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SPchief · 04:22 PM

All Royals All The Time!

After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.

Welcome! "Grab a Brew... don't cost nuthin"...[spills beer on feet]

**alnorth** · 12-13-2010, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

<== at the people that TRULY believe this.

This team has done nothing but taken home-grown talent and traded it away once they develope into good quality major league players.

I can't possibly seem to think management style is going to change as long as Glass is the owner and calling the shots.

You are ignorant. Last year the royals spent more than just about 40% of baseball with a payroll near average, despite a way below average market. We spent a *LOT* more (on bad players) than Texas. Money has not been our big issue in years, it has been stupidity.

**alnorth** · 12-13-2010, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I will believe it when I see it.

Fine, it is the show-me state. Come back in 2013

**dirk digler** · 12-13-2010, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

Those last 10 years were hot gas spouted by the royal lancers, not backed up by statistics. We havent had a good minor league system in decades. This time really is different. If you dont see that, you either are not paying attention, or you are irrevocably wedded to a conclusion that no set of facts can move you off of.

Ok so what statistics do you have that backs up your argument that this time is different?

**alnorth** · 12-13-2010, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Ok so what statistics do you have that backs up your argument that this time is different?

Baseball America is the undisputed authority on ranking farm systems. Every team that has ever been ranked #1 in the last 15 or 20 years by B.A. (except once, I believe) has made the playoffs within a few years. The royals are a stone-cold lock to be #1. Not just that, but the experts who spend way too much time looking at minor leaguers have been speculating that the 2011 royals farm system could be the best system any team has ever had in the last decade, even better than the Rays a couple years ago and the Rangers before that. The message you hear from unbiased people who normally dont give a flying f*** about the Royals is basically that the Royal minor league system is almost too good for even an incompetant GM to screw up. (Maybe we'll find a way.)

As for before now, going back 15 years, we briefly ascended to #9 I believe, but we've mostly been in the crapper in all farm rankings. You cant win by producing a Beltran or a Damon every few years and almost nothing else, our drafting has been laughably bad.

**alnorth** · 12-13-2010, 04:56 PM

We also forgot to mention that one-fourth (6 players) of Team USA competing in South America this Fall were Royal minor leaguers. No team had ever been represented by more than 3 before this year. That is ridiculous.

24 Chris Archer RHP R-R 6-3 180 9/26/1988 Clayton, N.C. Chicago Cubs Tennessee (AA)
18 Brian Barden IF R-R 5-11 200 4/2/1981 Templeton, Calif. Florida Marlins New Orleans (AAA)
36 Bruce Billings RHP R-R 6-0 200 11/18/1985 San Diego, Calif. Colorado Rockies Tulsa (AA)
28 Anthony Carter RHP L-R 6-3 180 4/4/1986 Decatur, Ga. Chicago White Sox Birmingham (AA)
12 Tim Collins LHP L-L 5-7 155 8/22/1989 Worcester, Mass. Kansas City Royals Omaha (AAA)
2 Chase d'Arnaud IF R-R 6-1 175 1/21/1987 Torrance, Calif. Pittsburgh Pirates Altoona (AA)
45 Justin De Fratus RHP S-R 6-4 215 10/21/1987 Ventura, Calif. Philadelphia Phillies Reading (AA)
14 Danny Duffy LHP L-L 6-3 195 12/21/1988 Lompoc, Calif. Kansas City Royals Northwest Arkansas (AA)
40 Brad Eldred IF R-R 6-5 290 7/12/1980 Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Colorado Rockies Colorado Springs (AAA)
30 Todd Frazier OF R-R 6-3 220 2/12/1986 Point Pleasant, N.J. Cincinnati Reds Louisville (AAA)
37 Bryan Henry RHP R-R 6-3 205 2/15/1985 Tampa, Fla. Arizona Diamondbacks Mobile (AA)
26 Nick Hill LHP L-L 6-0 190 1/30/1985 Knoxville, Tenn. Seattle Mariners West Tenn (AA)
47 Jamie Hoffmann OF R-R 6-3 235 8/20/1984 New Ulm, Minn. Los Angeles Dodgers Albuquerque (AAA)
35 Eric Hosmer IF L-L 6-4 215 10/24/1989 Cooper City, Fla. Kansas City Royals Northwest Arkansas (AA)
27 Brett Jackson OF L-R 6-2 210 8/2/1988 Berkeley, Calif. Chicago Cubs Tennessee (AA)
19 Erik Kratz C R-R 6-4 255 6/15/1980 Telford, Pa. Pittsburgh Pirates Indianapolis (AAA)
38 Andre Lamontagne RHP S-R 6-5 210 3/24/1986 Manchester, N.H. Milwaukee Brewers Huntsville (AA)
15 Mike Montgomery LHP L-L 6-5 180 7/1/1989 Valencia, Calif. Kansas City Royals Northwest Arkansas (AA)
8 Mike Moustakas IF L-R 5-11 230 9/11/1988 Los Angeles, Calif. Kansas City Royals Omaha (AAA)
4 Jordan Pacheco C R-R 6-1 190 1/30/1986 Albuquerque, N.M. Colorado Rockies Tulsa (AA)
16 Cord Phelps IF S-R 6-2 200 1/23/1987 Stanford, Calif. Cleveland Indians Columbus (AAA)
34 Todd Redmond RHP R-R 6-3 215 5/17/1985 St. Petersburg, Fla. Atlanta Braves Gwinett (AAA)
17 Everett Teaford LHP L-L 6-0 155 5/15/1984 Alpharetta, Ga. Kansas City Royals Northwest Arkansas (AA)
25 Mike Trout OF R-R 6-1 217 8/7/1991 Millville, N.J. Los Angeles Angels Rancho Cucamonga (A)

edit: oh hey cool, just read that 3 royal prospects (only 4 players total from team USA, so 3 KC and 1 non-KC) made the all-tournament team. Hosmer was selected as the top 1st baseman, Moustakas the top 3rd baseman, and Montgomery the top starting left-handed pitcher.

**doomy3** · 12-13-2010, 09:03 PM

Not directly Royals' related, but pretty interesting:

Cliff Lee-S- Rangers Dec. 13 - 9:54 pm et

According to Jack Curry of YES Network, "there is a belief" that Cliff Lee is going to the Phillies.
Now wouldn't that be something? Of course, Curry also mentions that if Lee picks the Phillies, it will be for "a lot" less money than the Yankees offered. The Yankees usually get their man, but remember that Greg Maddux turned them down for less money in the past. Lee reportedly enjoyed his time in Philadelphia and his return would give the Phillies one of the most formidable starting rotations in recent memory. Stay tuned.
Source: Jack Curry on Twitter
Related: Yankees, Phillies

ChiefsCountry · 12-13-2010, 09:24 PM

Philly would have what:

Halladay
Lee
Hamels
Oswalt

Good night.

tk13 · 12-13-2010, 09:30 PM

Yikes. That might be even more frightening than going to the Yankees. I'd still be surprised if that happened.

CaliforniaChief · 12-13-2010, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Philly would have what:

Halladay
Lee
Hamels
Oswalt

Good night.

All they would need would be a solid guy who knows he's a #5. Brian Bannister?

In all seriousness, that's just sick.

Priest31kc · 12-13-2010, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Philly would have what:

Halladay
Lee
Hamels
Oswalt

Good night.

That's not even fair.

**DeezNutz** · 12-13-2010, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3

Not directly Royals' related, but pretty interesting:

Cliff Lee-S- Rangers Dec. 13 - 9:54 pm et

According to Jack Curry of YES Network, "there is a belief" that Cliff Lee is going to the Phillies.
Now wouldn't that be something? Of course, Curry also mentions that if Lee picks the Phillies, it will be for "a lot" less money than the Yankees offered. The Yankees usually get their man, but remember that Greg Maddux turned them down for less money in the past. Lee reportedly enjoyed his time in Philadelphia and his return would give the Phillies one of the most formidable starting rotations in recent memory. Stay tuned.
Source: Jack Curry on Twitter
Related: Yankees, Phillies

The Bunk · 12-13-2010, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

<== at the people that TRULY believe this.

This team has done nothing but taken home-grown talent and traded it away once they develope into good quality major league players.

I can't possibly seem to think management style is going to change as long as Glass is the owner and calling the shots.

Other than Damon and Beltran, can you name a "home-grown" player they've traded away that turned into a good quality major league player?

**DeezNutz** · 12-13-2010, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bunk

Other than Damon and Beltran, can you name a "home-grown" player they've traded away that turned into a good quality major league player?

Sabes. For a year or two.

The return was terrible.

ChiefsCountry · 12-13-2010, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bunk

Other than Damon and Beltran, can you name a "home-grown" player they've traded away that turned into a good quality major league player?

David Cone, the first time around.

The Bunk · 12-13-2010, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Sabes. For a year or two.

The return was terrible.

I thought we were slamming Glass in this thread? Sabes was traded in '91.

01-06-2010, 01:51 AM
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12-13-2010, 04:56 PM	#3170
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	We also forgot to mention that one-fourth (6 players) of Team USA competing in South America this Fall were Royal minor leaguers. No team had ever been represented by more than 3 before this year. That is ridiculous. 24 Chris Archer RHP R-R 6-3 180 9/26/1988 Clayton, N.C. Chicago Cubs Tennessee (AA) 18 Brian Barden IF R-R 5-11 200 4/2/1981 Templeton, Calif. Florida Marlins New Orleans (AAA) 36 Bruce Billings RHP R-R 6-0 200 11/18/1985 San Diego, Calif. Colorado Rockies Tulsa (AA) 28 Anthony Carter RHP L-R 6-3 180 4/4/1986 Decatur, Ga. Chicago White Sox Birmingham (AA) 12 Tim Collins LHP L-L 5-7 155 8/22/1989 Worcester, Mass. Kansas City Royals Omaha (AAA) 2 Chase d'Arnaud IF R-R 6-1 175 1/21/1987 Torrance, Calif. Pittsburgh Pirates Altoona (AA) 45 Justin De Fratus RHP S-R 6-4 215 10/21/1987 Ventura, Calif. Philadelphia Phillies Reading (AA) 14 Danny Duffy LHP L-L 6-3 195 12/21/1988 Lompoc, Calif. Kansas City Royals Northwest Arkansas (AA) 40 Brad Eldred IF R-R 6-5 290 7/12/1980 Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Colorado Rockies Colorado Springs (AAA) 30 Todd Frazier OF R-R 6-3 220 2/12/1986 Point Pleasant, N.J. Cincinnati Reds Louisville (AAA) 37 Bryan Henry RHP R-R 6-3 205 2/15/1985 Tampa, Fla. Arizona Diamondbacks Mobile (AA) 26 Nick Hill LHP L-L 6-0 190 1/30/1985 Knoxville, Tenn. Seattle Mariners West Tenn (AA) 47 Jamie Hoffmann OF R-R 6-3 235 8/20/1984 New Ulm, Minn. Los Angeles Dodgers Albuquerque (AAA) 35 Eric Hosmer IF L-L 6-4 215 10/24/1989 Cooper City, Fla. Kansas City Royals Northwest Arkansas (AA) 27 Brett Jackson OF L-R 6-2 210 8/2/1988 Berkeley, Calif. Chicago Cubs Tennessee (AA) 19 Erik Kratz C R-R 6-4 255 6/15/1980 Telford, Pa. Pittsburgh Pirates Indianapolis (AAA) 38 Andre Lamontagne RHP S-R 6-5 210 3/24/1986 Manchester, N.H. Milwaukee Brewers Huntsville (AA) 15 Mike Montgomery LHP L-L 6-5 180 7/1/1989 Valencia, Calif. Kansas City Royals Northwest Arkansas (AA) 8 Mike Moustakas IF L-R 5-11 230 9/11/1988 Los Angeles, Calif. Kansas City Royals Omaha (AAA) 4 Jordan Pacheco C R-R 6-1 190 1/30/1986 Albuquerque, N.M. Colorado Rockies Tulsa (AA) 16 Cord Phelps IF S-R 6-2 200 1/23/1987 Stanford, Calif. Cleveland Indians Columbus (AAA) 34 Todd Redmond RHP R-R 6-3 215 5/17/1985 St. Petersburg, Fla. Atlanta Braves Gwinett (AAA) 17 Everett Teaford LHP L-L 6-0 155 5/15/1984 Alpharetta, Ga. Kansas City Royals Northwest Arkansas (AA) 25 Mike Trout OF R-R 6-1 217 8/7/1991 Millville, N.J. Los Angeles Angels Rancho Cucamonga (A) edit: oh hey cool, just read that 3 royal prospects (only 4 players total from team USA, so 3 KC and 1 non-KC) made the all-tournament team. Hosmer was selected as the top 1st baseman, Moustakas the top 3rd baseman, and Montgomery the top starting left-handed pitcher. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry Last edited by alnorth; 12-13-2010 at 05:15 PM..
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12-13-2010, 09:03 PM	#3171
doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $3333539	Not directly Royals' related, but pretty interesting: Cliff Lee-S- Rangers Dec. 13 - 9:54 pm et According to Jack Curry of YES Network, "there is a belief" that Cliff Lee is going to the Phillies. Now wouldn't that be something? Of course, Curry also mentions that if Lee picks the Phillies, it will be for "a lot" less money than the Yankees offered. The Yankees usually get their man, but remember that Greg Maddux turned them down for less money in the past. Lee reportedly enjoyed his time in Philadelphia and his return would give the Phillies one of the most formidable starting rotations in recent memory. Stay tuned. Source: Jack Curry on Twitter Related: Yankees, Phillies
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12-13-2010, 09:24 PM	#3172
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1371248	Philly would have what: Halladay Lee Hamels Oswalt Good night.
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12-13-2010, 09:30 PM	#3173
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1677500	Yikes. That might be even more frightening than going to the Yankees. I'd still be surprised if that happened.
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