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SPchief · 04:22 PM

All Royals All The Time!

After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.

Welcome! "Grab a Brew... don't cost nuthin"...[spills beer on feet]

**DeezNutz** · 07-06-2010, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman

Is that '82 hiding behind that hand?

Are we going to post RBI numbers? Discuss Kendall's ability to "call a game?" The importance of the stolen base?

Mama Hip Rockets · 07-06-2010, 05:43 PM

I was just using the obviously great statistic (.329 average) to show that DeJesus is having a great year. Other stats for the reerun who thinks he would be a 4th outfielder on a good team:

.396 OBP
22 doubles
0 errors for 200+ games

There's more to baseball than home runs.

Mama Hip Rockets · 07-06-2010, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Is that '82 hiding behind that hand?

Are we going to post RBI numbers? Discuss Kendall's ability to "call a game?" The importance of the stolen base?

What are you talking about?

**DeezNutz** · 07-06-2010, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman

I was just using the obviously great statistic (.329 average) to show that DeJesus is having a great year. Other stats for the reerun who thinks he would be a 4th outfielder on a good team:

.396 OBP
22 doubles
0 errors for 200+ games

There's more to baseball than home runs.

I think most have acknowledged that he's a solid ML player, but he's someone who lacks a true position, similar to half of our current roster. His bat doesn't player in the corners, and his glove doesn't play in CF.

His value is at its highest, so I'd earnestly listen to offers. Don't give him away, but move him if you can.

jbwm89 · 07-06-2010, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think most have acknowledged that he's a solid ML player, but he's someone who lacks a true position, similar to half of our current roster. His bat doesn't player in the corners, and his glove doesn't play in CF.

His value is at its highest, so I'd earnestly listen to offers. Don't give him away, but move him if you can.

His bat may not play in the corners for a boston or a new york, but on almost every team this year he is at the very least their third best outfielder.

**DeezNutz** · 07-06-2010, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbwm89

His bat may not play in the corners for a boston or a new york, but on almost every team this year he is at the very least their third best outfielder.

This year. His career year--a 3rd outfielder.

Now what's that worth at the deadline and what's his relative worth to a team like the Royals that lacks a high number of even average ML players?

kstater · 07-06-2010, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbwm89

His bat may not play in the corners for a boston or a new york, but on almost every team this year he is at the very least their third best outfielder.

What about all his other years? Were they the anomaly or is this year it?

Sure-Oz · 07-06-2010, 06:10 PM

I hope they shop him and ask alot, DDJ value wont be any higher

**Saul Good** · 07-06-2010, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This year. His career year--a 3rd outfielder.

Now what's that worth at the deadline and what's his relative worth to a team like the Royals that lacks a high number of even average ML players?

I kind of like his value to the team for 2 years and then draft compensation when he leaves as a free agent.

**Saul Good** · 07-06-2010, 06:47 PM

I'd be curious to see how many teams have 2 outfielders with an OBP of .400+ with 50+ extra base hits. If that number is in double digits, I'd concede that he's a third outfielder on a good team.

I've got a feeling that this is more like the time that Mecca (IIRC) claimed that, in order to contend, you needed to have both of your outfielders be .300/30/100 guys. As a little digging revealed, there wasn't a single player in the league that met that criteria that year.

BWillie · 07-06-2010, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I'd be curious to see how many teams have 2 outfielders with an OBP of .400+ with 50+ extra base hits. If that number is in double digits, I'd concede that he's a third outfielder on a good team.

I've got a feeling that this is more like the time that Mecca (IIRC) claimed that, in order to contend, you needed to have both of your outfielders be .300/30/100 guys. As a little digging revealed, there wasn't a single player in the league that met that criteria that year.

Has Mecca had a brain aneurysm or something from USC's future lack of post season bowls? I haven't seen him lately

Mama Hip Rockets · 07-06-2010, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think most have acknowledged that he's a solid ML player, but he's someone who lacks a true position, similar to half of our current roster. His bat doesn't player in the corners, and his glove doesn't play in CF.

His value is at its highest, so I'd earnestly listen to offers. Don't give him away, but move him if you can.

Since he can play all three positions very well, that means he lacks a true position?

I don't know why people can't just appreciate the great season he's having.

**Saul Good** · 07-06-2010, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman

Since he can play all three positions very well, that means he lacks a true position?

I don't know why people can't just appreciate the great season he's having.

Exactly. If you had 9 guys with DDJ's numbers, you'd have the best lineup in baseball by a mile.

KevB · 07-06-2010, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman

Since he can play all three positions very well, that means he lacks a true position?

I don't know why people can't just appreciate the great season he's having.

Agreed. People are going overboard with their analysis and longing to be the next writer for Baseball Prospectus (a publication I love and have purchased for several years now BTW). Don't get me wrong, I love the educated approach to looking at the makeup of a baseball team. But....sometimes a guy is just a solid ballplayer, and you need a handful of those guys. DeJesus fits that mold.

jbwm89 · 07-06-2010, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This year. His career year--a 3rd outfielder.

Now what's that worth at the deadline and what's his relative worth to a team like the Royals that lacks a high number of even average ML players?

Not to disagree with your point that we should only move him for very very good compensation but I said at the very least he is their best third outfielder. I don't want to do the legwork but I am going to assume he is statistically when you consider his defense and everything else one of the best OF's on a good number of teams and second best on a majority.

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Mama Hip Rockets You don't faze me, Gobble. Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $9915644	I was just using the obviously great statistic (.329 average) to show that DeJesus is having a great year. Other stats for the reerun who thinks he would be a 4th outfielder on a good team: .396 OBP 22 doubles 0 errors for 200+ games There's more to baseball than home runs.
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	I'd be curious to see how many teams have 2 outfielders with an OBP of .400+ with 50+ extra base hits. If that number is in double digits, I'd concede that he's a third outfielder on a good team. I've got a feeling that this is more like the time that Mecca (IIRC) claimed that, in order to contend, you needed to have both of your outfielders be .300/30/100 guys. As a little digging revealed, there wasn't a single player in the league that met that criteria that year. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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