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SPchief · 04:22 PM

All Royals All The Time!

After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.

Welcome! "Grab a Brew... don't cost nuthin"...[spills beer on feet]

**DeezNutz** · 05-10-2010, 07:04 PM

Moore: "I'm confident our players will play."

Well, that's a relief.

Deberg_1990 · 05-10-2010, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Moore: "I'm confident our players will play."

Im confident you will be gone soon.

Mama Hip Rockets · 05-10-2010, 07:48 PM

Rany is so awesome.

**DeezNutz** · 05-10-2010, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Im confident you will be gone soon.

Have I been banned?

Sure-Oz · 05-10-2010, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Have I been banned?

Sure-Oz · 05-10-2010, 11:05 PM

Tonight Mike Montgomery 6ip 4h 2er 3ks with the W

Moose goes 4-5 2 runs

**petegz28** · 05-11-2010, 09:37 AM

Hillman is failing at turning the Royals around

By SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star

Trey Hillman hasn’t failed. Not yet, not final, not past tense. There is still hope.

But Hillman is failing. Right now, in Kansas City’s conversation and the present tense. Hope is fading, and school’s not even out.

The calls for Hillman’s job as Royals manager are building steam, a justifiably frustrated fan base wanting something — anything — to save what looks like another lost season.

Hillman won’t be fired as long as it’s general manager Dayton Moore’s call, but Hillman’s contract is up after the season, and right now he’d have a rough time getting another one. Play out the steps, and it’s hard to see him being in the big leagues at all next year, so his future may well depend on making last weekend’s embarrassing sweep in Texas this season’s low point.

The problems go deeper than Hillman, but he’s the easiest place for fans to start. And the case against him is becoming easier and easier to make.

This isn’t two years ago, when the Royals were transitioning with an awkward blend of old and new, and José Guillen’s $36 million contract was the clubhouse’s strongest voice.

This isn’t last year, when the Royals could overestimate the impact of injuries that turned a possible .500 team into the most disappointing season in franchise history.

This is 2010, Hillman’s third as a big-league manager, and he’s in charge of a roster that fits his tendencies and style better than either of the previous two. He likes speed and athletic ability, and the Royals finally have some.

Judging a manager’s worth is endlessly tricky. Most times, it’s probably overrated. But here, where has Hillman improved the Royals?

He arrived as a hope to improve fundamentals. Before he ever managed a game, he talked about playing good defense and finding ways to manufacture runs. People would mention that he puts a lot of focus on the little things, and he’d quickly correct them. There are no little things, he’d say.

Well, in his third season and managing his kind of roster, the Royals rank last in defense and base running. Their run production doesn’t match up to their level of hitting, let alone exceed it. These are the areas Hillman was supposed to help. At best, he’s been ineffective.

The Royals’ fundamentals so far are best illustrated by a shameful moment in Texas where the Rangers’ Josh Hamilton forgot to tag up — as if he didn’t know he had to — and no Royals player or coach noticed.

Their defense so far is best illustrated by two dropped pop-ups — one in the first inning of the first game, and another that was so sloppy the Royals actually fined Yuniesky Betancourt. Somewhere, Kerry Robinson is checking his bank account to make sure the Royals’ fines-for-failures program is new.

It’s important to keep in mind that the Royals could fire Hillman and they’d still have a broken roster. If he’s gone, someone else has to try to win in the American League with a lineup that can’t score, a defense that can’t field and a pitching staff that can’t throw strikes.

But managing in the big leagues is about wins and losses, and Hillman has lost 54 more than he’s won. He was the manager of the most disappointing team in Royals history last season, and this year’s team is on pace to lose even more. You can say that the players are responsible for that, but in the major leagues it’s the manager and general manager who are accountable.

GM Dayton Moore is taking his share of criticism, and justifiably so. The team is currently burdened by the third year of José Guillen’s contract, the second of Kyle Farnsworth’s and the decline of Gil Meche.

But Moore has other successes, and besides, he was brought in to fix the minor-league system. He deserves the opportunity to see that through, and there are positive signs now.

Hillman was brought in to help the Royals improve their fundamentals. That just hasn’t happened, and signs aren’t trending up.

Really, it puts everyone in an uncomfortable position. Hillman manages for his big-league future on limited time, Moore may have to fight to keep the manager he handpicked, and fans have 130 games left to watch a manager that a growing number of them don’t want.

Sure-Oz · 05-11-2010, 10:39 AM

I want Mellinger to stfu....

I disagree with him totally about DM seeing it through. As for hillman, no doubt he will be gone, he wont last all season.

Mr. Plow · 05-11-2010, 10:42 AM

I'm looking to take my kids to the game on 6/17 - what's the best place to get tickets?

**petegz28** · 05-11-2010, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I'm looking to take my kids to the game on 6/17 - what's the best place to get tickets?

When I purchase tickets I usually just go through the Royals.com site. I believe it uses ticketmaster.

Deberg_1990 · 05-11-2010, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I'm looking to take my kids to the game on 6/17 - what's the best place to get tickets?

By then you should be able to walk right up the box office 5 minutes before game time and get any seat you want.

Deberg_1990 · 05-11-2010, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I disagree with him totally about DM seeing it through.

Agreed....hes had plenty of time now to turn this ship around.

This team is no better now then when he came aboard.

Mr. Plow · 05-11-2010, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

By then you should be able to walk right up the box office 5 minutes before game time and get any seat you want.

I might try that. I hate that I have to buy a ticket for my 2 year old.

sedated · 05-11-2010, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Agreed....hes had plenty of time now to turn this ship around.

This team is no better now then when he came aboard.

personally, I would disagree on both points.

Deberg_1990 · 05-11-2010, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sedated

personally, I would disagree on both points.

Tell me how they are better?

Butler and Grienke were both from the previous regime.

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petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-895873	Hillman is failing at turning the Royals around By SAM MELLINGER The Kansas City Star Trey Hillman hasn’t failed. Not yet, not final, not past tense. There is still hope. But Hillman is failing. Right now, in Kansas City’s conversation and the present tense. Hope is fading, and school’s not even out. The calls for Hillman’s job as Royals manager are building steam, a justifiably frustrated fan base wanting something — anything — to save what looks like another lost season. Hillman won’t be fired as long as it’s general manager Dayton Moore’s call, but Hillman’s contract is up after the season, and right now he’d have a rough time getting another one. Play out the steps, and it’s hard to see him being in the big leagues at all next year, so his future may well depend on making last weekend’s embarrassing sweep in Texas this season’s low point. The problems go deeper than Hillman, but he’s the easiest place for fans to start. And the case against him is becoming easier and easier to make. This isn’t two years ago, when the Royals were transitioning with an awkward blend of old and new, and José Guillen’s $36 million contract was the clubhouse’s strongest voice. This isn’t last year, when the Royals could overestimate the impact of injuries that turned a possible .500 team into the most disappointing season in franchise history. This is 2010, Hillman’s third as a big-league manager, and he’s in charge of a roster that fits his tendencies and style better than either of the previous two. He likes speed and athletic ability, and the Royals finally have some. Judging a manager’s worth is endlessly tricky. Most times, it’s probably overrated. But here, where has Hillman improved the Royals? He arrived as a hope to improve fundamentals. Before he ever managed a game, he talked about playing good defense and finding ways to manufacture runs. People would mention that he puts a lot of focus on the little things, and he’d quickly correct them. There are no little things, he’d say. Well, in his third season and managing his kind of roster, the Royals rank last in defense and base running. Their run production doesn’t match up to their level of hitting, let alone exceed it. These are the areas Hillman was supposed to help. At best, he’s been ineffective. The Royals’ fundamentals so far are best illustrated by a shameful moment in Texas where the Rangers’ Josh Hamilton forgot to tag up — as if he didn’t know he had to — and no Royals player or coach noticed. Their defense so far is best illustrated by two dropped pop-ups — one in the first inning of the first game, and another that was so sloppy the Royals actually fined Yuniesky Betancourt. Somewhere, Kerry Robinson is checking his bank account to make sure the Royals’ fines-for-failures program is new. It’s important to keep in mind that the Royals could fire Hillman and they’d still have a broken roster. If he’s gone, someone else has to try to win in the American League with a lineup that can’t score, a defense that can’t field and a pitching staff that can’t throw strikes. But managing in the big leagues is about wins and losses, and Hillman has lost 54 more than he’s won. He was the manager of the most disappointing team in Royals history last season, and this year’s team is on pace to lose even more. You can say that the players are responsible for that, but in the major leagues it’s the manager and general manager who are accountable. GM Dayton Moore is taking his share of criticism, and justifiably so. The team is currently burdened by the third year of José Guillen’s contract, the second of Kyle Farnsworth’s and the decline of Gil Meche. But Moore has other successes, and besides, he was brought in to fix the minor-league system. He deserves the opportunity to see that through, and there are positive signs now. Hillman was brought in to help the Royals improve their fundamentals. That just hasn’t happened, and signs aren’t trending up. Really, it puts everyone in an uncomfortable position. Hillman manages for his big-league future on limited time, Moore may have to fight to keep the manager he handpicked, and fans have 130 games left to watch a manager that a growing number of them don’t want.
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