major League Baseball they were looking into shipments of HGH sent to Guillen's wife in the Bay Area.

The Times says that was just before the postseason began. Guillen was left off the Giants' roster for all three rounds because of a neck injury, according to the team.

The San Francisco Chronicle reported in 2007 that Guillen allegedly purchased more than $19,000 worth of HGH and other drugs between May 2002 and June 2005.
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