KSU Coach Martin Hits KSU Player. Is this an issue?

|Zach| · 01-09-2010, 04:40 PM

Not trying to sling shit. I honestly don't know if something will be made of this. With all the player\coach crap that has been coming up in the Big 12. Video below...

Thoughts?

**DeezNutz** · 01-09-2010, 04:42 PM

If this becomes an issue, the pussification of this country is complete.

58kcfan89 · 01-09-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Deni Clemente noogied Injun Joe MorningsTard last season harder than that. If it's an issue, I expect Craig James to call the new university president.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If this becomes an issue, the pussification of this country is complete.

These. If he had hit him in the face or shoved him, maybe, but if this is a big problem, I'm gunna be pissed.

**jAZ** · 01-09-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If this becomes an issue, the pussification of this country is complete.

It's a product of a for-profit media that looks to generate ratings by generating controversy where none naturally exists.

Reerun_KC · 01-09-2010, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

It's a product of a for-profit media that looks to generate ratings by generating controversy where none naturally exists.

Disagree to a point...

Physical abuse isnt acceptable... Regardless of the media...

**jAZ** · 01-09-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Disagree to a point...

Physical abuse isnt acceptable... Regardless of the media...

I agree, but poking a guy in the chest and then low-fiving him wouldn't qualify as "physical abuse" in the least. But it could easily be a media-generated 'controversy' that might drive ratings for a few days. That would be pretty common and pretty unacceptable IMO.

WilliamTheIrish · 01-09-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

I agree, but poking a guy in the chest and then low-fiving him wouldn't qualify as "physical abuse" in the least. But it could easily be a media-generated 'controversy' that might drive ratings for a few days. That would be pretty common and pretty unacceptable IMO.

I don't think Zach was trying to create controversy. But I do agree completely about the "creating controversy to generate ratings" issue.

irishjayhawk · 01-09-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If this becomes an issue, the pussification of this country is complete.

I considered it complete when the radio edited out a sound effect (the gun shots) in MIA's Paper Planes.

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-10-2010, 08:50 AM

K-State coach apologizes for contact

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4811927

COLUMBIA, Mo. -- Kansas State's Frank Martin is a fiery old-school screamer who expects his players to play with the same kind of passion he coaches with.

That passion got the better of Martin on Saturday -- and he feels bad about it.

“
I'm an old-school guy, but I understand the times are real sensitive now. I love him. I don't know what to tell you. It's wrong on my part and is completely out of line and has no part in the game. I need to apologize for that.
”
-- Kansas State coach Frank Martin
Caught up in the heat of a tight road game, Martin hit senior Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand late in a 74-68 loss to Missouri for Kansas State (No. 10 ESPN/USA Today, No. 11 AP). Martin wasted little time in apologizing, telling reporters he was wrong before taking questions during his postgame news conference.

"That's a mistake on my part," Martin said. "I'm an old-school guy, but I understand the times are real sensitive now. I love him. I don't know what to tell you. It's wrong on my part and is completely out of line and has no part in the game. I need to apologize for that."

Martin's swipe came during a timeout with 1:17 left after a turnover by Merriewether led to a foul at the other end.

Before Marcus Denmon hit one of two free throws to put Missouri up 66-63, Martin called timeout and gathered his team in front of the bench. He immediately started screaming at Merriewether and flicked the back of his hand at the senior, striking him on the arm with his fingers.

The crowd at Kansas State's end of the floor reacted and Martin, realizing he had made a mistake, flipped his hand again, appearing as if he were trying to high-five Merriewether.

Martin sought out Merriewether in the locker room after the game and apologized for popping him.

"It was just in the heat of the moment; big game, lot of heated plays going on," Merriewether said. "I mean, he hit me in the arm, it was nothing serious. [Teammate] Jacob Pullen came back right after and he hit me in the arm, too. It really wasn't too much. I trust Frank and Frank trusts me and it was just a heat of the moment-type deal. It's not a big deal at all."

It may not be a big deal to Merriewether, but Martin's swipe is sure to get some attention at a time when coaches are being punished for abusing players.

Kansas football coach Mark Mangino resigned last month amid allegations that he mistreated his players. Texas Tech football coach Mike Leach was fired in December after he was accused of forcing an injured player to stand in a dark shed. South Florida fired football coach Jim Leavitt on Friday, saying he grabbed a player by the throat, slapped him in the face and lied about it.

Pullen didn't believe Martin's moment was in the same category.

"I think people really looked at that wrong," Pullen said. "I don't think Frank really hit him like you would hit somebody if you wanted to fight them. He hit him as like 'Let's go.' Frank is an enthused person, he's emotional on the sidelines and that's why I think everybody came here to play for him, because we knew we had an emotional coach who would get out there just like we do."

Martin has never been accused of inappropriate behavior with his players and Kansas State athletic director John Currie didn't seem overly concerned after meeting with him and Merriewether following the team's return to Manhattan on Saturday night.

"Coach Martin clearly understands his contact with Chris at the end of the game was unacceptable, regardless of the emotion of the moment," Currie said in a statement. "I am proud of coach Martin for immediately apologizing and I expect that there will be no further such incidents."

**Buehler445** · 01-09-2010, 04:47 PM

Did he even make contact?

|Zach| · 01-09-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Did he even make contact?

Yes. Obviously.

**Buehler445** · 01-09-2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Yes. Obviously.

Sorry, I missed it. I didn't ever see Martin's hand touch the kid. I saw him take a step back like there was impact, but I couldn't be sure. I then saw Martin swing an open hand, but it didn't look like he was hitting the guy. Sorry, I missed the obvious part.

|Zach| · 01-09-2010, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Sorry, I missed it. I didn't ever see Martin's hand touch the kid. I saw him take a step back like there was impact, but I couldn't be sure. I then saw Martin swing an open hand, but it didn't look like he was hitting the guy. Sorry, I missed the obvious part.

:03

**Buehler445** · 01-09-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

:03

Ah. Thanks.

**Buehler445** · 01-09-2010, 04:49 PM

I remember Bobby Knight tapped the underside of a kid's jaw to get him to look at him and ESPN freaked the ever living **** out. It may become an issue, but as Deez Nutz alluded to, it would be ridiculous.

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01-10-2010, 08:50 AM	#9
Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $-19474	K-State coach apologizes for contact http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4811927 COLUMBIA, Mo. -- Kansas State's Frank Martin is a fiery old-school screamer who expects his players to play with the same kind of passion he coaches with. That passion got the better of Martin on Saturday -- and he feels bad about it. “ I'm an old-school guy, but I understand the times are real sensitive now. I love him. I don't know what to tell you. It's wrong on my part and is completely out of line and has no part in the game. I need to apologize for that. ” -- Kansas State coach Frank Martin Caught up in the heat of a tight road game, Martin hit senior Chris Merriewether on the arm with the back of his hand late in a 74-68 loss to Missouri for Kansas State (No. 10 ESPN/USA Today, No. 11 AP). Martin wasted little time in apologizing, telling reporters he was wrong before taking questions during his postgame news conference. "That's a mistake on my part," Martin said. "I'm an old-school guy, but I understand the times are real sensitive now. I love him. I don't know what to tell you. It's wrong on my part and is completely out of line and has no part in the game. I need to apologize for that." Martin's swipe came during a timeout with 1:17 left after a turnover by Merriewether led to a foul at the other end. Before Marcus Denmon hit one of two free throws to put Missouri up 66-63, Martin called timeout and gathered his team in front of the bench. He immediately started screaming at Merriewether and flicked the back of his hand at the senior, striking him on the arm with his fingers. The crowd at Kansas State's end of the floor reacted and Martin, realizing he had made a mistake, flipped his hand again, appearing as if he were trying to high-five Merriewether. Martin sought out Merriewether in the locker room after the game and apologized for popping him. "It was just in the heat of the moment; big game, lot of heated plays going on," Merriewether said. "I mean, he hit me in the arm, it was nothing serious. [Teammate] Jacob Pullen came back right after and he hit me in the arm, too. It really wasn't too much. I trust Frank and Frank trusts me and it was just a heat of the moment-type deal. It's not a big deal at all." It may not be a big deal to Merriewether, but Martin's swipe is sure to get some attention at a time when coaches are being punished for abusing players. Kansas football coach Mark Mangino resigned last month amid allegations that he mistreated his players. Texas Tech football coach Mike Leach was fired in December after he was accused of forcing an injured player to stand in a dark shed. South Florida fired football coach Jim Leavitt on Friday, saying he grabbed a player by the throat, slapped him in the face and lied about it. Pullen didn't believe Martin's moment was in the same category. "I think people really looked at that wrong," Pullen said. "I don't think Frank really hit him like you would hit somebody if you wanted to fight them. He hit him as like 'Let's go.' Frank is an enthused person, he's emotional on the sidelines and that's why I think everybody came here to play for him, because we knew we had an emotional coach who would get out there just like we do." Martin has never been accused of inappropriate behavior with his players and Kansas State athletic director John Currie didn't seem overly concerned after meeting with him and Merriewether following the team's return to Manhattan on Saturday night. "Coach Martin clearly understands his contact with Chris at the end of the game was unacceptable, regardless of the emotion of the moment," Currie said in a statement. "I am proud of coach Martin for immediately apologizing and I expect that there will be no further such incidents." __________________ Adopt-A-Chief: John Dorsey
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01-09-2010, 04:47 PM	#10
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1405266	Did he even make contact?
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01-09-2010, 04:49 PM	#15
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1405266	I remember Bobby Knight tapped the underside of a kid's jaw to get him to look at him and ESPN freaked the ever living **** out. It may become an issue, but as Deez Nutz alluded to, it would be ridiculous.
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