2010 Kansas City Royals Repository thread

[SPchief]

All Royals All The Time!

After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.


Welcome! "Grab a Brew... don't cost nuthin"...[spills beer on feet]

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

If anyone was paying attention, you just saw a team that did something similar to what the Royals are doing play in the World Series. They did it through their farm system and trades (with the Braves no less). The Texas Rangers had the best farm system in the majors. They made trades (Cliff Lee) and build up their team.

The Royals are doing it the right way under a small market style. The Royals have a Who's who of minor league players at almost every position in the Minors. They have the best 3rd base prospect (Moose Tacos). They have 3 of the best pitching prospects. However, these kids are 2 years away from being stars. Baseball America is considering 11 players for minor league player of the year and four of them were Royals. It used to be that the Royals had 1 or 2 big time prospects in the minors, now they have 9 big time prospects. They have those Moos, Hosmer, Colon, Duffy, Lamb, Montgomery, Will Myers (maybe the best prospect, better numbers at C position than Joe Mauer and Buster Posey in minors and is only 19).

Most of these players spent last year in the A/AA league. They will need another year in AA/AAA before they jump to the Majors, but don't let that fool you, scouts are gushing over some of these propects. The Royals will try to get all of them in the Majors for a couple years together.

My last point, it seems like Greinke would be gone or in the last year of his contract when these kids make it to the bigs, so the Royals are looking to shop him.

If you are a Royals fan, here is what you want:
You want Cliff Lee to go to the Yankees. The teams that want Greinke are the Colorado Rockies and the Texas Rangers. The Rangers have exceptional prospects.

The Royals would want 2 top shelf prospects and a Major League ready player. The Rangers would supposedly look to offer Derek Holland (LH pitcher) and 2 of their top prospects (1 is Tanner Scheppers RH fireballer, who the Royals want). The Royals are in a really good position, it will just take a couple years to get there.

As for the extra money saved by the Royals, I want them to sign one player to a longer term contract and I am thinking to keep him for 7-9 more years. He is the best at his position in the Major Leagues, the Mexicutioner Joakim Soria.

The Royals are in a very similar situation to where the Rangers were a couple of years ago. Glad I'm not the only one who sees the similarities. Also their GM Jon Daniels started off making some bone headed trades as well.

[OmahaChief]

Originally Posted by sedated

Oh please. And I'm sure you'd be begging to get rid of Hines Ward if he was on the Chiefs - "He smiled after he couldn't cath that pass - he must not care"

Maybe if you had looked at any of the old Royals threads would see my disdain for DDJ. I never like the way he played and wanted him gone last year. He was a veteran that looked happy to collect his paycheck regardless if the team won or not. I would rather have a redass on the team that is pissed off most of the time....with the exception of Kendall, he was just dead money.

[eazyb81]

Both DDJ and Joe Randa were annoying smilers.

DDJ was probably just happy, but I think Randa's face was shaped in a way that made it look like he was always grinning, kind of like The Joker.

[Sure-Oz]

DDJ im sure wants to win, but at the same time he's probably smiling cause hes doing what he loves.

[Sure-Oz]

DDJ im sure wants to win, but at the same time he's probably smiling cause hes doing what he loves.

[SithCeNtZ]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

If anyone was paying attention, you just saw a team that did something similar to what the Royals are doing play in the World Series. They did it through their farm system and trades (with the Braves no less). The Texas Rangers had the best farm system in the majors. They made trades (Cliff Lee) and build up their team.

The Royals are doing it the right way under a small market style. The Royals have a Who's who of minor league players at almost every position in the Minors. They have the best 3rd base prospect (Moose Tacos). They have 3 of the best pitching prospects. However, these kids are 2 years away from being stars. Baseball America is considering 11 players for minor league player of the year and four of them were Royals. It used to be that the Royals had 1 or 2 big time prospects in the minors, now they have 9 big time prospects. They have those Moos, Hosmer, Colon, Duffy, Lamb, Montgomery, Will Myers (maybe the best prospect, better numbers at C position than Joe Mauer and Buster Posey in minors and is only 19).

Most of these players spent last year in the A/AA league. They will need another year in AA/AAA before they jump to the Majors, but don't let that fool you, scouts are gushing over some of these propects. The Royals will try to get all of them in the Majors for a couple years together.

My last point, it seems like Greinke would be gone or in the last year of his contract when these kids make it to the bigs, so the Royals are looking to shop him.

If you are a Royals fan, here is what you want:
You want Cliff Lee to go to the Yankees. The teams that want Greinke are the Colorado Rockies and the Texas Rangers. The Rangers have exceptional prospects.

The Royals would want 2 top shelf prospects and a Major League ready player. The Rangers would supposedly look to offer Derek Holland (LH pitcher) and 2 of their top prospects (1 is Tanner Scheppers RH fireballer, who the Royals want). The Royals are in a really good position, it will just take a couple years to get there.

As for the extra money saved by the Royals, I want them to sign one player to a longer term contract and I am thinking to keep him for 7-9 more years. He is the best at his position in the Major Leagues, the Mexicutioner Joakim Soria.

I'm sorry but the Rangers being the #1 system in the minors has almost zero to do with their success. Feliz was good and Andrus is a good SS defensively but pretty bad offensively, but that's about it from their farm system other than an aging Young and Kinsler who had just ok seasons(neither had an OPS above .800). In reality, the Rangers got extremely lucky that Wilson and Lewis turned out to be solid if unspectacular, Hamilton became an MVP, Nelson Cruz hits .318/.374/.576 and hits 55 HR's in 2 years despite hitting a combined 22 in his first 4 years in the majors and never being considered a good prospect, they got one more year out of an aging superstar who probably won't last through next year(Vlad), and they played in a division where the A's and Mariners weren't anything special and the Angels had a down year.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

If anyone was paying attention, you just saw a team that did something similar to what the Royals are doing play in the World Series. They did it through their farm system and trades (with the Braves no less). The Texas Rangers had the best farm system in the majors. They made trades (Cliff Lee) and build up their team.

The Royals are doing it the right way under a small market style. The Royals have a Who's who of minor league players at almost every position in the Minors. They have the best 3rd base prospect (Moose Tacos). They have 3 of the best pitching prospects. However, these kids are 2 years away from being stars. Baseball America is considering 11 players for minor league player of the year and four of them were Royals. It used to be that the Royals had 1 or 2 big time prospects in the minors, now they have 9 big time prospects. They have those Moos, Hosmer, Colon, Duffy, Lamb, Montgomery, Will Myers (maybe the best prospect, better numbers at C position than Joe Mauer and Buster Posey in minors and is only 19).

Most of these players spent last year in the A/AA league. They will need another year in AA/AAA before they jump to the Majors, but don't let that fool you, scouts are gushing over some of these propects. The Royals will try to get all of them in the Majors for a couple years together.

I don't think anyone in this thread is complaining about the farm system; most of us are aware and excited. However, many of Dayton's decisions at the major league level have been questionable at best. The fear is that once the young guys are ready, DM won't be capable of making the right moves (trading arms for bats for example) to actually mold a winner.

He was on 810 this morning, and when providing a scouting report on Mazzaro, led off with, "Scout X had Mazzaro touching 97 with his fastball last season". Bullshit. Either he's trying to make fans feel better about the trade, or he's projecting what he hopes Mazzaro can be, not what he is. The latter is very dangerous, and I think it's happened before with other players we've acquired (Yuni, Farnsworth, Ankiel, etc.).

Another point, DM spoke this morning about our OF depth, and mentioned that Myers was likely going to play some outfield this coming season; I think we can officially pencil him into RF in future lineups.

[Sure-Oz]

We pretty much thought Myers wasn't going to play catcher anyway

[KevB]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

We pretty much thought Myers wasn't going to play catcher anyway

Sure, but it's the first time I've actually heard the words come out of DM's mouth, so I thought people would be interested to hear. He transitioned into talking about how happy they are with Perez's progress at catcher, so the path is pretty clear for both at this point.

[jbwm89]

We basically signed Ankiel to trade him. It is not like Moore thought he was a piece of the puzzle. Otherwise I somewhat agree I am nervous

[Sure-Oz]

I hear ya...

It is frustrating to hear dayton always talk of potential with every acquisition rather than what they are right now

[Sure-Oz]

I hear ya...

It is frustrating to hear dayton always talk of potential with every acquisition rather than what they are right now

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by KevB

I don't think anyone in this thread is complaining about the farm system; most of us are aware and excited. However, many of Dayton's decisions at the major league level have been questionable at best. The fear is that once the young guys are ready, DM won't be capable of making the right moves (trading arms for bats for example) to actually mold a winner.

He was on 810 this morning, and when providing a scouting report on Mazzaro, led off with, "Scout X had Mazzaro touching 97 with his fastball last season". Bullshit. Either he's trying to make fans feel better about the trade, or he's projecting what he hopes Mazzaro can be, not what he is. The latter is very dangerous, and I think it's happened before with other players we've acquired (Yuni, Farnsworth, Ankiel, etc.).

Another point, DM spoke this morning about our OF depth, and mentioned that Myers was likely going to play some outfield this coming season; I think we can officially pencil him into RF in future lineups.

Exactly. The management of the ML roster has been as impressively bad as the stockpiling of talent in the farm system has been impressively good.

We have to hope that the latter can effectively cover up the former, because there have been plenty of microcosms (Kendall, Betancourt, Francoeur????) that suggest that DM just doesn't get it.

[DeezNutz]

Blue Jays interested in Greinke and Gordon:

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/11/...x_gordon_t.php

2 top prospects for Greinke isn't enough.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Blue Jays interested in Greinke and Gordon:

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/2010/11/...x_gordon_t.php

2 top prospects for Greinke isn't enough.

We're going to be hearing about phone calls and rumors all winter, but I very much doubt a trade will happen because of the king's ransom we are demanding and Greinke's refusal to play on the east coast.