2010 Kansas City Royals Repository thread

[SPchief]

All Royals All The Time!

After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.


Welcome! "Grab a Brew... don't cost nuthin"...[spills beer on feet]

[Demonpenz]

the headline for the royals caravan in my email was "Royals fans, your suffering is over!" no lie

[KChiefs1]

I'll post the Royals Review Top 25 prospects because of the depth of the organization. Here's 13-25:

http://www.royalsreview.com/2010/12/...rospects-26-20

25. Paulo Orlando--CF--DOB:11/1/85

The Royals got Orlando from the White Sox for Horacio Ramirez in 2008. He is a terrific athlete but being from Brazil which is not a baseball hotbed, he's always been considered a little raw. He has developed slowly but his 2010 numbers were encouraging (especially after a tough 2009). He started off slowly in April but hit well the rest of the season. Orlando upped his walk rate, dropped his K rate and increased his power. It should be noted his OPS on the road was 724 while it was 960 at home (he hit 10 of his 13 HR at home). Orlando is supposed to be a very good defensive CF. He was left unprotected for the Rule V draft and thankfully was not taken. He should get playing time at Omaha in 2011 but he will have to fight for time in CF with Jarrod Dyson and maybe Lorenzo Cain/Derrick Robinson. He could be a nice 4th OF in the future.


24. Will Smith--LHP--DOB:7/10/89

If you want to study how to not handle a pitching prospect, look at what the Angels did to Will Smith last year. Having all of 20 starts at Low-A, they gave him 37 IP at A+ -and while he wasn't very successful at A+, they moved him all the way to AAA where he (predictably) struggled. They dropped him down to AA before he was traded to the Royals in the Callaspo deal. He pitched really well at Wilmington--upping his K rate, dropping his BB rate and getting more ground balls. Smith doesn't have a big ceiling. His fastball is average and so is his curveball. His changeup is inconsistent but can also be a decent pitch. But lefties with 3 average pitches who can get groundballs have had long careers in the majors. He could get a little more time at A+ to start 2011.

23: Jason Adam--RHP--DOB:8/4/91


The Royals took Blue Valley Northwest righty Jason Adam with their 5th Round pick of the 2010 draft. The Royals gave him well above slot to sign ($800,000). He's a big right-hander known for a good fastball. The Royals didn't have Adam get in a few innings in the Arizona Summer League but he impressed in Instructional League during October. Both Keith Law and Baseball America wrote up an impressive outing where his fastball sat around 93-95 and touched 97. He also had an impressive curveball. He also throws a changeup that I'm sure he needs to be more consistent with because almost all HS pitchers need to be more consistent with their change. Law also noted that his command was excellent and that he looked like he should have been a 1st Round pick. It's probable that Law and BA saw Adam on a good day. But if shows that the kid has a good ceiling. If the Royals are feeling good about his progress, Adam could start 2011 at Kane County.

22. Louis Coleman--RHP--DOB:4/4/86

The Royals took Coleman in the 5th Round of the 2009 draft. He was a Senior pick from LSU. He had done both starting and relieving in college but the Royals have used him as a reliever. He throws a good fastball/slider combination. His delivery is very low from the right side making him particularly difficult on RH batters. He gives up a lot of fly balls, but so far the HR hasn't hurt him too bad. I find it interesting that he had 42 relief appearance and 92 IP--over 2 innings an outing which is pretty unheard of for a reliever. He'll turn 25 just as the season starts and I think he will compete for a major league job in Spring Training. It will be interesting to see how the Royals use him at the big league level--with a starting staff that could be tough to watch at times, a versatile and effective reliever who can come in and give 2 or 3 solid innings could be really valuable.

21. Derrick Robinson--CF--DOB:9/28/87

Derrick Robinson closed out 2009 on a tear, hitting and hitting with some power. He then opened 2010 with an OPS near 900 for the month of April. But the rest of the season was spent with OPS a little south of 700. He upped his walk rate a little bit. He's still a guy who can fly--stealing bases and covering ground in the OF. It's hard to imagine him being a starting CF for a good team but he could be a useful 4th or 5th outfielder. He might have to go back to Northwest Arkansas in 2011. There may not be room for him at Omaha as the Royals have cornered the market on mediocre CF prospects.

20 Salvador Perez--C--DOB:5/10/90

How many catchers last year finished with a wRC+ over 90 (over 400 abs)and with positive UZR (I realize catching defensive stats are far from perfect)? The answer: 5. That is why Salvador Perez is a sure fired major league player--at least as sure as you can be for a 20 year old prospect. His defense is considered very good and his bat was surprisingly good last year. For a 20 year old to have a 733 OPS at Wilmington and play the toughest defensive position is quite an accomplishment. Perez was streaky at the plate last year. He was putrid at the plate in June and July, good in May and great in August. He doesn't walk much but he also doesn't strike out much. Perez's development will make the moving of Wil Myers to RF much more palatable. Perez looks like the perfect fit for the 2013 Royals--a very good defensive catcher who won't kill you batting 7th or 8th in the lineup. He will either go back to Wilmington in 2011 or get bumped up to AA.


19. Yordano Ventura--RHP--DOB:6/3/91

Ventura is a young Dominican that made a big impact in 2010. The Royals signed him as a international free agent and he wasn't yet throwing 90 MPH but he has seen his velocity jump and so has his status as a prospect. He put up good numbers in a short stint with the Royals' Dominican team and then also pitched well for the rookie Arizona League team. Baseball America ranked him as the #2 prospects in the Arizona League. Ventura has a mid-90s fastball--that was clocked at times last summer at 99MPH--and a good curve. He needs to work on his changeup He is not a big guy--stands around 5' 11"--but he's already gotten bigger since the Royals signed him and he might continue to grow a little bit. He could also continue to add velocity. The size concern and the need to work on a changeup combine to make me wonder if he might have to eventually move to the bullpen--but I'm sure he will be given every opportunity to start. It will be interesting to see if the Royals send Ventura back to short-season (perhaps Idaho Falls) or if they try to challenge him with some innings at Kane County in 2011.

18. Robinson Yambati--RHP--DOB:1/15/91

Robinson Yambati joined Ventura in the "young Dominican Royals breakout" club. Yambati was rated the #3 prospect in the Arizona League by Baseball America. Yambati also can run it up to the upper 90's with his 4 seam fastball. Keith Law reported he had very good movement on his 2 seam fastball. Yambati also throws a slider. I haven't heard any reports about his changeup. In the Arizona League last summer, he got a good amount of K's while having a minuscule walk rate. He also generated a lot of ground balls (63% according to firstinning.com). Keith Law labeled him a future reliever--not exactly sure why--I hope he gets every opportunity to remain a starter. Yambati is a tall (6'4"), skinny kid who should be able to handle the innings. You could flip Ventura and Yambati in the rankings--they are really close. But I like Yambati's size/projection a little bit better. Like Ventura, he could go to short-season of Kane County in 2011.

17. Tim Melville--RHP--DOB:10/9/89

Melville was given a record signing bonus after the Royals took him in the 4th Round of the 2008 draft. He had entered his senior season as Baseball America's #1 rated HS player (just like Bubba Starling) but had a tough senior season. He was decent in 2009 but 2010 started off as a disaster. He was one of the few Royals' prospects to disappoint last year. He pitched a little better as the season went on but his K rate continued to be low and he continued to give up way too many walks. He ended with a 4.56 FIP which looks even worse when you consider he played half his games at Wilmington. However, at Instructional League during September/October, the Royals sped up his delivery which apparently turned Melville into a new pitcher. He was called the most improved player in camp by Scott Sharp. The proof will be what he pitches like in 2011. When he's going good, Melville got a low to mid 90s fastball with good movement and an above average curveball. He needs to up the K rate and reduce the walks. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go back to Wilmington to try and build some confidence in 2011.

16. Jeremy Jeffress--RHP--DOB:9/21/87

Jeffress, as I'm sure you are aware, came over in the Greinke deal. Most everyone knows two things about Jeffress: 1. he throws hard and 2. he like pot. Jeffress was a 1st Round pick in 2006 out of HS. He's got a legitimate 100 MPH fastball and a very good curveball. He also generates a ton of ground balls--which is a big plus. Of course, the question has been and will be control. Jeffress also pitched 10 IP with the big league Milwaukee club last year allowing 8 hits with 8 K and 6 BB. His control looked a little better during the year but he then pitched in the Arizona Fall League. There he pitched 11 2/3 IP with 9 hits, 8 runs (4 earned) 12 BB and 14K. Jeffress had been a starter up until last year when the Brewers moved him to the pen. I'm still a little curious what he can do in a starters role but it sounds like the Royals will keep him as a reliever. It's hard for me to rank any reliever very high on the rankings. Jeffress could certainly be a top notch closer if he ever figures it out. He will probably start 2011 at Omaha but he could get the call the big leagues soon if he shows any hint that he has figured out how to control his stuff.

15: Tim Collins--LHP--DOB:8/21/89

Collins went undrafted out of HS but signed a free agent deal with the Blue Jays. He was really successful in HS but nobody gave a 5' 7" (being generous) pitcher a chance. However, since signing, he has been dominant as a lefty reliever. As you can see, he has averaged 13.3 strikeouts every 9/IP while only allowing 5.7 hits every 9/IP. He was traded twice in 2010--first in the Yunel Escobar deal to Atlanta and then from Atlanta to us in the Ankiel/Farnsworth deal. He has succeeded with a great fastball/curveball combo. From what I can tell, he also hasn't shown a big lefty/righty split. If you are looking to nitpick, his K rate dropped at AAA--perhaps a signal that more advanced hitters aren't as fooled by his stuff. But his FIP was still 2.31 and his hit rate also dropped. Collins is about as unique a prospect as there (how many undrafted FA out of HS are there on ML rosters? How many players are under 5' 7"? How many relief prospects could be ready for the big leagues at age 21?). He will compete for a bullpen spot in Spring Training.

14. David Lough--OF--DOB:1/20/86

David Lough is the Royals' forgotten prospect. He played Division II ball and was drafted in the 11th Round of the 2007 draft. A year ago, he was pretty well regarded after putting up very good numbers at A+ and AA. Lough had a brutal April to start 2010. Improved some in May and June---showing power but also not taking many walks. Then in July and August, out of the blue, he went from walking 3-4% of the time to walking about 13-14% of the time. It may have been just a fluke thing but if he can sustain part of that increase going forward, then he is a player who may not do anything great but has no holes either. Lough can play all three OF positions. He hasn't gotten as much opportunity to play CF because the Royals have preferred more prototypical CF types. I'm not sure what his future with the Royals is. He's certainly not flashy but he could be a solid player--with average offense and above average defense in LF. He probably could use some more time in AAA while he waits to see if a spot opens up in the Royals outfield in 2011. Although I have this feeling like the Royals will throw Lough into some deal and we'll watch him put up 2-3 WAR a year for the league minimum for someone else.

13. Johnny Giavotella--DOB:7/10/87

I'm sure Johnny Giavotella was excited when the Royals picked up Tim Collins--Johnny G. won't look short in the team picture if he stands next to Collins. Giavotella is only 5' 8" and has constantly overachieved from what people said he could do. Giavotella seemed like the anti-Dayton pick when the Royals took him in the 2nd Round of the 2008 draft out of the U. of New Orleans. Giavotella wasn't toolsy but perhaps being scrappy and gritty helped him out. Giavotella's bat has always been his calling card. He walks about as much as he strikes out and has a compact stroke that produces a ton of line drives and surprising power. Last year he was up and down at AA until the 2nd half of the year--with an OPS near 1.000 after the All-Star break. He continued to hit in the Arizona Fall League with a 950 OPS. The question has always been his defense at 2B. I heard he improved on D in 2010 and Giavotella keeps working to get better on defense. Giavotella's future is complicated by the impending move of Christian Colon to 2B. Both players could be useful but we'll have to see how the Royals play this. Giavotella will be the 2B at Omaha in 2011.

[alnorth]

A lot of that 13-25 list would appear in the middle and back of many teams' top-10.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Found this about the Royals Farm System:

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/...ystem-rankings

Sweet Farm System Champions.. We need to put the banner up at the K..

[KChiefs1]

Saw this & it makes you realize just how young Billy Butler is....

Kansas City Royals: Top 10 Players Under Age 26 (as of 4/1/11)

1. Billy Butler / DH
2. Mike Moustakas / 3B
3. Eric Hosmer / 1B
4. Mike Montgomery / SP
5. Wil Myers /OF
6. Daniel Duffy / SP
7. John Lamb / SP
8. Jake Odorizzi / SP
8. Christian Colon / 2B
10. Chris Dwyer / SP

[tk13]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Saw this & it makes you realize just how young Billy Butler is....

That's why I've always defended him when people around baseball criticize him for not having developed power yet. Sure it's possible he never does... but it's also possible he doesn't start doing his best work for another 2-3 years.

[TEX]

Man - this thread reminds me that we have to endure baseball season before its time for football again. Depressing.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by tk13

That's why I've always defended him when people around baseball criticize him for not having developed power yet. Sure it's possible he never does... but it's also possible he doesn't start doing his best work for another 2-3 years.

He's a natural and pure hitter, but Billlaaayy's fat ass needs to find a weight room. I'm not confident he puts in the necessary work on this facet of his game.

[KChiefs1]

We won't see the best of Billy Butler untill he is surrounded by other great hitters...Moose & Hoss will definitely help him.

[jbwm89]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Dear Dayton:

Please move Myers to RF immediately. I understand the desire to have an elite catcher, but Myers' bat is supposed to be so good that it's important for us to try to protect him and preserve his body for a long, productive (ass kicking) career.

In closing, let's progress from the bullshit of the Billy Butler minor league years, when we had that big-bodied player trying to play LF. I'm sure you realize how ****ing stupid that sounds, and it, supposedly, looked even worse. Do the right thing with Myers.

Love,
DeezNutz

Dear Dayton,

Don't trade Soria no matter how good of a deal you get. This isn't even my personal opinion but I cannot handle my friends bitching about how we trade all of our good players away, plus he is the man.

Also, not trying to nitpick but, how many "projects as a solid 4th outfielder" do you need in a system?

Yours truly

P.S. Sorry Mike Jacobs didn't work out for you and Leo Nunez turned out to be so good, you can't win em all.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

We won't see the best of Billy Butler untill he is surrounded by other great hitters...Moose & Hoss will definitely help him.

???

Billy ****ing Cassel?

Protection helps every hitter, but the elite don't need it to be...well...elite. You could put Pujols on the '07 Royals and he'd own.

[jbwm89]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

We won't see the best of Billy Butler untill he is surrounded by other great hitters...Moose & Hoss will definitely help him.

I've heard this a lot and I couldn't agree more. It is a lot easier to gear up and give one 1/9 your best stuff than having to deal with 3 or 4 dangerous guys.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by jbwm89

P.S. Sorry Mike Jacobs didn't work out for you and Leo Nunez turned out to be so good, you can't win em all.

Win 'em all? Has he won any of them?

[jbwm89]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

???

Billy ****ing Cassel?

Protections helps every hitter, but the elite don't need it to be...well...elite. You could put Pujols on the '07 Royals and he'd own.

Pujols is beyond elite. I don't think Butler will ever be anywhere close to on that level.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Win 'em all? Has he won any of them?

Greinke.